Some Liberals will do ANYTHING to bash Christians.

[Texmaster]

<< christian club? I guess I know it by its more common name....church.

i'm a christian, i don't think that religious clubs should be affiliated with public schools, you know, the whole seperation of church and state? >>



#1 They are getting no money from the school
#2 Its called Freedom of Assembly
#3 Did you think the judges dismissed the school's claims because it was fun?

 

[Texmaster]

<< Yeah, I'd say the school board is way off base in screwing all the other kids out of their extracurriculars. Personally, I don't condone the idea of a christian club either (separation of church and state IMO), provided it is a public school. But I also don't condone the idea that all the other kids, who have common interests not related to curriculum, lose their ability to meet (convieniently provided by the sate) and share their ideas with an each other and an advisor. The greatest thing about extracurriculars is that it's productive, atleast 99.9% is, and it helps keeps some kids of out trouble, instead redirecting their energy into something positive.

This also kills the resume' builders that these clubs provide for graduating students trying to get into good colleges. Does it also mean that there'll be no sports, for them? 'Cause they sure aren't related to curriculum.

Hey, I'm a liberal and like I said, IMO a religious club doesn't have a place in a public school because there are places for that already (church) and IMO it's not allowed by separation of church and state. But, if a judge is going to rule that it does have a legal right to be there, then the school board should grab their nuts and bite their lips, and just let them in. I say make exceptions, or sacrifices (whatever you will) for the other kids getting boned out of this deal.

Just my $0.02

-Cheers >>



You make a great point. It would be like that school in Illinios that was banned from praying before graduation because of ONE (yes one) girl who found it &quot;offensive&quot; which in itself is rediculus had banned graduation all together and made everyone suffer.

This is clearly devised by the liberal wakos in the school community to shift the blame to the christians. And the best evidence is the quote:

&quot;one board member told the school newspaper, &quot;Blame the Christians&quot;&quot;

 

[Texmaster]

<< Liberals??

I would guess (and correctly so) that there are FAR more conservative religious people that bash Christians then there are liberals that do.

Far more. >>



LOL really!

Got any kind of proof to back that up or are you just ranting?

 

[zippy]

<< I just think its hysterical how far people will take things to decriminate against another group. >>


Right, it's all liberals right Texmaster? Yeah, it's every last one of them, right? Okay, just checking.

 

[Hamburgerpimp]

I don't discriminate against Christians, I hate all Religions.

 

[Texmaster]

<< What makes the church groups think that they can get away with indoctrination in our public schools? They have all of society to go out and minister to the people; give our kids a break already! >>



OH PLEASE! Do you want to decriminate against religious groups from forming or do you just have something against Christians?

This is NOT a school funded activity. Get that through your head. Its a question of freedom of assembly.



<< There is a wonderful place to learn all about god, it is called a CHURCH. My kids attend services twice a week; they do not need to go to a &quot;club&quot; after school to reinforce their faith. >>



Perhaps yours dont but are you so willing to deny the rights of others based on your own beliefs? Thats what you are proposing right now. Your are proposing DESCRIMINATION beause you dont like where these people want to share their beliefs. That is extremely dangerous.



<< If I were a satanist (which, for the record, I am not--those people are even more foolish than theists, IMO), would your church allow me to rent a room and hold services? Do you think your school should allow me to hold services? >>



LOL Thats COMPLETELY different.

ANY group before this childish ban could form of any religion so that point is mute.

You keep confusing the freedom of assembly without school sponsorship of clubs to those with school sponsorship. Its a Huge difference.

As far as churches outside the school, the land is theirs its not public land. Its Different from public school where everyone attends and everyone pays taxes to. If the churches received taxes from everyone then you would have a valid point but since they dont, you dont.

 

[Texmaster]

<< hum... and we all know that fox news is truly non-biased towards conservatives, right?

</sarcasm> :disgust: >>



We have one channel biased towards us you have the rest of the national media minus some radio. I think you come out on top there.

Now do you have anything to counter the report or are you just spounting your own blinded bias?

 

[Texmaster]

<<

<< I just think its hysterical how far people will take things to decriminate against another group. >>


Right, it's all liberals right Texmaster? Yeah, it's every last one of them, right? Okay, just checking. >>




Brain wave, READ MORE CAREFULLY like the title?

Some Liberals will do ANYTHING to bash Christians.

Save yourself some embarassment next time.

 

[narzy]

<< Some Liberals will do ANYTHING to bash Christians. >>

Some Christians will do ANYTHING to bash Liberals to just another side of the fence.

 

[67gt500]

WordSmith did you even read the article?

What makes the church groups think that they can get away with indoctrination in our public schools? They have all of society to go out and minister to the people; give our kids a break already!


A group of students wanted to form a christian club like any other after school organization.

There is a wonderful place to learn all about god, it is called a CHURCH.

And there are wonderful places to do charity work... but that doesn't mean we bar students from having charity organizations to simply send a message that all or none will be allowed.

My kids attend services twice a week; they do not need to go to a &quot;club&quot; after school to reinforce their faith.

Once again you have brought truth to the liberal stereotypes. NOWHERE does it say anything about a requirement to attend clubs. These are choices that students are making. This is a club that students attempted to form.

What message are we sending to children by saying 'no i'm sorry we aren't going to allow you to start your christian club and just to show you how vehemently we despise christianity we will bar all other clubs from existing because ALL is certainly not better than none.'

This is just the liberal wheel of lotion at its finest. You talk about values being reamed down people's throat.. but then if the issue is sex education or AIDS awareness or homosexual inclusion in sex education you have no qualms.

The difference here is that students are forming the organizations and discussing these issues with one another. We aren't talking about an out of control teacher talking about 'fisting' during a sex ed class. These are children discussing healthy things they have in common with one another...

The only way you can derive bad from a christian student sponsored club is if you despise christianity.

 

[67gt500]

We have one channel biased towards us you have the rest of the national media minus some radio. I think you come out on top there.

Now do you have anything to counter the report or are you just spounting your own blinded bias?

The beauty of fox is that the man who made the channel what it now is (oreilly) cannot be labeled as a hard right conservative or a hard left liberal.

He has policies which I both agree and disagree with. He has policies which the feminists in my family both agree and disagree with.

The man is a genius. He's the model moderate in this country.

I will take my oreilly over larry king, or geraldo libera anyday of the week.

 

[zippy]

Texmaster, that's funny, I don't feel embarassed. Btw, I am obviously not the only one who thinks you are implying all liberals, so that word &quot;some&quot; that is stuck in your post means...ohhh...about jack sh!t.

Btw, you seem to harp on liberals &quot;discriminating&quot; against Christians...what are you doing right now? Oh, the opposite, a Christian discriminating against Liberals.

I really don't like hypocrites...

Oh, just as a side note, I don't give a sh!t whether Christians are Christians, Conservatives are Conservatives, Liberals are Liberals or anything- I just hate it when people try and prove a point but in the process do the exact same thing they claim the other party is doing! Basically, I don't like hypocrites, regardless of affiliation.

 

[GammaRayX]

<< A couple of years ago we had a charter petition for a homosexual club to meet. Now, obviously, that is not related to our curriculum. And we denied it. >>



It appears that this school board also denied a homosexual club. Along with denying a Christian club.

And wasn't there another school district that allowed a homosexual-straight alliance (basically a homosexual club), and a bunch of christian got up and arms and forced the school district to bar all clubs just to prevent the gay club from forming. The way I see it, now the christians are on the other end of the stick.