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CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?


Thanks :) I tried it a different way since he obviously had trouble reading that the first time...

CsG
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?


Thanks :) I tried it a different way since he obviously had trouble reading that the first time...

CsG

Amazing how many people suddenly, or conveniently "forget" the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" so long as it fits their agenda.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: totalcommand
totalcommand's tripe snipped due to screwing up the tags

Bowfinger - see what I'm talking about? The tags were fine.

I'm just going to ignore your AP tripe - you are wrong - period. I did not question or attack the AP. Try getting that through your skull.

Typically conservative, everything is black and white. No evidence to back up their views. Ignores the implications of their views.

The authenticity has NOT been confirmed by anyone. Would you kindly show proof of it's authenticity since you keep claiming it has been?
Oh, and yes there are problems with anonymous sources - there is no integrity to the claims made. Why do you think many newspapers and other media outlets have curbed their use of anonymous sources? That's right - because it can't be verified.
It has nothing to do with paranoia - I could care less if the originals were authentic or not because they really don't say much, but these "copies" sure as hell haven't been authenticated due to them being retyped "copies" and the originals seem to have been destroyed(according to the AP's version of the story).

The AP reporter found the proof of authenticity of the content. If you had your way, Nixon would still be in office. But hey, I guess that's in line with your radical fringe conservative views.

Also, there was no slander anywhere in my post so your little whine about Conservatives fell way short.

Right, slandering the ANONYMOUS source simply because he's anonymous doesn't count. :roll:

Yes, these memos are unauthenticated and the Rathergate ones were discredited. Try to keep up here(which you might have been able to do if you hadn't been twisting in the wind with your duhversions.

It's spelled diversions. Memos have been authenticated by the AP, which you continue to ignore, simply because the AP's source is anonymous. :roll:

No where do the memos state that Bush was fixing intel around policy, but that sure is some nice kook fringe spin.

Ok, you decided to stay with slander, not the facts. I'll deal. Read the bolded part:

C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

Ah yes, the old poll canard. Wow, so people now don't think it was worth it - so? That doesn't mean we quit or admit defeat. It also doesn't mean soldiers are dying for a mistake - there is and always were MANY reasons for our actions there for you to continue with these disrespectful statements is repulsive.
You are NOT honoring the soldiers - you are using them as pawns to feed your hate of Bush.

You are dishonoring our soldiers by mindlessly sending them to war. They are real people, they deserve our respect. We should not throw their lives away as you would have to promote your conservative agenda. The fact that you support regime change irregardless of the presence of WMD's tells me that you have no value for the lives of our soldiers whatsoever.

I never said we should quit or admit defeat, but I guess you like baseless accusations. In fact, I think we should stay there for the long haul now that you cons have put our soldiers in this mess. I fully support their actions today.

The majority of the country thinks it was a mistake because so many soldiers have paid with their lives. But you don't care.

Now again - please show where these memos have been authenticated, then answer the OP - where are the memos;)

CsG


I've answered him, he won't find the originals. :laugh:
 

Steeplerot

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you "dead enders" are something else...is the kool-aid that sweet? you guys are like junkies hanging on for that last fix desperatly.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?

Too bad the AP has authenticated their content :frown:
 
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Too bad the AP has authenticated their content
and then the ?jew-controlled? media didn't report on it?
I don?t buy it, that?s big ratings if it means a thing.

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That buys you a month elsewhere.

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AnyMal

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?

Too bad the AP has authenticated their content :frown:

links?
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
you "dead enders" are something else...is the kool-aid that sweet? you guys are like junkies hanging on for that last fix desperatly.

sucks when you can't counter the point, doesn't it?
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?

Too bad the AP has authenticated their content :frown:

links?

Check the first page of this thread...isn't it your thread? CsG I think, and definitely I have it quoted somewhere.

edit: found it for you

The AP obtained copies of six of the memos (the other two have circulated widely). A senior British official who reviewed the copies said their content appeared authentic. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secret nature of the material.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: totalcommand
totalcommand's tripe snipped due to screwing up the tags

Bowfinger - see what I'm talking about? The tags were fine.

I'm just going to ignore your AP tripe - you are wrong - period. I did not question or attack the AP. Try getting that through your skull.

Typically conservative, everything is black and white. No evidence to back up their views. Ignores the implications of their views.

