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Solve All SP2 Problems

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S0Y73NTGR33N

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I work as a computer tech, and I deal with microsoft a lot. After much auto-update downloading of sp2 with bad results, they have sent out an official Microsoft release of SP2 that doesn't fail, has no problems that I've ran into yet. Want it?.. it's simple.. go to Best Buy, they have a box of them behind the Geek Squad counter. They charge $29 to put it on your computer but maybe you can con a disc out of them, since they have boxes full of them.
 
Tried that... doesn't work with certain setups.. I put SP2 on about 20-30 computers a day.. Anything I've downloaded has messed up in one way or another.
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Tried that... doesn't work with certain setups.. I put SP2 on about 20-30 computers a day.. Anything I've downloaded has messed up in one way or another.
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Umm, it's the same damn version, it doesn't matter...
 
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Tried that... doesn't work with certain setups.. I put SP2 on about 20-30 computers a day.. Anything I've downloaded has messed up in one way or another.
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Umm, it's the same damn version, it doesn't matter...
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Zugzwang,
You're talking to a guy who's deploying SP2 on 20-30 computers a day without automating it. He won't get it. Larry will be along with a rant on this topic soon.
 
I don't get it either, I'm a comp. tech as well, I have deploy SP2 in several PCs, even in my own network (4 PCs) and I did not have any problems yet. Something is wrong with this picture.

Eltano
 
Is this guy stupid or soemthing. #1 why doesn't he automate it over a network or something, #2 wtf is he talking to a microsoft rep for? SO Service Pack 2 has some flaws, all software has flaws.

Also everyone else is right it is the same version everyone else gets. If you dont like it why dont you order yourself a free CD from microsoft.

Also does that mean you bring 20-30 PC's to bestbuy everyday to have them updated.

Heck for that matter do you have any idea what your talking about 😛 ?

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Lol... oookkk... next time a I'm talking with the Microsoft rep I'll let him know he's lying to me.... lol...
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Yes he was lying to you.

I know they are called "sales representatives", but they are salesmen. Salesmen lie. They lie like dogs, especially ones from Microsoft, or for that matter any big vendor (or small vendor for that matter).

Remember this little rule of thumb:
Q: Do you know how tell if a salesman is lying to you?
A: He has his mouth open.

Now you can convince me that he wasn't lying to you by giving me a good reason why Microsoft would knowingly release a screwed up service pack over the internet while giving Best Buy the good version.

I think it was much more likely that you were bitching at the sales guy, he knew that you were screwing something up, but he figured that it would piss you off if he told you that. So he told you that Best Buy had better versions and would solve all your problems.

You fork over 29 dollars and get your computers upgraded properly.

What I think personally is that:
1. The sales representative was lying to you.
2. Best buy has the same access to service pack 2 as anybody else on the planet: thru free cdroms or free downloads
3. The people working at Best Buy actually know what they are doing from extensive experiance.
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Is this guy stupid or soemthing. #1 why doesn't he automate it over a network or something, #2 wtf is he talking to a microsoft rep for? SO Service Pack 2 has some flaws, all software has flaws.
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Personally I would never ever ever let a service pack from Microsoft be installed automaticly. I'd setup a test enviroment were I have people screw around with computers doing their normal (and abnormal) daily tasks, then some extra testing on top of that to make sure everything worked 100%.

Then I would reserve a weekend of overtime for me and a few other people to systematicly install the service pack and test (not severe testing, just enough to make sure that it has basic functionality) each and every OS that needs it.

If you take it for granted that a service pack "just works" then your asking for it big time.
 
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Is this guy stupid or soemthing. #1 why doesn't he automate it over a network or something, #2 wtf is he talking to a microsoft rep for? SO Service Pack 2 has some flaws, all software has flaws.
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Personally I would never ever ever let a service pack from Microsoft be installed automaticly. I'd setup a test enviroment were I have people screw around with computers doing their normal (and abnormal) daily tasks, then some extra testing on top of that to make sure everything worked 100%.

