Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'

[TheAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Kalbi
That is why the US, based on the Constitution, which is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, provides the most freedom and prosperity in the world...

How is the Constitution based on Judeo-Christian beliefs?

It isn't. The founding fathers were deists, but dont let that stop Kalbi. He's on a roll.

 

[TheAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
P&N for the win?

Agreed.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
P&N for the win?

Agreed.

Rename it PN&R.

FTW.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: Come to Meh
without God, there would be no life, nor ATOT.

/thread

LOL

im pretty sure ATOT is the work of the devil!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
P&N for the win?

Agreed.

Rename it PN&R.

FTW.

Sounds good.
Of course, we don't see cause and effect in this article. If being godless is great, that means the USSR and Communist China would be best off.

Time to move this thread.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
P&N for the win?

Agreed.

Rename it PN&R.

FTW.

Sounds good.
Of course, we don't see cause and effect in this article. If being godless is great, that means the USSR and Communist China would be best off.

Time to move this thread.

To assume the entirety of a nation's success based solely on godliness/godlessness would be folly. There are obviously many other factors at play, such as personal freedom and economic freedom.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Kalbi
That is why the US, based on the Constitution, which is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, provides the most freedom and prosperity in the world...

Read your history. A good portion of the found fathers were deists, which is just a stones throw from atheism. That's why "God" doesn't appear anywhere in the Constitution. And I'm glad... state-sponsored religion is as bad or worse as state-sponsored atheism.

 

[clamum]

Wouldn't surprise me.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Kalbi

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Kalbi
That is why the US, based on the Constitution, which is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, provides the most freedom and prosperity in the world...

How is the Constitution based on Judeo-Christian beliefs?

This country was founded by men who believed in a philosophy that determined there existed good as well as evil.

The basis of Liberty, equality of men, God-given human rights...try reading writings of the founders of the Constitution...

also read the Declaration of Independence:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them...... that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights

while it doesn't necessarily refer to any specific religion, it refers to some existence of a higher power

True, but also the Declaration of Independence isn't a governmental document. It was really a letter written to the King of England telling him to go fvck himself.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Oh boy...

How prevalent religion is is just one of numerous differences b/w the USA and countries listed in that article. To contribute all statistical differences solely to religion is just assinine.

Just going to quote this again for relevance.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: So
Oh, and this thread needs some more of this

BRILLIANT!

 

[DaShen]

It compares the social peformance of relatively secular countries, such as Britain, with the US, where the majority believes in a creator rather than the theory of evolution.

It is a flawed study, if that is their base for their research, but it would be interesting if this leads to further more viable, scientific research on the subject. The research must be broader in scale. It should have a full scale sample set to really be able to claim this, even pulling historic facts which actually go against this theory. (Roman Empire was a huge government (mainly secular, except in tradition)m but did many horrible things) But I digress. It is obvious from that statement alone that this study is flawed. I truly hope this leads to more funding into research on this topic though.

THE REST OF YOU can FLAME ON

 

[Kerouactivist]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: So
Oh, and this thread needs some more of this

BRILLIANT!

nah more of this

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Oh boy...

How prevalent religion is is just one of numerous differences b/w the USA and countries listed in that article. To contribute all statistical differences solely to religion is just assinine.

QFT

 

[CKent]

The study counters the view of believers that religion is necessary to provide the moral and ethical foundations of a healthy society

Nothing frightens me quite as much as people who only behave ethically because they think God is watching...

Originally posted by: So
Oh, and this thread needs some more of this

:laugh:

 

[cjgallen]

Originally posted by: bthorny

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: So
Oh, and this thread needs some more of this

BRILLIANT!

nah more of this

:heart: FSM

 

[HardcoreRobot]

well duh

 

[mdchesne]

agreed. religion should go.

btw, bad grammar also contributes to society's downgrade

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Kalbi
That is why the US, based on the Constitution, which is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, provides the most freedom and prosperity in the world...

How is the Constitution based on Judeo-Christian beliefs?

Duhhh...the common beliefs and common sense

thou shalt not steal

thou shalt not kill

DUHHH

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: mdchesne
agreed. religion should go.

btw, bad grammar also contributes to society's downgrade

I conker

 

[newParadigm]

religion in government is the problem, when people practice the truth of the gospel, sin wouldn't increase

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Kalbi
That is why the US, based on the Constitution, which is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, provides the most freedom and prosperity in the world...

How is the Constitution based on Judeo-Christian beliefs?

Duhhh...the common beliefs and common sense

thou shalt not steal

thou shalt not kill

DUHHH

Since, you know, those aren't two of the most common components of any social contract, anywhere.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: newParadigm
religion in government is the problem, when people practice the truth of the gospel, sin wouldn't increase

Man will never be free of his evil nature.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: newParadigm
religion in government is the problem, when people practice the truth of the gospel, sin wouldn't increase

Man will never be free of his evil nature.

Not until man is changed by God.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Kalbi
That is why the US, based on the Constitution, which is based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, provides the most freedom and prosperity in the world...

How is the Constitution based on Judeo-Christian beliefs?

Duhhh...the common beliefs and common sense

thou shalt not steal

thou shalt not kill

DUHHH

hard to tell if you are joking or not.