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remagavon

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: LeStEr
I dont think there is any afterlife, when you die you go to sleep and dont wake up.

Yep... Anyone been on anesthesia before, the gas that makes you sleep? That really made me feel like I just ceased to exist. I was gone for about an hour, and when I woke up, I could actually feel that the time has passed, but that one hour I was gone is like this blank spot in my memory. I have a feeling dying is the same thing.

Exactly, I felt the same thing; but they gave me morphine beforehand so it was more like I od'd and killed myself than slowly drifted away:p
 

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Blindly knocking, or supporting faith is going to leave the knocker or supporter with only a fragile opinion of things. Faith based upon only one's upbringing is sure to be stretched in times of need, because it's based on little else but habit. Similarly it's safe to say that most athiests haven't truly thought deeply about anything, and choose the simpler road, less stressful towards athieism. Soul-searching (no pun intended!) and reading will help bring one to a more steadfast personal philosophy or belief.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: notfred
I think we rot away in a hole in the ground, personally.

I agree.

... Where do other living beings go when they die? I have no reason to believe that we go to any place other than the one they do.

You mean there is not a doggie heaven? Mommy lied to me?:(
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: DWW
The part that always gets me is this...

(I was raised Christian so religious views aside)



Time always existed before us. Before the universe. It is infinite in either direction in my opinion. Even when the universe collapses, there will still be time (not in the sense we measure by the stars) forever. And before God (God itself is debatable) there was always time infinitely in that direction.



So if you think about it there was an eternity before you came to be :confused: and there will be an eternity after you die :confused: ... or some crazy stuff :) Ignore me its 3:31AM here but yeah I always think about that.



It is infinite in either direction and when you were born, thats it, thats the beginning of the universe to you but (IMO) time always existed...which is ....... confusing? err yeah



So when I get really into it...for some reason, I believe God must exist :)

The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
 

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The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?

vacuum fluctuations
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?

vacuum fluctuations

broom variances
 

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?

vacuum fluctuations
That's not an answer.
 

PatboyX

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The parasites are excited when you're dead
Eyes bulging ants are in your head
and all your thoughts yeah they rot
God And Satan they gamble when you're dead
beams of light one's bright the other's burning instead
and all your thoughts yeah they rot
it Was hot and time was sticking to my skin
to all the punch lines of the jokes they wont let us in on
and all your thoughts yeah they rot
 

Nanotech

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I believe we live another life based on our actions in this life. Actually, I don't know what I believe but this philosophy has crossed my mind and I do believe in Karma.
 

Legendary

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?

vacuum fluctuations
That's not an answer.

A new theory is that the collapse of the universe before our own caused the big bang that created our universe.
Still, that's not an answer, just an infinite loop of universes.
 

ThePresence

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Maybe I'm dense, but I don't understand this thing that TIME exists. Isn't time just our way of measuring how we get older?
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?

vacuum fluctuations
That's not an answer.

OK. The existance of nothing caused vacuum fluctuations that triggered the big bang.
 

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Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The accepted scientific view, I believe, is that time itself was created at the moment of the Big Bang.
Science doesn't have an answer for it. Science relies upon cause and effect. What actually caused the big bang? Science has a hell of a time tracing back to the beginning, because for a beginning to occur something had to trigger it. And what was around to trigger that thing that triggered the big bang?

vacuum fluctuations
That's not an answer.

A new theory is that the collapse of the universe before our own caused the big bang that created our universe.
Still, that's not an answer, just an infinite loop of universes.
Yes, if that's true, somewhere somehow everything either began, or it always was. If it just "began", what occured to trigger its beginning? Science just cannot answer that, because something else must have caused that previous condition, and you keep working backwards, never to find a true beginning, because really there isn't one.

 

rh71

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Originally posted by: notfred
I think we rot away in a hole in the ground, personally.
I don't believe in any religion but never thought of it this way either. It's cruel but think it's true.
 

jjones

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I'm not too sure but in other news, I heard about this new food product called Soylent Green that's supposed to be pretty tasty.
 

jinduy

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Originally posted by: jjones
I'm not too sure but in other news, I heard about this new food product called Soylent Green that's supposed to be pretty tasty.

it's actually pretty good. they have a nice spicy twist to it.
 

Nanotech

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Originally posted by: minendo
6 feet under or an urn.

Unless you donate your body to science which in turn sells your body to the government who in return blow your body up for experiemental explosive testing.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: DWW
The part that always gets me is this...

(I was raised Christian so religious views aside)



Time always existed before us. Before the universe. It is infinite in either direction in my opinion. Even when the universe collapses, there will still be time (not in the sense we measure by the stars) forever. And before God (God itself is debatable) there was always time infinitely in that direction.



So if you think about it there was an eternity before you came to be :confused: and there will be an eternity after you die :confused: ... or some crazy stuff :) Ignore me its 3:31AM here but yeah I always think about that.



It is infinite in either direction and when you were born, thats it, thats the beginning of the universe to you but (IMO) time always existed...which is ....... confusing? err yeah



So when I get really into it...for some reason, I believe God must exist :)


Space cannot exist without time, nor time without space.
 

samgau

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The ultimate question about the only certain thing in life.... The answers are as many as the multitude of cultures.... but maybe there is a fundamental truth, that all cultures/religions have a piece of the truth or a version of the truth, but which are so wrapped up in the layers upon layers of beliefs/ceremony/rules/laws/mysticism that they even seem to contradict each other, to the point that nobody can see what is at the core.

It comes down to what you believe in, and that will be your truth. I hope you find comfort in it.