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plastick

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A sick man turned to his doctor, as he was preparing to leave the
examination room and said, "Doctor, I am afraid to die. Tell me what lies on the other side."

Very quietly, the doctor said, "I don't know."

"You don't know? You, a Christian man, do not know what is on the other side?"

The doctor was holding the handle of the door; on the other side of which came a sound of scratching and whining, and as he opened the door, a dog sprang into the room and leaped on him with an eager show of gladness.

Turning to the patient, the doctor said, "Did you notice my dog?
He's never been in this room before. He didn't know what was inside. He knew nothing except that his master was here, and when the door opened, he sprang in without fear. I know little of what is on the other side of death, but I do know one thing...I know my Master is there and that is enough."
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?

The correct answer (or clarification) there would be that science doesn't have an answer YET. That's not to say that someday it won't. We may come to find that our understanding of what the universe actually is needs to be expanded beyond the concept of everything resulting from the Big Bang.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: plastick
A sick man turned to his doctor, as he was preparing to leave the
examination room and said, "Doctor, I am afraid to die. Tell me what lies on the other side."

Very quietly, the doctor said, "I don't know."

"You don't know? You, a Christian man, do not know what is on the other side?"

The doctor was holding the handle of the door; on the other side of which came a sound of scratching and whining, and as he opened the door, a dog sprang into the room and leaped on him with an eager show of gladness.

Turning to the patient, the doctor said, "Did you notice my dog?
He's never been in this room before. He didn't know what was inside. He knew nothing except that his master was here, and when the door opened, he sprang in without fear. I know little of what is on the other side of death, but I do know one thing...I know my Master is there and that is enough."

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I always enjoy reading sappy religious anecdotes. BTW I was waiting for the punchline.
 

VictorLazlo

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The big Off Topic forum in the sky...

Where there are no nazi's or flamers, and everyone wants to know what YOU think.
 

WinkOsmosis

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You go in the grave. Man made up religion so he wouldn't have to deal with death, like you are using religion to do now. Don't ask if you don't want to know.
 

Slaimus

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Does anyone else want to believe that we all go somewhere and are reunited with family and friends? I do lol.

But who will it be up to to make that decision? What if you want to be together with a friend but s/he does not want to be with you, or the other way around?
 

plastick

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You go in the grave. Man made up religion so he wouldn't have to deal with death, like you are using religion to do now. Don't ask if you don't want to know.

A lot of religion is made up my man, but those of us who believe in Jesus Christ know the truth. Don't convince yourself that there is no God and there is nothing after death. It is appointed for man to die once, and then comes the judgement.
 

imported_yovonbishop

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Originally posted by: plastick
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You go in the grave. Man made up religion so he wouldn't have to deal with death, like you are using religion to do now. Don't ask if you don't want to know.

A lot of religion is made up my man, but those of us who believe in Jesus Christ know the truth. Don't convince yourself that there is no God and there is nothing after death. It is appointed for man to die once, and then comes the judgement.

not that I condemn religion or anything, but when you say that you BELIEVE in something and it is therefore true, then that does not qualify as being evidence of truth or fact or anything of that matter. It's called hope or faith.. something along those lines. Yes, Jesus existed at one point. You believe in God, that does not make him real, that just makes you have faith in something that may or may not be real. Who is to say what is real and what isn't? And as for the original question, I don't think anyone will actually know the truth about anything until their time comes if there is anything like a judgement day or whatnot. But who knows, once you're dead, that could very well be it.
 

plastick

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Originally posted by: yovonbishop
Originally posted by: plastick
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You go in the grave. Man made up religion so he wouldn't have to deal with death, like you are using religion to do now. Don't ask if you don't want to know.

A lot of religion is made up my man, but those of us who believe in Jesus Christ know the truth. Don't convince yourself that there is no God and there is nothing after death. It is appointed for man to die once, and then comes the judgement.

not that I condemn religion or anything, but when you say that you BELIEVE in something and it is therefore true, then that does not qualify as being evidence of truth or fact or anything of that matter. It's called hope or faith.. something along those lines. Yes, Jesus existed at one point. You believe in God, that does not make him real, that just makes you have faith in something that may or may not be real. Who is to say what is real and what isn't? And as for the original question, I don't think anyone will actually know the truth about anything until their time comes if there is anything like a judgement day or whatnot. But who knows, once you're dead, that could very well be it.

Oh dude I totally know what you mean. I understand the concept and before I got saved I thought this way too. But Jesus Christ really did die for us and He really is alive and there really is salvation in Him and Him alone. When you accept him into your heart and the spirit of God really comes and dwells in you and makes you alive, you know. You just know that you know that you know! Until then, you always won't know truth about things, just as you were saying above.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Abhi
If you ve been bad.... AT Politics and News....

"If you ve been bad.... AT Politics and News" <----------- Hehehe

Seriously though, Sorry for your loss :(

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azncoffeeboi

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Originally posted by: jinduy
we go to the earth

all is one, one is all

LOL somebodies been watching Full Metal Alchemist :D

Although they do bring up some interesting points about life....
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: plastick
Originally posted by: yovonbishop
Originally posted by: plastick
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You go in the grave. Man made up religion so he wouldn't have to deal with death, like you are using religion to do now. Don't ask if you don't want to know.

