So who's at fault here? *UPDATED*

[buck]

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

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The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

How long have you been posting in these forums?

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

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The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

i'm telling you dude. it was left cause everyone is siding with the guy who sold me teh scanner cause he has thousands of more post's than me

 

[OdiN]

Edited to protect the moronic.

 

[Jaihahih]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

How long have you been posting in these forums?

None of your buisiness

 

[OdiN]

Edited to protect the moronic.

 

[Jaihahih]

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

i'm telling you dude. it was left cause everyone is siding with the guy who sold me teh scanner cause he has thousands of more post's than me

Best bet would be to quiet down, let this drop to the bottom so no more people can see this, and then leave a complaint in heatware about a retalitory feedback.

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: OdiN
chrisgoku7m

sorry dude. only people on my buddy list already can send me im's lol

what a loser lol

why don't u post my social while ur at it :laugh:

 

[OdiN]

Edited to protect the moronic.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: OdiN
*SNIP*

sorry dude. only people on my buddy list already can send me im's lol

what a loser lol

why don't u post my social while ur at it :laugh:

I could. I can get a lot more information than you think. But I wouldn't post a SS#.

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

i'm telling you dude. it was left cause everyone is siding with the guy who sold me teh scanner cause he has thousands of more post's than me

Best bet would be to quiet down, let this drop to the bottom so no more people can see this, and then leave a complaint in heatware about a retalitory feedback.

yeah ur right dude. nite man

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: OdiN
http://members.blackplanet.com/chris563/

ENOUGH!!!

I grow weary of your sexually suggestive dancing

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

How long have you been posting in these forums?

None of your buisiness

So you have only been here for 5 days, thanks for your opinion on this matter.

 

[OdiN]

Okay...well that was fun while it lasted.

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

How long have you been posting in these forums?

None of your buisiness

So you have only been here for 5 days, thanks for your opinion on this matter.

dude dont' insult the guy. there's plenty of other websites that use heat besides anandtech. and i'm sure his knowledge of it comes from being a long time member of other forums. i saw this guy the other day selling something that had thousands of posts at another site but was new to here. nothing wrong with that, and nothing worth insulting him over

 

[Jaihahih]

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

How long have you been posting in these forums?

None of your buisiness

So you have only been here for 5 days, thanks for your opinion on this matter.

dude dont' insult the guy. there's plenty of other websites that use heat besides anandtech. and i'm sure his knowledge of it comes from being a long time member of other forums. i saw this guy the other day selling something that had thousands of posts at another site but was new to here. nothing wrong with that, and nothing worth insulting him over

dude just let this die. don't respond anymore.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jaihahih
#


# You may think (or be convinced) this is a one time thing and wish to give them another chance.

Ok, but the problem is, many people may have the same hesitation. How many others who may have dealt with that same individual have thought the same thing and gone through the same wringer because of such actions by the same bad trader?

"But he's a nice guy" is not a reason not to leave a deserved bad eval.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys problems were solved. He found a way to receive a new unit. He left heat, because the deal was DONE in his mind. It was closed. He was going to get the scanner he wanted, and new too.

Neutral heat was not warrented however. Neutral is as good as a negative. Best bet would be positive heat, with a statement about how it didn't work but cannon replaced it anyways so no need for the extra hassle. Many of the people with 100+ heat, etc probably had a few quirks involved in their deals. The thing is that the only things the people leave in their evals are A++ trader, great guy, etc. If people left honest heat, detailing everything that that happened, the good and the bad, even if they were minor quirks that weren't deal breakers, Heatware would be a much reliable source rather than seeing just "blah blah blah, i'm trying ot fit my 10 words in" type of posts.

Also, retalitory heat should not be posted. Suggesting retalitory heat will leave a bad feeling in most trader's mind, because they know that if something goes wrong and they leave neutral/negative and it was warrented, you will defenetly retaliate against them.

WWYBYWB?

Here for less than a week telling us this...

and this comment was made why?

How long have you been posting in these forums?

