So who is going to give up meat?

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interchange

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: interchange
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

Vegetarian for 4 years now.
It's not evolution you twit, it's stupidity. Look at your ****** teeth. Do you think you were meant to eat only vegetables? When nature decides that we should all eat veggies, it'll make meat taste bad, and will ensure that we no longer have the teeth for it. In the meanwhile, I'll be the omnivore that my genetics intended.

Don't try to force your holier-than-thou practices on everybody else.

We were designed to be plant eaters. Monkeys these days rarely eat meat, but they don't mind eating it when they find it. And you can clearly see that our teeth weren't designed for meat, because we have the teeth of a herbiwore.

But it's assumed that the fact that we switched to a diet consisting of meat helped our brain evolve. So eating meat is not a bad thing. Especialy when it tastes that good!

Btw, to produce one kilo of meat, you use 72 times the amount of energy in the meat itself. With plants it's like 2-10 times. Don't rememebr the details.
No we don't. We have both kinds of teeth. We have our canines in the front for cutting into meat... and molars for chewing.

Try proving it otherwise.

As far as "using up energy", I don't give a rat's ass. There are no Malthusian limits, so I am not worried.

We are definitely ominvorous like monkeys. However, vegetables should be the staple of the diet. Vegetarianism or at least a less meat-centric diet would definitely be more sustainable for the planet.

In regards to this:
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

I find it really funny how quickly it was attacked. That is actually a quote from Albert Einstein. I forgot to credit him in the original post.

Some thing you might learn to consider is the amount of oil/oil byproducts that goes into our food. We rely on it as a fertilizer and for processing foods, as we've ruined most of our fertile soil. In the near future, we may have to drastically change our diets (for the better). Meat ain't so bad...horribly inefficient, but not so bad. Processed foods however, are the devil.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Amused
Who says liberalism isn't just as oppressive as the religious right?

I love how people invent these stupid labels and apply them to whoever they like. WTF is "liberalism" anyway? Do you talk to a lot of people call themselves "liberals" or "liberalists", or whatever someone who "practices "liberalism" would be called?

The people trying to get you to give up eating meat to save the planet are called "environmentalists". You can disagree with them all you want, but I get sick of hearing people apply names with no significance or meaning to arbitrary groups of people.

The word "liberal" is typically used to mean "everyone with beleifs noticably different than my own", which a pretty damn useless description.

American liberalism is the socialist/communist, anti-capitalist left. Who have also taken over the environmentalist movement as a means of fighting capitalism.

I didn't invent the term, I have used it in the proper way given the way it has evolved in the 20th century.

Previous to that, liberalism was libertarianism.

I did not use the term arbitrarily.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Amused
Who says liberalism isn't just as oppressive as the religious right?

I love how people invent these stupid labels and apply them to whoever they like. WTF is "liberalism" anyway? Do you talk to a lot of people call themselves "liberals" or "liberalists", or whatever someone who "practices "liberalism" would be called?

The people trying to get you to give up eating meat to save the planet are called "environmentalists". You can disagree with them all you want, but I get sick of hearing people apply names with no significance or meaning to arbitrary groups of people.

The word "liberal" is typically used to mean "everyone with beleifs noticably different than my own", which a pretty damn useless description.

The word is used by him because he hates anyone with liberal "logics". He's a bigot.
And also has little understanding of how politics works.
Left and righty doesn't really make sense, the scale is supoposed to look like this. Look under "International Chart.

I'm a libertarian. That does not mean I do not know what American liberaism means. Most hard core activist type American liberals would fall under the authoritarian left... exactly where Gore falls. In fact, I have not met a single environmental activist who was not a strong socialist/communist.
 

KarmaPolice

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Give up prime rib....no way.

Serioulsy..I think I eat meat in pretty much every meal.

Except like pasta and PJ...

even pasta can have meat...

and pj...


 

Wag

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I'm giving up vegetables! I believe plants have feelings.

Meat? Screw them cows!
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Give up prime rib....no way.

Serioulsy..I think I eat meat in pretty much every meal.

Except like pasta and PJ...

even pasta can have meat...

and pj...

what exactly is PJ? Peanut butter and Jelly? If not I wanna know what it is so I can figure out how to eat it with meat.


 

aidanjm

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Sure, I am happy to eat vegetarian. I guess that means I care more about the planet we live on than everyone else in this thread. :p
 
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Sure, I am happy to eat vegetarian. I guess that means I care more about the planet we live on than everyone else in this thread. :p

<insert long string of analogies involving meat, sausage, weiners, etc>

- M4H
 

Arkitech

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how about getting the goverment to give up its reliance on fossil burning fuels?

in the meantime I'll continue to finish off my grilled shrimp
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Sure, I am happy to eat vegetarian. I guess that means I care more about the planet we live on than everyone else in this thread. :p

Plants help the envoirment, they cycle oxygen and have all sorts of Scientific value, stuff I could elaborate on if I hadn't attended California public schools. Cows on the other hand, kill the envoirment with their stank breath.
So by eating plants you are doing damage to the world! I eat Rib Eye, not because I like steak, but because I know if cows don't get eaten up they will burp away the Ozone.

I am truely selfless...
 

TallBill

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Animals have been eating animals for a long time. Not a chance that I'll break that tradition.