Some disturbing info from my Dev. Pscyhology teacher..

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Pastore

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Beast1284
A lot more boys experiment than you think. Whether it's true or not I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. From people I have known, the experiences are usually in the 14-16 years of age range, and usually by that time it's out of the guys system and they just want some poontang, not pooptang.

I never experimented when I was a kid, and I can almost gurantee you that ALL of my friends are completely 100% straight. Heck, alot of them HATE homosexuals. Or are just scared of them.

You think your friends would go around telling people what they did? I gaurantee you, that half of your friends did it when they were younger. And yes, I have done studies on this. Most teen same sex experiences start with mutual masturbation, then lead onto other things. And the occurences are MUCH higher in men than women.
 

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Originally posted by: yellowperil
Hmm, it seems plausible given the prison analogy. Then again the prison population is a skewed section of the general population, so that may factor into it. Given how much we still don't know about genetics/environment, it seems foolish to claim you *know* based on personal observation.

She didnt claim to know from personal observation, apparently it was a scientific study. Not made by her of course. A study that was accepted as true by the majority of the psychologists and scientists.

 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: BDawg
You can't be a bible beater and accept psychology.

Another good point, because most basic psychological theories go againt all principles of religion.
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Beast1284
A lot more boys experiment than you think. Whether it's true or not I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. From people I have known, the experiences are usually in the 14-16 years of age range, and usually by that time it's out of the guys system and they just want some poontang, not pooptang.

I never experimented when I was a kid, and I can almost gurantee you that ALL of my friends are completely 100% straight. Heck, alot of them HATE homosexuals. Or are just scared of them.

You think your friends would go around telling people what they did? I gaurantee you, that half of your friends did it when they were younger. And yes, I have done studies on this. Most teen same sex experiences start with mutual masturbation, then lead onto other things. And the occurences are MUCH higher in men than women.


Wow, very very hard to believe. What studies have you done. Please do share Im very curious.
 

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Beast1284
A lot more boys experiment than you think. Whether it's true or not I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. From people I have known, the experiences are usually in the 14-16 years of age range, and usually by that time it's out of the guys system and they just want some poontang, not pooptang.

I never experimented when I was a kid, and I can almost gurantee you that ALL of my friends are completely 100% straight. Heck, alot of them HATE homosexuals. Or are just scared of them.

Hate is not the opposite of Love, indifference is. Hate is actually nest door neighbors with Love.
 

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I'm so sure people CHOOSE to be homosexual, you know, it makes their life so easy and full of joy, being the target of countless jokes, discrimination, and harassment.
 

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The first reason is because it goes against my religion, christianity. Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible, so why would God make something natural a sin? Just doesn't fit.

Your religion is flawed.
 

Pastore

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I don't have any information on the subject on hand as it was a year ago I did the paper for a course I took in community college. We weren't allowed to use internet sources so I don't have any links either. But go to a collegiate library and get on their database and search for "Teen male homosexual experimentation" I'm pretty sure that's what I found some of the texts under. Some were psychological journals, and a couple psychotherapy journals.
 

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The first reason is because it goes against my religion, christianity. Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible, so why would God make something natural a sin? Just doesn't fit.
because there is no god. the rest should fall into place now.
 

Pastore

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Already posted most of it. Male teens between the ages of 14-16 are most likely to engage in mutual masturbation, which usually led to other sexual acts. There were a ton of statistics that went along with it. Something like 95% of the incidence were introduced through porno. The only other stat I remember was that 46% of all males studied had some sort of same sex experience before the age of 17. Keep in mind that these were psycholigical and psychotherapy journals, not some fly by night agency trying to make the news.
 

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The first reason is because it goes against my religion, christianity. Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible, so why would God make something natural a sin? Just doesn't fit.

You know.. a lot of things just don't fit with Christianity in the world today. Is the world really just 6000 years old and not 4.5 billion years old? Evolution? People used to live to be 900+ years old, but not anymore? Homosexuality is just another thing that doesn't fit.



to me.. all the things that don't fit with Christianity is more proof that over 30% of the world's population is delusional. (and if you'd like to throw in Muslims and Jews that'd be fine too, except that Jews I find are less anti-science than Christians and Muslims)
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
So Im in class the other day, just sitting around minding my own buisness and all of a sudden my teacher starts talking about homosexuals. So this catches my attention ( I like controversy) she rambles on and on for a few minutes then says something along the lines of " 80% of males are partially heterosexual and homosexual, only 6% are completely homosexual and only 10% completely heterosexual" She then went on to explain that when in certain situations, ones that seem to put many males together without a female that the men would become homosexual.