None of your buisiness

So you have only been here for 5 days, thanks for your opinion on this matter.

dude dont' insult the guy. there's plenty of other websites that use heat besides anandtech. and i'm sure his knowledge of it comes from being a long time member of other forums. i saw this guy the other day selling something that had thousands of posts at another site but was new to here. nothing wrong with that, and nothing worth insulting him over

dude just let this die. don't respond anymore.

He's too stupid to take your advice..

 

[EMPshockwave82]

NOTE:

Retaliatory negative heat was only a threat as of this point. Neutral Heat stands while no return heat has been left.


EDIT: because threats are idle quasarsky

 

[bsobel]

None of your buisiness

Actually it is.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: bsobel

None of your buisiness

Actually it is.

:beer:

 

[Schfifty Five]

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: quasarsky

Originally posted by: OdiN
HAHAHA

In the "What age do you act" test he got age 12 ROFL

yeah i'm happy with that. i still believe the world is a good place despite knuckle heads like u

Under 12: You are a kid at heart. You still have an optimistic life view - and you look at the world with awe.

13-19: You are a teenager at heart. You question authority and are still trying to find your place in this world.

20-29: You are a twentysomething at heart. You feel excited about what's to come... love, work, and new experiences.

30-39: You are a thirtysomething at heart. You've had a taste of success and true love, but you want more!

40+: You are a mature adult. You've been through most of the ups and downs of life already. Now you get to sit back and relax.

You've never worked in a grocery store, have you?

yeah i have for 2 years when i was 16. i'm making almost 40,000 a year now. what about u?

You were whining in our PMs when we were talking price about how dirt poor you are. Don't try to start that crap now.

i also told u i'm saving up to move out of virginia, maybe texas, just somewhere new. i dont' have much saved up cause i bought a car and got a few things for my computer (gonna wait till i've moved for that 45 inch sharp aquos i want to get plus dual core opty, gotta make sure i can find another good job too lol). i wanna have about 5-6 grand saved up before i move. so yes thats why. there's nothing wrong with spending most of your money. u could go anyday and then what. money can't come to heaven or hell with ya lol

NOOOO, don't move to TX, that's where I live.

 

[Kaervak]

Originally posted by: quasarsky


seems like this person backed me too

Originally posted by: deadlyapp
leaving the retaliatory negative heat was way worse than the neutral, you did not have grounds to do that.

There was a misunderstanding. I think that a neutral is fair, especially if the product did not work, but if the seller was willing to replace it, or refund it, then it should be a positive, even if it didnt turn out how either of you would have liked.

I think positives on both ends should be the outcome for this trade, as well as lengthy descriptions on the trade.

Not exactly. A key point to his/her backup was completely ignored by you. The seller was never given a chance to fix the problem. Even if the seller was intentionally trying to scam you/avoid you, a two hour time window is not enough time to pass judgement on the deal and leave Heatware regardless of if it's positive, negative or neutral. People have lives, and as such sometimes aren't able to respond to PM's immediately. Maybe he was intentionally ignoring you, maybe not. The point still stands, not enough time was allowed to pass before Heatware was posted.


Personally I side with neither of you on this, you were too impatient for a resolution of the trade and finch should not have PM'd you with a threat/taunting of a negative. However, he hasn't hastily posted feedback before a resolution could be worked out. Make of that what you will. Flame me, call me names, say I'm missing the point or an idiot, I really don't care. I'm just trying to help you see the point everyone else in this thread is making.

 

[bonkers325]

you didnt give him enough time to respond to you. PM is like an email. you check it every so often...

just because it showed him as logged off doesnt mean that he is avoiding you. lots of people close their web browsers after they check their PM. maybe he blue screened, had a power outage, rebooted, WHATEVER. you showed no patience in dealing with him, and i hope you get a negative for being a bad trader

 

[Rufio]

this is the best thread of 2006 so far.

how's working in prison going for u?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Rufio
this is the best thread of 2006 so far.

how's working in prison going for u?

It's only been 3 days

 

[JS80]

Ass. You. Me.
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