Solve All SP2 Problems

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Mitzi

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: Smilin
Edit: Also guys: don't bust his balls too much about not automating 20-30 sp2 installs a day.

But I want to!!!!

But remember the 11th commandment...

Thou Shall not Flame.

OTOH....bah! Why not?

*Readies flame thrower*

Edit: Perhaps that should be Thou Shall not Flame and that thou shall simply ignore the moronic newbies.

In my religion, that commandment doesn't exist, I have only a few.
Thou shall drink plenty of beer every week
Thou shall drink plenty of booze every week
Thou shall listen to heavy metal every day
To see the rest, you gotta be 18

 

[buckmasterson]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Yeah, I just got a little pissy cause people were rather rude. Sorry about that. Maybe after I spend a lifetime getting a million posts or so I'll get some respect.. lol....

The post title you choose means a lot to the response you expect. Also, posting that you work for Best Buy in a computer builder's forum is bound to bring the defense onto the playing field. We would rather spend a lifetime figuring out our problems than to ask for help...

This being said, order the free CD from Microsoft, and sell it to Best Buy for 10$ each.

 

[Redviffer]

Originally posted by: buckmasterson
Order the CD from Microsoft. It took two weeks to get mine and it works fine.

Yup, I did this as well, and I've had zero problems with all my WinXP machines, one is a home xp as well.

 

[Gamingphreek]

I think smilin has summed it up in his posts. Excellent posts.

SOY773... you just came in here with the wrong attitude. You came into a computer hardware forum and had a pompous air about you and acted like you know eveything and we a stupid and know nothing. The people on these forums, in general, no MUCH more than the avg consumer.

Also buckmasterson nailed it to. If you come into a forum similiar to this acting like we know nothing and saying stuff we know is wrong or trying to teach us stuff, or trying to talk down, you came to the wrong place. Post count doesn't really matter, im sure there are lifers in here who dont know anything (ie just post in Off topic or something), or they know very little. Its not that its how you present your information and how you act toward other members. Yeah post count does earn a certain respect but if you concentrate oin helping rather than post cound you will be a 100% better poster.

Now then, Welcome to the forums

-Kevin

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
I'm referring to people who come into Best Buy. Not forum people. But if people think downloading or automating SP2 is the same as using the disk, they need to wake up. I was meerly trying to give advice because this has solved all the problems we've had at the Geek Squad with SP2. BTW... The name calling didn't start with me. If you don't want to take my advice... fine whatever, no reason to start calling me stupid.

cough cough... gamingphreak... cough cough

hehe. fortunately for us we're not a bunch of monkeys who can't handle installing sp2 from the website. i made my own cd (well i slipstreamed) by downloading the network install and burning it to a cd. wow i should market it as the 'at squad' version and install it for 24 dollars.

 

[S0Y73NTGR33N]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
I'm referring to people who come into Best Buy. Not forum people. But if people think downloading or automating SP2 is the same as using the disk, they need to wake up. I was meerly trying to give advice because this has solved all the problems we've had at the Geek Squad with SP2. BTW... The name calling didn't start with me. If you don't want to take my advice... fine whatever, no reason to start calling me stupid.

cough cough... gamingphreak... cough cough

hehe. fortunately for us we're not a bunch of monkeys who can't handle installing sp2 from the website. i made my own cd (well i slipstreamed) by downloading the network install and burning it to a cd. wow i should market it as the 'at squad' version and install it for 24 dollars.

Do it, and also charge people $30 to hit clean their PC with an air compressor. (Takes about 30 seconds) I think it calculates that you make like 3,000 an hour or something. lol...

 

[Mucker]

2 laptops and 1 desktop all running SP2 with no problems for me.......

m

 

[CQuinn]

I have personally confirmed that the free SP2 CD you can get from Compusa, is the same
as the CD you get by ordering it thru MS. I am going to assume that it is also the same
as the CD you can get from Best Buy, although I have not personally confirmed it.

I have also checked the setup file on the CD I got from Compusa, and personally confirmed it
is exactly the same file as the Network install that you can download from MS.

The incremental install and deployable installs will be different, because they will not have
to load all the components of the service pack prior to determining what really needs to be
installed on the system. Both can be much more efficient in thier own way, but also require
different handling than the standard (CD/Network) install package.

A Best Buy tech would not be able to set up an automated install for SP2, because the very
nature of his job assumes that every system he works on is a different configuration, or at least
has different problems with each customer. Automated installs start with the assumption that
all the systems being upgraded are already being managed to match a set of company
chosen configurations.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
quote... rbrandon "LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech. "


yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

For all the non-idiots a little tip from your friends at the Geek Squad. Pretty simple stuff so a lot of you probably already know it.
You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....

Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)

Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?

Registry value at 3. Boot time from power on until the drive stops churning - 1 minute, 41 seconds.
Registry value at 2. Boot time from power on until the drive stops churning - 1 minute, 43 seconds.

Simply miraculous.

 

[S0Y73NTGR33N]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
quote... rbrandon "LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech. "


yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

For all the non-idiots a little tip from your friends at the Geek Squad. Pretty simple stuff so a lot of you probably already know it.
You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....

Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)

Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?

Registry value at 3. Boot time from power on until the drive stops churning - 1 minute, 41 seconds.
Registry value at 2. Boot time from power on until the drive stops churning - 1 minute, 43 seconds.

Simply miraculous.

If it takes you 1 minute 41 seconds then windows is not your problem... what are you running xp on a pentium 1? lol.... Get a new computer!

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
quote... rbrandon "LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech. "


yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

For all the non-idiots a little tip from your friends at the Geek Squad. Pretty simple stuff so a lot of you probably already know it.
You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....

Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)

Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?

Registry value at 3. Boot time from power on until the drive stops churning - 1 minute, 41 seconds.
Registry value at 2. Boot time from power on until the drive stops churning - 1 minute, 43 seconds.

Simply miraculous.

If it takes you 1 minute 41 seconds then windows is not your problem... what are you running xp on a pentium 1? lol.... Get a new computer!

Did it ever occur to you that he might be running some applications that might require some time to start? :roll:

Not that I live in the US, so I'm unlikely to run into them, but those Geek Squad fellas seem like a real bunch of l337 h4x0rz if you're any indication.

 

[bsobel]

You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....
Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)
Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?

Not that I expected more from you, but your description is wrong. This setting controls which types of files that Windows uses the prefetch information for. The possible settings are:

0 - no prefetch
1 - prefetch applications only
2 - prefetch boot only
3 - prefetch both applications & boot

Of course, changing the setting to 2 (as you suggest, :roll: ) casues normal applications to load slower (this has nothing to do with boot time, btw)

Bill

 

[bsobel]

yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

Which store? My neighbor is a BB manager, I'm sure he can escalate this for me. I'm sure BB will be proud to have people like you representing them publically in forums like this.

Bill

 

[Eltano1]

I asked him the same question but he did not answer it.

Oh well, I was going to reccomend to my customer to go and see him when I don't have the time.

Eltano

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: bsobel

You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....
Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)
Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?

Not that I expected more from you, but your description is wrong. This setting controls which types of files that Windows uses the prefetch information for. The possible settings are:

0 - no prefetch
1 - prefetch applications only
2 - prefetch boot only
3 - prefetch both applications & boot

Of course, changing the setting to 2 (as you suggest, :roll: ) casues normal applications to load slower (this has nothing to do with boot time, btw)

Bill

Ah, good info, thank you.

If it takes you 1 minute 41 seconds then windows is not your problem... what are you running xp on a pentium 1? lol.... Get a new computer!

2.1GHz Athlon XP with 1GB of RAM.
Yes, I've got a decent number of background apps, and hardware drivers to load. AVG, MBM5, Norton System Doctor, Spybot realtime protection, Logitech programs, and a few others. All programs are there intentionally. Spyware free too.

 

[S0Y73NTGR33N]

I don't know but it made my system boot faster for some reason. Maybe cause I got rid of a lot of startup items in msconfig that aren't really needed.


BTW what is this startup item?... In startup item it says 1. In command it also says 1.

 

[bsobel]

BTW what is this startup item?... In startup item it says 1. In command it also says 1.

Your the Uber BB tech, you tell us. You still haven't told us which store you work for...

Bill

 

[Eltano1]

He will not tell where he works.

Eltano

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
I don't know but it made my system boot faster for some reason. Maybe cause I got rid of a lot of startup items in msconfig that aren't really needed.

The best thing you can do with prefetch is clear it out every 6-9 months or so. More frequently usually doesn't help much. You'll have an incredibly fast boot just after doing this but a somewhat sluggish computer after boot is complete. In subsequent boots it will slow down a bit but settle into something only slightly faster. Sluggishness after boot will disappear.

Stripping 3rd party items from 'services' and 'startup' in MSConfig can help a lot but there will be little change in boot time from disabling MS services.

 

[rogue1979]

I haven't done any testing, but I set enable prefetcher to "5" per Black Vipers tweaks. Windows apps seem to be very responsive.