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So Why aren't Israelis 'desert dudes' ?

BoltCase

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So Why aren't Israelis 'desert dudes' ? or is it that everyone who surronds them is a 'desert dude' but when it comes to Israel it becomes a tropical forest ?

:cool

Also, why the europeans think quite differently from the US? They must be anti-semitic, check this article from Haaretz daily itself:



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BARCELONA - The leaders of the European Union called Saturday on both Israel and Palestinians to rein in the violence. Ending a two-day summit, they said in a statement there "is no military solution to this conflict."

Israel's "use of excessive force" against Palestinians cannot be justified, they said. Equally, the leaders said, "actions against medical and humanitarian institutions and personnel are particularly unacceptable."

They added that "the indiscriminate [Palestinian] terrorist attacks killing and injuring innocent civilians must be condemned" and that the Palestinian Authority, headed by Yasser Arafat, "has the full responsibility of fighting terrorism with all the means at its disposal."

They urged Israel to immediately withdraw its forces from Palestinian-run areas and lift all restrictions on the movement of Arafat. In addition, they demanded that Israel stop the 'executions without trial' of Palestinians, to freeze the building of settlements, and to relieve the closures imposed upon Palestinian cities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.


They also called upon Israel to allow international observers to uphold a cease-fire between Israel and the PA.

"The European Union Committee is convinced that observation by a third party can assist both sides in their efforts and will push them to accept the the fact that the observers can help them reach a peace agreement," they said.

The EU statement was issued as U.S. Middle East mediator Anthony Zinni launched a second round of meetings with Palestinian security officials.

The EU welcomed Zinni's return to the region and said they were ready to work with him to press for peace.

Prospects for Zinni's open-ended mission improved after Israel withdrew from three West Bank cities on Friday, scaling back the largest military operation in a generation. IDF troops remained in two other towns under Palestinian control, despite an American call for a total Israeli withdrawal ahead of Zinni's renewed mediation.

Saudi plan a 'unique' chance
The EU statement also praised the Middle East peace initiative proposed by Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, calling it a "unique" chance for peace and urged Arab governments and Israel to use it to end violence in the region.

The Europeans expressed support of Abdullah's peace plan saying it "offers a unique opportunity to be seized in the interest of a just, lasting and comprehensive solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict."

The intiative calls for Arab nations to make peace with Israel in return for it handing back land captured in the 1967 Six-Day War.

Spanish Prime Minister Jose-Maria Aznar said the EU hopes "it can be endorsed by the Arab League" at a summit meeting later this month in Beirut.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has proposed the EU put together a 6.2 billion euro ($5.5 billion) economic development plan for the Middle East, to be implemented if a peace deal is reached.

Berlusconi said Italy would be a major contributor to the plan, which he has likened to the U.S. Marshal Plan that supported Europe's economic recovery after World War II.

EU to support Palestinian state
The EU leaders were set to reaffirm their support for the creation of an independent Palestinian state alongside an Israel secure within internationally recognized borders.

"[The EU supports] the creation of a democratic, viable and independent Palestinian state, bringing to an end the occupation of territories which began in 1967," Spanish Foreign Minister Josep Pique told reporters after a working dinner Friday night.

But unlike earlier drafts seen at the summit Friday, the declaration would not include a call for Israel to respect the fourth Geneva convention, which protects the rights of refugees. Asked to explain the amendment, Pique, whose country holds the EU's rotating presidency, said both sides in the conflict already knew what was required of them under international law.

Germany and the Netherlands, which traditionally oppose strong criticism of Israel, had insisted that the line be dropped, one EU diplomat said.
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Go Europe!!!
 
>>Also, why the europeans think quite differently from the US? They must be anti-semitic, >>>>
could it be we dont think it is fair to use tanks at people ,nore is it ok with terrorists of course...moment22..
 
des·ert1 Pronunciation Key (dzrt)
n.
A barren or desolate area, especially:
A dry, often sandy region of little rainfall, extreme temperatures, and sparse vegetation.
A region of permanent cold that is largely or entirely devoid of life.
An apparently lifeless area of water.

:Q
 


<< >>Also, why the europeans think quite differently from the US? They must be anti-semitic, >>>>
could it be we dont think it is fair to use tanks at people ,nore is it ok with terrorists of course...moment22..
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what is the point of having better technology if you can't use it?
 