Then I would reserve a weekend of overtime for me and a few other people to systematicly install the service pack and test (not severe testing, just enough to make sure that it has basic functionality) each and every OS that needs it.

If you take it for granted that a service pack "just works" then your asking for it big time.
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Well you can push out the install automatically over the network, then you go around and make sure every computer rebooted.

No need to fat finger throught he install process when it can be automated. Hell I work in an environment where updates and service packs are deployed to 2000-3000 computers at one time. People sure as hell aren't going to walk around to install this crap on each one.

Difference is that we know the environment for our desktops so we can throughly test everything before pushing the updates out.
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
I work as a computer tech, and I deal with microsoft a lot. After much auto-update downloading of sp2 with bad results, they have sent out an official Microsoft release of SP2 that doesn't fail, has no problems that I've ran into yet. Want it?.. it's simple.. go to Best Buy, they have a box of them behind the Geek Squad counter. They charge $29 to put it on your computer but maybe you can con a disc out of them, since they have boxes full of them.
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LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech.
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
I work as a computer tech, and I deal with microsoft a lot. After much auto-update downloading of sp2 with bad results, they have sent out an official Microsoft release of SP2 that doesn't fail, has no problems that I've ran into yet. Want it?.. it's simple.. go to Best Buy, they have a box of them behind the Geek Squad counter. They charge $29 to put it on your computer but maybe you can con a disc out of them, since they have boxes full of them.
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Figures this would come from someone with song lyrics as their sig.

Anyway, who isn't a computer tech? I've "deployed" SP2 at home, and we've deployed SP2 here at my company... and I'm happy to report no major glitches.
 
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Is this guy stupid or soemthing. #1 why doesn't he automate it over a network or something, #2 wtf is he talking to a microsoft rep for? SO Service Pack 2 has some flaws, all software has flaws.
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Personally I would never ever ever let a service pack from Microsoft be installed automaticly. I'd setup a test enviroment were I have people screw around with computers doing their normal (and abnormal) daily tasks, then some extra testing on top of that to make sure everything worked 100%.

Then I would reserve a weekend of overtime for me and a few other people to systematicly install the service pack and test (not severe testing, just enough to make sure that it has basic functionality) each and every OS that needs it.

If you take it for granted that a service pack "just works" then your asking for it big time.
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Well you can push out the install automatically over the network, then you go around and make sure every computer rebooted.

No need to fat finger throught he install process when it can be automated. Hell I work in an environment where updates and service packs are deployed to 2000-3000 computers at one time. People sure as hell aren't going to walk around to install this crap on each one.

Difference is that we know the environment for our desktops so we can throughly test everything before pushing the updates out.
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Thats what i was talking about! 🙂 pinned it right on the nose.

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Is this guy stupid or soemthing. #1 why doesn't he automate it over a network or something, #2 wtf is he talking to a microsoft rep for? SO Service Pack 2 has some flaws, all software has flaws.
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Personally I would never ever ever let a service pack from Microsoft be installed automaticly. I'd setup a test enviroment were I have people screw around with computers doing their normal (and abnormal) daily tasks, then some extra testing on top of that to make sure everything worked 100%.

Then I would reserve a weekend of overtime for me and a few other people to systematicly install the service pack and test (not severe testing, just enough to make sure that it has basic functionality) each and every OS that needs it.

If you take it for granted that a service pack "just works" then your asking for it big time.
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Well you can push out the install automatically over the network, then you go around and make sure every computer rebooted.

No need to fat finger throught he install process when it can be automated. Hell I work in an environment where updates and service packs are deployed to 2000-3000 computers at one time. People sure as hell aren't going to walk around to install this crap on each one.

Difference is that we know the environment for our desktops so we can throughly test everything before pushing the updates out.
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Thats what i was talking about! 🙂 pinned it right on the nose.

-Kevin
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Normal patches I would agree with you. But not service packs.