The authenticity has NOT been confirmed by anyone. Would you kindly show proof of it's authenticity since you keep claiming it has been?
Oh, and yes there are problems with anonymous sources - there is no integrity to the claims made. Why do you think many newspapers and other media outlets have curbed their use of anonymous sources? That's right - because it can't be verified.
It has nothing to do with paranoia - I could care less if the originals were authentic or not because they really don't say much, but these "copies" sure as hell haven't been authenticated due to them being retyped "copies" and the originals seem to have been destroyed(according to the AP's version of the story).

The AP reporter found the proof of authenticity of the content. If you had your way, Nixon would still be in office. But hey, I guess that's in line with your radical fringe conservative views.

Also, there was no slander anywhere in my post so your little whine about Conservatives fell way short.

Right, slandering the ANONYMOUS source simply because he's anonymous doesn't count. :roll:

Yes, these memos are unauthenticated and the Rathergate ones were discredited. Try to keep up here(which you might have been able to do if you hadn't been twisting in the wind with your duhversions.

It's spelled diversions. Memos have been authenticated by the AP, which you continue to ignore, simply because the AP's source is anonymous. :roll:

No where do the memos state that Bush was fixing intel around policy, but that sure is some nice kook fringe spin.

Ok, you decided to stay with slander, not the facts. I'll deal. Read the bolded part:

C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

Ah yes, the old poll canard. Wow, so people now don't think it was worth it - so? That doesn't mean we quit or admit defeat. It also doesn't mean soldiers are dying for a mistake - there is and always were MANY reasons for our actions there for you to continue with these disrespectful statements is repulsive.
You are NOT honoring the soldiers - you are using them as pawns to feed your hate of Bush.

You are dishonoring our soldiers by mindlessly sending them to war. They are real people, they deserve our respect. We should not throw their lives away as you would have to promote your conservative agenda. The fact that you support regime change irregardless of the presence of WMD's tells me that you have no value for the lives of our soldiers whatsoever.

I never said we should quit or admit defeat, but I guess you like baseless accusations. In fact, I think we should stay there for the long haul now that you cons have put our soldiers in this mess. I fully support their actions today.

The majority of the country thinks it was a mistake because so many soldiers have paid with their lives. But you don't care.

Now again - please show where these memos have been authenticated, then answer the OP - where are the memos;)

CsG


I've answered him, he won't find the originals. :laugh:

Um, again, the AP has not authenticated anything and you have not provided any proof of such authentication.

So you think that one guy making a claim about Bush somehow makes it true? The guy put opinion in the place of fact - the memos do not provide any proof that this is the case- only this one guy's opinion. Wow, I guess it's suddenly "truth" :roll:

No, I'm not dishonoring anyone - let alone "mindlessly" doing anything.
Again, you are dishonoring by suggesting their lives were thrown away. I'm sure the widows, children, or other family would love to hear you telling them that their lives were thrown away.:roll:
Regime change was our policy long before Bush came into office, and there are many reasons why doing so is not only just, but necessary. Just because you don't think the war was just doesn't make that fact or "truth" - it's just your opinion.

Yeah, laugh away about the originals - now you and the leftists can make all sorts of claims you know you can't and won't have to back up. How convenient. Why not try using the truth first instead of relying on these "fake but accurate" games?

CsG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?

Too bad the AP has authenticated their content :frown:

links?

Check the first page of this thread...isn't it your thread? CsG I think, and definitely I have it quoted somewhere.

edit: found it for you

The AP obtained copies of six of the memos (the other two have circulated widely). A senior British official who reviewed the copies said their content appeared authentic. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secret nature of the material.

Nope, no authentication there - just anonymous conjecture.

Please provide PROOF. We won't be holding our breaths.

CsG
 

umbrella39

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And again, why do you 2 now, keep parroting the same thing over and over? Again...

Its authenticity has neither been confirmed nor denied by the British government, though Downing Street has stated the document contains "nothing new". Apparently none of us on the board live on Downing Street nor did we ever have access to the originals. So why is it you keep asking us to produce something you know we personally can't? Since we can't do that, you keep insisting they don't/never existed. Don't that have a name for that kind of argument????
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?

Too bad the AP has authenticated their content :frown:

links?

Check the first page of this thread...isn't it your thread? CsG I think, and definitely I have it quoted somewhere.

edit: found it for you

The AP obtained copies of six of the memos (the other two have circulated widely). A senior British official who reviewed the copies said their content appeared authentic. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secret nature of the material.

Nope, no authentication there - just anonymous conjecture.

Please provide PROOF. We won't be holding our breaths.

CsG

The AP obtained copies of six of the memos (the other two have circulated widely). A senior British official who reviewed the copies said their content appeared authentic. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secret nature of the material.