This disturbs me, and I dont find it to be true.

The first reason is because it goes against my religion, christianity. Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible, so why would God make something natural a sin? Just doesn't fit.


So has anyone else ever heard of anything like this? Anyone know if there are any truths in this?


Just because this "teacher" says something, doesn't make it true. 150 years ago, germs didn't exist in science texts. Psychobabble.
 

Ryan

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"Straight society is often somewhat mystified by the specific sexual activities that gays engage in. Current thinking in psychology is that perhaps as much as one-third of the adult male population has, at one time or another, engaged in some form of same-sex activity leading to orgasm. It's not uncommon, according to psychologists, for boys only recently past puberty to engage in mutual masturbation, or "jerk-off" sessions, with their male friends. Psychologists attach little significance to this sort of same-sex activity in terms of its implications for sexual preference. Psychologists refer to such activity as "incidental homosexuality, and do not necessarily believe that simply because young person, or even an adult man, irregularly engages in such activity that the man is gay.

Some men appear to attach no more significance to the activity than, say, going out for beer and a pizza, and simply treat it as an enjoyable way to spend an evening. I've visited with married men who occasionally "go out with the boys" to engage in mutual masturbation. These men claim to very much enjoy sex with their wives as well, have no intentions of leaving their wives, and simply regard the jerk-off sessions as a different and interesting sexual activity. In the instances I am aware of, the wives are unaware of what goes on when the husband has a night out with the boys. Another common activity is watching erotic videotapes while engaging in mutual masturbation by male friends."


http://www.sexuality.org/l/sex/dsmansex.html
 

Kenazo

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The occurence of homosexual behaviour within prisons has already been noted, I would also add the residential schools, Catholic schools, and the old British schools...all of which were not co-ed. It seems that an all-male environment fosters some type of incidental homosexuality...whether this means a person is gay is another discussion (does lack of homosexual intercourse/behaviour negate homosexuality?).
 

blackhawk

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There's a big difference between a homosexual act and a homosexual. The act doesn't create the lifestyle. Sexuality isn't as black and white as we'd like to think.

I think its important to separate the two things. Homosexuals are born.
 

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the first reason is because it goes against my religion, christianity. Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible, so why would God make something natural a sin? Just doesn't fit.

well u said u like controversy, maybe the bible is wrong
 

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
So Im in class the other day, just sitting around minding my own buisness and all of a sudden my teacher starts talking about homosexuals. So this catches my attention ( I like controversy) she rambles on and on for a few minutes then says something along the lines of " 80% of males are partially heterosexual and homosexual, only 6% are completely homosexual and only 10% completely heterosexual" She then went on to explain that when in certain situations, ones that seem to put many males together without a female that the men would become homosexual.


This disturbs me, and I dont find it to be true.

The first reason is because it goes against my religion, christianity. Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible, so why would God make something natural a sin? Just doesn't fit.


So has anyone else ever heard of anything like this? Anyone know if there are any truths in this?

I believe there is a lot of truth in what she said. BTW, I believe I fall into the 10% of completely heterosexual. I believe a lot of guys are partially or potentially homosexual. Here's why:

1) Guys who believe that homosexuality is entirely a choice are probably partially homesexual. It's just incomprehensible for me to think about having sex with another male. I've always been attracted to girls -- I remember having crushes on girls since kindergarden. Why do these guys think it's a choice? Do they have some homoerotic feelings that they choose not to pursue? I don't and that's why I believe that homosexuality is caused mainly by genetics.

2) Prison rape/sex. If all guys were like me, this would not occur. I don't understand why guys would rape or have sex with each other in prison. Why not just masturbate? That's what I do (and I'm a 39 year old virgin).


 

tm37

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To say that A man will engage in homosexual act is the same as being gay is absurd.

Prison love is usually the example they use BUT most prison lovers would much rather get a chick than a dude. There just ain't any chicks around. There fore you screw what is available.
 

tcsenter

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So this catches my attention ( I like controversy) she rambles on and on for a few minutes then says something along the lines of " 80% of males are partially heterosexual and homosexual, only 6% are completely homosexual and only 10% completely heterosexual" She then went on to explain that when in certain situations, ones that seem to put many males together without a female that the men would become homosexual. This disturbs me, and I dont find it to be true.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. You'll find that a lot of stuff you learn in college is at odds with reality. Especially sociology, economics, psychology, and other areas where there is expansive room for interpretation and bias, even far-flung interpretations.

You don't usually expect to pay several thousand dollars or more per year to be spoon fed someone else's propaganda, they should be paying you for the privilege. But that's the way it is...