A lot of religion is made up my man, but those of us who believe in Jesus Christ know the truth. Don't convince yourself that there is no God and there is nothing after death. It is appointed for man to die once, and then comes the judgement.

not that I condemn religion or anything, but when you say that you BELIEVE in something and it is therefore true, then that does not qualify as being evidence of truth or fact or anything of that matter. It's called hope or faith.. something along those lines. Yes, Jesus existed at one point. You believe in God, that does not make him real, that just makes you have faith in something that may or may not be real. Who is to say what is real and what isn't? And as for the original question, I don't think anyone will actually know the truth about anything until their time comes if there is anything like a judgement day or whatnot. But who knows, once you're dead, that could very well be it.

Oh dude I totally know what you mean. I understand the concept and before I got saved I thought this way too. But Jesus Christ really did die for us and He really is alive and there really is salvation in Him and Him alone. When you accept him into your heart and the spirit of God really comes and dwells in you and makes you alive, you know. You just know that you know that you know! Until then, you always won't know truth about things, just as you were saying above.

I guess the billions of people in the world who are religious but don't believe in JC are pretty much fvcked, huh?
 

Josephus

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My 10 year old son asked me today if there would be TV in heaven :)

It seems like you're looking for proof to justify faith in an enternal life?

I believe we all live on with whatever relationship we have developed with God (name your name for the Supreme Power). My own mystical experinces lead me to believe that when all else is missing the precence of God will be more than enough. No TV, no computers, no food... just a more powerful and peaceful existence than any drug can deliver.

So the question is.. did your Grandfather have a belief system that included God. If so, believe that it will continue and be pleasing in the next life. If there was no relationship, there may be a dramatic sense of loneliness... because all the matierial things in this existence are gone.

I don't buy into the metaphorical lake of fire and eternal damnation, just a sense of aloneness. Wihout God here... without God there.
 

azazyel

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Originally posted by: plastick
Originally posted by: yovonbishop
Originally posted by: plastick
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
You go in the grave. Man made up religion so he wouldn't have to deal with death, like you are using religion to do now. Don't ask if you don't want to know.

A lot of religion is made up my man, but those of us who believe in Jesus Christ know the truth. Don't convince yourself that there is no God and there is nothing after death. It is appointed for man to die once, and then comes the judgement.

not that I condemn religion or anything, but when you say that you BELIEVE in something and it is therefore true, then that does not qualify as being evidence of truth or fact or anything of that matter. It's called hope or faith.. something along those lines. Yes, Jesus existed at one point. You believe in God, that does not make him real, that just makes you have faith in something that may or may not be real. Who is to say what is real and what isn't? And as for the original question, I don't think anyone will actually know the truth about anything until their time comes if there is anything like a judgement day or whatnot. But who knows, once you're dead, that could very well be it.

Oh dude I totally know what you mean. I understand the concept and before I got saved I thought this way too. But Jesus Christ really did die for us and He really is alive and there really is salvation in Him and Him alone. When you accept him into your heart and the spirit of God really comes and dwells in you and makes you alive, you know. You just know that you know that you know! Until then, you always won't know truth about things, just as you were saying above.

Dude, you just made me cringe. I mean, you sound like you were friggen brainwashed. I gotta find another word to use to describe my faith than Christian.
 

plastick

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Dude, you just made me cringe. I mean, you sound like you were friggen brainwashed. I gotta find another word to use to describe my faith than Christian.

I know that it might seem that way at first appearance. But God doesn't want you to be just a "good person" by not sining. What He wants is to give you a completely new life with God in the center. I have been given a completely new life with God because I love Jesus with all my heart. In the beginning, God made everything perfect, and He intended it to stay perfect. But becasue of sin, you can see that the world is the complete opposite of that. And in this new God-given life, among many other things, it includes restoration. God restores His followers. He heals the mind and the body; He mends broken hearts, and He takes away our burdens so that we can be free from the bondage of our old life so that we can worship Him and recieve all that He has planned for our lives. Just as colors like black and white, there is a contrast between people who are being saved by God and people who are lost and far from God.

Thats why it sounds like I am "brain washed." I am washed clean from the pain and filth of my old life.
 

plastick

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On a second note... Don't confuse someone who is being restored and renewed by God with someone who is obsessing over such thigs as modern "End Times Prophecy," and conspiracy theories, etc. People get wrapped up in all kinds of crazy things and its especially easy for us Christians to get mixed up in that sort of stuff too.. Then its even easier for someone like you look at someone who is a Christian spewing off all sorts of things about that stuff rather than about repentance, Gods love and forgiveness. There IS a difference between someone who is crazy in love with the Lord, and the just plain crazy.

I hope you can see my point here...
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: DWW
The part that always gets me is this...

(I was raised Christian so religious views aside)



Time always existed before us. Before the universe. It is infinite in either direction in my opinion. Even when the universe collapses, there will still be time (not in the sense we measure by the stars) forever. And before God (God itself is debatable) there was always time infinitely in that direction.



So if you think about it there was an eternity before you came to be :confused: and there will be an eternity after you die :confused: ... or some crazy stuff :) Ignore me its 3:31AM here but yeah I always think about that.



It is infinite in either direction and when you were born, thats it, thats the beginning of the universe to you but (IMO) time always existed...which is ....... confusing? err yeah



So when I get really into it...for some reason, I believe God must exist :)


Space cannot exist without time, nor time without space.

When I said "time" don't think about it in the conventional sense (yes in that sense it cannot exist without space).

Think of it like this: How long was it before the universe came to exist (through big bang or other means) ? An eternity.
 

FiLeZz

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If we knew the awnser to that we could become very rich..


I does not matter where we go ..
It matters what we have done while we were here..