There's your proof. Just need to remove your blinders.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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So in the spirit of "debate" style many here use, can they prove that these memos aren't true?
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Pedro69
So tell me CsG why is it that Bush denies to respond to the accusations? If they are not authentic Bush shouldn't have a problem with that, don't you think?

I'll take the liberty and will copy what he just replied above. Hope he won't mind:

Umm... just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean the accused has to respond or deny. In this case there is no reason for them to reply until the real memos appear and have been authenticated. All we have at this point are some memos that were retyped by a "reporter" who then (by some accounts) destroyed the originals(there is a story now that he destroyed the working photocopy he had of the original).
But yeah, it's great spin to make the claim that they must be real if no one is denying them...:p


satisified?

Too bad the AP has authenticated their content :frown:

links?

Check the first page of this thread...isn't it your thread? CsG I think, and definitely I have it quoted somewhere.

edit: found it for you

The AP obtained copies of six of the memos (the other two have circulated widely). A senior British official who reviewed the copies said their content appeared authentic. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secret nature of the material.

Nope, no authentication there - just anonymous conjecture.

Please provide PROOF. We won't be holding our breaths.

CsG
Darn! Got my hopes up for a minute? Perhaps, we should search Area 51?
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
So in the spirit of "debate" style many here use, can they prove that these memos aren't true?

I won't be holding my breathe. ;)
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: AnyMalDarn! Got my hopes up for a minute? Perhaps, we should search Area 51?


And again, why do you 2 now, keep parroting the same thing over and over? Again...

Its authenticity has neither been confirmed nor denied by the British government, though Downing Street has stated the document contains "nothing new". Apparently none of us on the board live on Downing Street nor did we ever have access to the originals. So why is it you keep asking us to produce something you know we personally can't? Since we can't do that, you keep insisting they don't/never existed. Don't that have a name for that kind of argument????


 

AnyMal

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
So in the spirit of "debate" style many here use, can they prove that these memos aren't true?

This is getting old. really. For the bazillionth time, before proving something as false, you've got to prove it exists in the first place.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
So in the spirit of "debate" style many here use, can they prove that these memos aren't true?

This is getting old. really. For the bazillionth time, before proving something as false, you've got to prove it exists in the first place.


And again, why do you 2 now, keep parroting the same thing over and over? Again...

Its authenticity has neither been confirmed nor denied by the British government, though Downing Street has stated the document contains "nothing new". Apparently none of us on the board live on Downing Street nor did we ever have access to the originals. So why is it you keep asking us to produce something you know we personally can't? Since we can't do that, you keep insisting they don't/never existed. Don't that have a name for that kind of argument????


 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
And again, why do you 2 now, keep parroting the same thing over and over? Again...

Its authenticity has neither been confirmed nor denied by the British government, though Downing Street has stated the document contains "nothing new". Apparently none of us on the board live on Downing Street nor did we ever have access to the originals. So why is it you keep asking us to produce something you know we personally can't? Since we can't do that, you keep insisting they don't/never existed. Don't that have a name for that kind of argument????

Well, then please inform people to not use these memos as anything more than unverified claims. ;)

CsG
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: AnyMalDarn! Got my hopes up for a minute? Perhaps, we should search Area 51?


And again, why do you 2 now, keep parroting the same thing over and over? Again...

Its authenticity has neither been confirmed nor denied by the British government, though Downing Street has stated the document contains "nothing new". Apparently none of us on the board live on Downing Street nor did we ever have access to the originals. So why is it you keep asking us to produce something you know we personally can't? Since we can't do that, you keep insisting they don't/never existed. Don't that have a name for that kind of argument????

Again, I'll help you out here. How many threads to we have going discussing these supposed DSM's. What's wrong with one questioning their existence? What are you affraid of?
 

umbrella39

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That is what I am kind of saying, too, CAD. This thread is useless. Non of us are privied so why continue to beat a dead horse. I don't put much stock in anything I can't see for myself either, but I will let it all play out gladly. If it turns out to be BS, then there are a lot of people going to be eating crow. If they prove true, the same, just other people and other crows ;)
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
The AP obtained copies of six of the memos (the other two have circulated widely). A senior British official who reviewed the copies said their content appeared authentic. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secret nature of the material.

There's your proof. Just need to remove your blinders.

anonymous official: "appeared authentic" != proof or authentication

But I guess in a leftist's "fake but accurate" world it might pass :p

CsG
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: totalcommand
totalcommand's tripe snipped due to screwing up the tags

Bowfinger - see what I'm talking about? The tags were fine.

I'm just going to ignore your AP tripe - you are wrong - period. I did not question or attack the AP. Try getting that through your skull.