>what is the point of having better technology if you can't use it?
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well friend,you know that was very ironic and you know what I mean,dont you?
 
Bolt·case1 Pronunciation Key (Boltcase)
n.
A barren or desolate post, especially:
A dry, often painful region of little sense, extreme neffism, and sparse substance.
A post of permanent offal that is largely or entirely devoid of comprehension.
An apparently lifeless area of little meaning.

🙂
 


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what is the point of having better technology if you can't use it?
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Maybe... Just MAYBE that when it's used undiscriminatory to kill innocent civilians.. it becomes JUST a little bit bad?

Nmmm, another good article from Haaretz Daily:

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RAMALLAH - The Israeli army's takeover of Ramallah and El Bireh and the accompanying heavy shooting have completely paralyzed Ramallah's medical system. In addition, many families, especially those with young children, are complaining that they are unable to go out to purchase food.

The government hospital in Ramallah ran out of oxygen yesterday. All attempts to coordinate with the Israel Defense Forces the entry of a vehicle from Jenin carrying oxygen canisters failed. In addition, the hospital's water supply was cut off after IDF bulldozers digging trenches nearby to prevent the passage of cars damaged the pipe. A small amount of water remained in rooftop containers and Red Crescent ambulances brought in more.

Tanks and bulldozers damaged several water pipes throughout the city, and geysers of water were visible everywhere. City and water company workers were unable to coordinate their efforts with the army authorities to renew the water supply and prevent the waste of water.

Hospital patients also reported that food was lacking in the smaller hospitals and the kitchen of the Jibril Rajoub's preventive security office in Ramallah prepared 180 meals for patients, distributing them in the organization's ambulances.

The Red Crescent suspended the use of its ambulances in the city after a Red Cross ambulance accompanying another ambulance was hit on Tuesday evening by Israeli army fire. Following the deaths of four medical staffers on the West Bank in the past two weeks, including two doctors, Red Crescent ambulances began to travel only when accompanied by Red Cross vehicles, under the assumption that Israeli soldiers would refrain from targeting Red Cross vehicles. However, after such a vehicle was hit, it was decided to suspend all trips.


Red Crescent representatives said they feared that IDF officers had not passed on the appropriate orders to their soldiers to prevent them from shooting at their vehicles. The Red Crescent received 42 requests in 12 hours from the ill and wounded but was unable to help them. Red Crescent representatives held meetings yesterday with IDF representatives at which they were promised free movement for ambulances, and as a result, the joint Red Cross-Red Crescent trips were resumed.

Due to the intense shooting and the de facto curfew on the city yesterday, two cases were reported of families that were unable to bury two relatives who had died. One case was broadcast on Al-Jazeera television, and the Foreign Ministry subsequently enabled the body to be buried.
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The IDF has killed so many innocents in the past few weeks that the Europians, and enlightened Israelis too, are pretty pissed at that.
 
Maybe... Just MAYBE that when it's used undiscriminatory to kill innocent civilians.. it becomes JUST a little bit bad?

well, i assumed he was talking about warfare... meaning soldiers. sorry if i misunderstood.
 


<< Also, Lebanon doesn't have any desert, but since they're arab, they're considered 'desert dudes'
:Q again
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I think you're the one making stereotypes there...I've never even heard of the phrase desert dudes.

I'm pretty offended now 🙁
 


<< Maybe... Just MAYBE that when it's used undiscriminatory to kill innocent civilians.. it becomes JUST a little bit bad?
well, i assumed he was talking about warfare... meaning soldiers. sorry if i misunderstood.
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No...you were right.

I think that when the US fights wars in Afghanistan, since we have much better training and equipment, we should only bring knives into battle. You know, to make it more fair 🙂
 


<< really,this is a very hard issue,I cant understand you people from US supporting Israel no matter what... >>



Yes all people in the US think the same thing all the time.
 
The accumulative results of decades of media brainwashing and euphemisms used to describe the state terror conducted by the IDF. I read Haaretz, the most respected Israeli newspaper, daily, and THEY expose and condemn the IDF policies on almost daily basis. Also, the Europeans and all human rights organization know very well the terrors of the IDF.

Jee, I remember earlier we talked about the IDF targeting red crescent and red cross ambulances and many in this forum supported the killing of medical personnel because they were "Palestinians" and automatically "terrorists".

*Sigh*
 
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