To risky. Your going to have to many computers were they just aren't going to boot up. The programs aren't going to work, people are going to show up and have computers that don't work. sure install the stupid pack automaticly, but still make sure that you have basic functionality.
 
quote... rbrandon "LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech. "


yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

For all the non-idiots a little tip from your friends at the Geek Squad. Pretty simple stuff so a lot of you probably already know it.
You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....

Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)

Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
quote... rbrandon "LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech. "


yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

For all the non-idiots a little tip from your friends at the Geek Squad. Pretty simple stuff so a lot of you probably already know it.
You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....

Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)

Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?
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LOL, so your "solution to all SP2 problems" is to have people pay you $29 to install it for them?
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
quote... rbrandon "LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech. "


yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

For all the non-idiots a little tip from your friends at the Geek Squad. Pretty simple stuff so a lot of you probably already know it.
You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....

Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)

Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?
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So your some moron who comes in here, says that he is in capable of installing a service pack.

Then you tell people becaues your to stupid to install a SP2 that it's likely that everybody here is in the same boat and that they should come down to best buy and pay you 30 bucks to install it for them.

And you calling me a idiot? You work at Best Buy and are proud of it? (I wouldn't be if I were you, Best Buy blows goats.)

You have some serious serious issues you need to work out.

 
No... just don't download it. Or automate it... Get the disk... Walk up to the counter and say.. "Hey give me your SP2 disk." Simple, easy, learn to read.

BTW the $29 also includes a customization. Basically making idiot's computers less vulnerable and run twice as fast by tweaking windows a little bit. Default settings are extremely shitty. Microsoft = heads up their asses.
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
quote... rbrandon "LOL a "computer tech" who pays the hacks at best buy to install SP2 for him.... some tech. "


yo numbnuts. I work for Best Buy. I fix computers everyday from idiots like you, lol.

For all the non-idiots a little tip from your friends at the Geek Squad. Pretty simple stuff so a lot of you probably already know it.
You can change your prefetch parameters to load windows XP faster. In the default setting it loads both your programs and your OS at the same time. But it will load faster if you set it to load the OS first and then your programs. You just have to edit the registry file....

Hkey_local_machine/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Management/Prefetch Parameters/ Enable Prefetcher (type REG-DWORD)

Change the value to 2. My windows loads in about 8.4 secs. What you got?
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Hmm guys yeah idiots like us. I find that interesting considering we are like the tech world in this forum. But hey we no noithing!! SO ill bet everyone of us go to Bestbuy regularly to get our computers fixed. Yeah you guys probably are good, but calling us idiots when we build our own computers, when we solder, when we do mods, i dont think that is idiotic.

Well maybe you are referring to the people who do come into there who know nothing about computers. I certainly wouldn't call them idiots, yeah they dont know near as much as us in this forum, but i certainly dont think they are stupid.

I dont normally bring rank up in the forums, because there are plenty of people here who are diamond members and what not who dont know crap, but it seems to me that a Junior Member is calling everyone idiots. Maybe you dont know the rules of the forums, so here.

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
No... just don't download it. Or automate it... Get the disk... Walk up to the counter and say.. "Hey give me your SP2 disk." Simple, easy, learn to read.

BTW the $29 also includes a customization. Basically making idiot's computers less vulnerable and run twice as fast by tweaking windows a little bit. Default settings are extremely shitty. Microsoft = heads up their asses.
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I am pretty sure that my computer is less vunerable then anything you've ever touched in the past 5 years.


And as far as tweaking windows? Google.com isn't a secret. I am sure that any moron with a extra ten minutes on their hands can figure out all your registry hacks.
 
I'm referring to people who come into Best Buy. Not forum people. But if people think downloading or automating SP2 is the same as using the disk, they need to wake up. I was meerly trying to give advice because this has solved all the problems we've had at the Geek Squad with SP2. BTW... The name calling didn't start with me. If you don't want to take my advice... fine whatever, no reason to start calling me stupid.

cough cough... gamingphreak... cough cough
 
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