- Jun 26, 2007
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Well, there are a lot of people asking strange questions and i thought i should start a thread for it, i know i am not the owner of this forum and i know i don't get to say what goes in any one thread but i'd appreciate it if we kept this thread simple and if we kept it devoid of the usual "creatine receptor downgrade" idiocy that other threads have mentioned.
1. DIET.
Pretty much whatever you'd like as long as you eat enough protein, let's not complicate this, if you want to stay in shape, you pretty much know what you need to eat, if you want to grow, you need meat (as in proteins)
2. Training
Two choices and alternate them.
1. 1 musclegroup per day five days a week, four exercises of four sets (not counting a quick warmup) per musclegroup, don't be a sissy, don't do pyramid training, it sucks, don't use machines, do compound exercises only, if your workout takes more than 30-40 minutes you have utterly failed, you work out in the gym and talk when you are done.
2. 2 musclegroups per day six days a week, two exercises per muscle group, one compound and one lighter, like bench presses and flyes.
3. Supplements.
Can't eat enough to keep your weight, you'll need protein supplements, otherwise you don't, if you do need protein supplement, use EAA/BCAA combos, they are readily available and don't cost you even as much as bulk whey per portion, the rest is just worthless.
Creatine monohydrate is the only form known to work, there are a bazillion others of them which offer one tenth of the amount of the active substance (creatine numbnuts) for five times the price, just buy creatine monohydrate, it's cheap and it works as well or better than any other form.
Bloat never comes from creatine, it binds to water but remember where it is stored, IN THE MUSCLES, not under your skin. don't do it on and off, just do it all the time, there is no reason to go off it, there is no such thing as a creatine receptor and thus no such thing as creatine receptor downgrade, it's transported as a nutrient, not as a hormone (it's not a hormone and not a prohormone).
4. Arachidonic acid
This promotes inflammation in your muscles when you work out (working out in itself promotes muscle inflammation) and it makes your muscles bigger.
If you are bulking, skip omega3 as far as you can, eat egg yolks and beef as much as you can afford and have the taste for (there are supplements to do this too), skip extra antioxidants but be aware that this isn't entirely healthy, this isn't a rule to live by, in general you'll want to get very high amounts of antioxidants and Omega3.
But it does work, 32lbs of Jake says that it does work, even when discontinued, and this is important, while most other things only work as long as you are doing them, like creatine or extra supplementation or prohormones or steroids (yeah i know they are the same thing but most don't), this is something you can get off of and still maintain your added mass, that is very rare.
Please keep in mind that this is just John's opinion. Others may have a different opinion so you should weight them all and make up your own mind.
Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn
1. DIET.
Pretty much whatever you'd like as long as you eat enough protein, let's not complicate this, if you want to stay in shape, you pretty much know what you need to eat, if you want to grow, you need meat (as in proteins)
2. Training
Two choices and alternate them.
1. 1 musclegroup per day five days a week, four exercises of four sets (not counting a quick warmup) per musclegroup, don't be a sissy, don't do pyramid training, it sucks, don't use machines, do compound exercises only, if your workout takes more than 30-40 minutes you have utterly failed, you work out in the gym and talk when you are done.
2. 2 musclegroups per day six days a week, two exercises per muscle group, one compound and one lighter, like bench presses and flyes.
3. Supplements.
Can't eat enough to keep your weight, you'll need protein supplements, otherwise you don't, if you do need protein supplement, use EAA/BCAA combos, they are readily available and don't cost you even as much as bulk whey per portion, the rest is just worthless.
Creatine monohydrate is the only form known to work, there are a bazillion others of them which offer one tenth of the amount of the active substance (creatine numbnuts) for five times the price, just buy creatine monohydrate, it's cheap and it works as well or better than any other form.
Bloat never comes from creatine, it binds to water but remember where it is stored, IN THE MUSCLES, not under your skin. don't do it on and off, just do it all the time, there is no reason to go off it, there is no such thing as a creatine receptor and thus no such thing as creatine receptor downgrade, it's transported as a nutrient, not as a hormone (it's not a hormone and not a prohormone).
4. Arachidonic acid
This promotes inflammation in your muscles when you work out (working out in itself promotes muscle inflammation) and it makes your muscles bigger.
If you are bulking, skip omega3 as far as you can, eat egg yolks and beef as much as you can afford and have the taste for (there are supplements to do this too), skip extra antioxidants but be aware that this isn't entirely healthy, this isn't a rule to live by, in general you'll want to get very high amounts of antioxidants and Omega3.
But it does work, 32lbs of Jake says that it does work, even when discontinued, and this is important, while most other things only work as long as you are doing them, like creatine or extra supplementation or prohormones or steroids (yeah i know they are the same thing but most don't), this is something you can get off of and still maintain your added mass, that is very rare.
Please keep in mind that this is just John's opinion. Others may have a different opinion so you should weight them all and make up your own mind.
Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn
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