Somali pirates hijack ship; 20 Americans aboard

[Dari]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Dari... you are a joke...

Let's look at your last two posts

There have already been countries that have volunteer to help in Somalia. Uganda and Nigeria are the two that come to mind. There were others as well but the main stumbling block has been money and additional (logistical) support from more advanced armies and a reluctance of the muslim nations to get involved.

The UN could do a lot more as well, namely being the umbrella organization to bring all the parties together. However, there has been no political will. Perhaps if Al Qaeda based itself in Somalia and launched attacks in America or Western Europe, the will to fight will be found?

and

lol. Do you guys have any ideas how many ships travel in these waters? Not to mention their objectives and political affiliations? No one would sign up to this considering their cargo, their destinations, and anything else they don't want other to know about.

For the pirates, this is nothing more than shooting at fish in a barrel.

Let me try to understand your thinking...

Countries will be unwilling to join together in sea convoys, but they will be willing to put feet on the ground and risk the lives of their soldiers??

Did I get that right?

You're the joke. There are already many nations' navies in that region, from China to Iran to India to Japan to America. It is doubtful they are cooperating deeper from the most basic levels. However, if the world gave political weight to the United Nations and a host of nations to deal with this problem it could be dealt with.

Political will and money can easily change hands. Intelligence and cooperation, however, does not come easily, especially if nations are hostile towards each other.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: da loser
cnn just said the captain was freed

Good, but the problem isn't over. Not surprisingly, Americans will forget about this problem like the gnats we are.

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: tweaker2
How about this then:

Generally Speaking, as a framework to start with -

Blockade the Somali coastline by those Nations that either use or benefit from the use of the shipping lanes the Somali's are operating in to prevent further hijacking attempts. Any craft launching from the Somali coastline will only be allowed to navigate no further than two miles out to sea.

Simultaneously, inform those pirates already holding hostages at sea that they will receive amnesty, a reward for each hostage released and safe passage back to Somalia.

Hold firm to this policy and let the Somali's know there will be no other offer tendered, and that any craft violating a two mile limit will be confiscated, and that the use of overwhelming deadly force is authorized should the need arise.

Under UN control, use the blockade to start a dialog with those Somali leaders who have the most influence. The goal being to initially acquire cooperation, coerced or otherwise, and eventually steadily improving relations with other Nations.

That means just about EVERY nation on Earth considering these are the primary routes to Europe and America for nations not on the Pacific rim. The smarter idea would be to nip the problem in the bud and make Somalia whole again. Then, and only then, will the Somalis have the power to stop these pirates from operating from their ports.

This is what I was alluding to in my closing comment.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: cubeless
we have a test...

let's see what the guy does...

How did he do?

 

[Red Dawn]

Good Job Seals, Good Job Obama though he only did what any other President would have done, let the experts handle it. Of course some of his his detractors like Budmantimid and Fear Evil would of been howling like the spineless little snots they are if the Captain would have been killed

 

[babylon5]

Somali pirates vow revenge over comrades' killings

"The French and the Americans will regret starting this killing. We do not kill, but take only ransom. We shall do something to anyone we see as French or American from now," Hussein, a pirate, told Reuters by satellite phone.

I guess Mr. Hussein forgot his comrades' threat to kill the Captain.

 

[NoStateofMind]

These Navy Seals are the bravest of souls. Hats off to them. Have a :beer: on me fella's! Thanks for your service :thumbsup:

 

[DaveSimmons]

> Topic Summary: What will Obma do?
> Ok let see what Obma will do. This could get interesting.

Rescue the captain safely. Obma saved the day! He is the Obmassiah!

 

[Bitek]

:beer::beer::beer:

Nice job Navy, Obama and many hats off to to the Cpt who risked his life for his crew. He's the biggest hero in all this!
:beer:

 

[NoStateofMind]

The more I hear about this the more it sounds like a movie with a happy ending. I don't like to see people killed but they put themselves in that position and had plenty of time to change their minds.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: babylon5
Somali pirates vow revenge over comrades' killings

"The French and the Americans will regret starting this killing. We do not kill, but take only ransom. We shall do something to anyone we see as French or American from now," Hussein, a pirate, told Reuters by satellite phone.

I guess Mr. Hussein forgot his comrades' threat to kill the Captain.

This wouldn't be an issue if they weren't PIRATES!

Good Job to Obama and the Navy...and if these fools want to escalate with the US Navy then they should be prepared to meet their fate.

 

[Drakkon]

So now can Obama break out the 'Mission Accomplished' banner?

 

[aphex]

http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001151/

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: conehead433
I honestly can't believe that this has gone on for as long as it has when the solution is so simple. Kill every last one of them.

You Rambo types just slay me.

How do you identify who "every last one of them" are? How do we know where they're hiding? If we haven't figured out where Osama Bin Laden is after 7.5 years, how are we supposed to magically know where all the pirates are?

Do we just completely blow up the communities in which we think they're hiding? Do we make millions of Somalians pay the price for what a few hundred or thousand pirates are doing? Sounds an awful lot like we'd be doing to Somali communities what the world condemns Israel for doing in Palestinian communities.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: episodic
I don't understand. Why don't they just deploy a seal team and be done with them? It is stupid that these ships they are capturing have no way of defending themselves.

What about the next time?

And that area is so large that you need a host of nations coordinating their actions. Better yet, why don't we just stop the problem at its source and help the African Union make Somalia a more governable country? Nah, that's not an immediate problem for the West:roll:

Ethiopia should have annexed that shithole country a long time ago. I say we feed them cash and weapons until they do it.

HAHAHAHAHA! That's always worked so well in the past.

 

[piasabird]

Drop cluster bombs.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: episodic
I don't understand. Why don't they just deploy a seal team and be done with them? It is stupid that these ships they are capturing have no way of defending themselves.

What about the next time?

And that area is so large that you need a host of nations coordinating their actions. Better yet, why don't we just stop the problem at its source and help the African Union make Somalia a more governable country? Nah, that's not an immediate problem for the West:roll:

Ethiopia should have annexed that shithole country a long time ago. I say we feed them cash and weapons until they do it.

HAHAHAHAHA! That's always worked so well in the past.

We have been training Ethiopian soldiers and giving them equipment. Last summer or 2 summers ago, they made a push with the Somali transitional government to recapture and control certain areas of Somali against the warlords that were pushing back.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: piasabird
O'Bamma will do nothing. He is a coward.

Obama won't order the Navy to do anything beyond monitor the situation until the shipping company hands over control of the situation to the Navy.

Obama needs the permission of the shipping company to defend citizens of the United States? Jesus Christ... You are the POTUS.. show some fucking leadership.

Obama is disagreeing with the pirates without being disagreeable.

lol, sorry, just reading this now. ah, me. It's like the 3 stooges.

 

[irishScott]

I came in here thinking this was new, then I noticed the OP's post date.