Typically conservative, everything is black and white. No evidence to back up their views. Ignores the implications of their views.

The authenticity has NOT been confirmed by anyone. Would you kindly show proof of it's authenticity since you keep claiming it has been?
Oh, and yes there are problems with anonymous sources - there is no integrity to the claims made. Why do you think many newspapers and other media outlets have curbed their use of anonymous sources? That's right - because it can't be verified.
It has nothing to do with paranoia - I could care less if the originals were authentic or not because they really don't say much, but these "copies" sure as hell haven't been authenticated due to them being retyped "copies" and the originals seem to have been destroyed(according to the AP's version of the story).

The AP reporter found the proof of authenticity of the content. If you had your way, Nixon would still be in office. But hey, I guess that's in line with your radical fringe conservative views.

Also, there was no slander anywhere in my post so your little whine about Conservatives fell way short.

Right, slandering the ANONYMOUS source simply because he's anonymous doesn't count. :roll:

Yes, these memos are unauthenticated and the Rathergate ones were discredited. Try to keep up here(which you might have been able to do if you hadn't been twisting in the wind with your duhversions.

It's spelled diversions. Memos have been authenticated by the AP, which you continue to ignore, simply because the AP's source is anonymous. :roll:

No where do the memos state that Bush was fixing intel around policy, but that sure is some nice kook fringe spin.

Ok, you decided to stay with slander, not the facts. I'll deal. Read the bolded part:

C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

Ah yes, the old poll canard. Wow, so people now don't think it was worth it - so? That doesn't mean we quit or admit defeat. It also doesn't mean soldiers are dying for a mistake - there is and always were MANY reasons for our actions there for you to continue with these disrespectful statements is repulsive.
You are NOT honoring the soldiers - you are using them as pawns to feed your hate of Bush.

You are dishonoring our soldiers by mindlessly sending them to war. They are real people, they deserve our respect. We should not throw their lives away as you would have to promote your conservative agenda. The fact that you support regime change irregardless of the presence of WMD's tells me that you have no value for the lives of our soldiers whatsoever.

I never said we should quit or admit defeat, but I guess you like baseless accusations. In fact, I think we should stay there for the long haul now that you cons have put our soldiers in this mess. I fully support their actions today.

The majority of the country thinks it was a mistake because so many soldiers have paid with their lives. But you don't care.

Now again - please show where these memos have been authenticated, then answer the OP - where are the memos;)

CsG


I've answered him, he won't find the originals. :laugh:

Um, again, the AP has not authenticated anything and you have not provided any proof of such authentication.
The AP obtained copies of six of the memos (the other two have circulated widely). A senior British official who reviewed the copies said their content appeared authentic. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secret nature of the material.
So you think that one guy making a claim about Bush somehow makes it true? The guy put opinion in the place of fact - the memos do not provide any proof that this is the case- only this one guy's opinion. Wow, I guess it's suddenly "truth" :roll:

So you admit the memos are real? Oh I'm sorry, you like to play word games. You admit the content of the memos is real? There are several memos, and this isn't just some guy, it is a guy that had contact with Bush administration officials.

No, I'm not dishonoring anyone - let alone "mindlessly" doing anything.
Again, you are dishonoring by suggesting their lives were thrown away. I'm sure the widows, children, or other family would love to hear you telling them that their lives were thrown away.:roll:

I'm not suggesting their lives were thrown away. I'm suggesting that Bush used the soldiers as pawns for his conservative agenda. I'm sure the widows, children, and veterans would love to hear you telling them that you would throw their lives away to further your agenda. But, of course, you would just lie to the widows and children to further your agenda anyways.

Regime change was our policy long before Bush came into office, and there are many reasons why doing so is not only just, but necessary. Just because you don't think the war was just doesn't make that fact or "truth" - it's just your opinion.

Not just mine, it's the majority of Americans. Regime change was never our policy in Iraq. Why do you think the Bush Administration did their media push using WMD's instead of regime change? Because Americans do not support regime change in Iraq just for the sake of regime change.

Yeah, laugh away about the originals - now you and the leftists can make all sorts of claims you know you can't and won't have to back up. How convenient. Why not try using the truth first instead of relying on these "fake but accurate" games?

CsG

Let me try out a CsG tactic here. YOU'RE the one who's saying theyre fake. Not ME. YOU. I think they are ACCURATE. I am not playing GAMES.

Anyhow, the AP has confirmed their authenticity using their ANONYMOUS source.

Maybe you should stop relying on your "slander first, issues later" tactics. They aren't working.