In case you haven't noticed he doesn't like it at all when confronted with his own hypocrisy, it confuses him.
In case you haven't noticed he doesn't like it at all when confronted with his own hypocrisy, it confuses him.
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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Learn to read: "you and the other guy are asking for the originals only because you know they do not exist. this is a great tactic, but is the definition of disingenuous."
You opened this thread to take a crap on the whole issue. The premise of this thread is B.S. At least CsG makes arguments to back up his statements, but you just keep spewing from your bowels. As CsG eloquently puts it, here's something to refuel yourself:
If you don't like me confronting you on your B.S., leave your thread.
The premise of this thread is a valid question: "do these memos exist?" I realize the you prefer bullsh1t over truth since it fits your agenda the best. Just like anything you libs do, half-truths and outright lies are OK as long as they serve their purpose. Nice trolling, but I don't buy your BS.
The "premise" of the thread is not "do these memos exist". The premise is the accuracy of what is IN the memos. Something that you, Cad and the others on the right have skewed from the beginning because you have nothing to stand on in regards to that. So you go on and on about whether the memos exist all the while knowing that you would have to admit that you have been willing suckered and sold snake oil by this administration by the truckload and you can't unload it anymore.
Please stop trying to argue something that no one is arguing about. We are not going to let you try to frame the argument into something that you know is disingenuous and patently misleading. The originals DO NOT exist. They were destroyed to protect the source. Why? Maybe the letterhead had his/her name on it? Maybe the letterhead was a person that has only one or two staff members that have access to these documents and that would just as easily identify them? No one know for sure but the reporter and the source know the exact reason. Guess what? No one else cares because the damaging item isn't the memo itself....IT IS THE CONTENT OF THE MEMO!!!
Now that that is cleared up. Would any of you care to actually debate the actual topic? The topic that everyone else seems to have been able to grasp....that the minutes of these reports state that the Bush administration was intent on going into Iraq regardless of what the intel and the rest of the world said and they were going to find a way to justify it. Please try to stay on topic from now on and quit obfuscating and try to make a compelling argument, if you can.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
So are we in control of all the Iraqi WMD?
No, of course not. The Russians, Germans, and French prevented such control.
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
So are we in control of all the Iraqi WMD?
No, of course not. The Russians, Germans, and French prevented such control.
So Bush is an idiot who had a stupid plan in the first place.
Oh surprise the left jumping on the ASSumption train again without proof?
Think you guys would figure it out after being burned so much.
Think you guys would figure it out after being burned so much.
Original, now you need to get into a time machine and convince the UN in 2002 to drop sanctions against Iraq.
Guys I have come across a memo that prove Bush and Blair should have thought there was WMD in Iraq.
This is just typing it up but later tonight I should have a verifiable copy of it.
Confidential
Date Oct 13th 2002
Iraqi Defense Ministry
Bagdhad, Iraq
Dear Bush, Blair
I have WMDs and I dare you to come get them!
Love,
Saddam
P.S. Pussies!
Confidential
I got this from an anon source and have destroyed the originals. I presented this to a White House official and they didnt deny or confirm it so it has to be true.
This is just typing it up but later tonight I should have a verifiable copy of it.
Confidential
Date Oct 13th 2002
Iraqi Defense Ministry
Bagdhad, Iraq
Dear Bush, Blair
I have WMDs and I dare you to come get them!
Love,
Saddam
P.S. Pussies!
Confidential
I got this from an anon source and have destroyed the originals. I presented this to a White House official and they didnt deny or confirm it so it has to be true.
I can't wait to see McClennen referring to this memo in his next press conference.
"We have our own source that has provided us with a memo that states that we were justified in going into Iraq".
LMAO, as the saying goes "consider the source". You really know how to make a valid point.
Oh, I have a memo that has Saddam claiming he destroyed all his WMD's.
Why hasn't teh British goverment denied the allegations? I guess that would be too simple.
Politics as usual. I would still like to see a denial regarding the memo's before I wrote them off.
Do you believe in God? If so, where is your proof that he exists? If you have no real, tangible proof, why do you believe in something that doesn't exist and base your life around such a fallacy?
I am wondering if a memo, that comes from three parties removed from the situation, that has been transcribed, that actually no longer physically exists, would hold water in any court?
I am guessing that it would not make a very strong stand. I am also guessing that the person(s) that attempted to offer it as evidence would either be charged with perjury or libel.
I am guessing that it would not make a very strong stand. I am also guessing that the person(s) that attempted to offer it as evidence would either be charged with perjury or libel.
1. Source leaks document from government to reporter.
2. Reporter retypes them to protect source's identity (leaking documents is not protected under law in the U.K.).
3. Reporter puts out the memos in the newspaper for the world to see.
4. The Blair administration doesn't question the veracity of the memos or their authenticity.
5. The originals still exist. What's the problem?
2. Reporter retypes them to protect source's identity (leaking documents is not protected under law in the U.K.).
3. Reporter puts out the memos in the newspaper for the world to see.
4. The Blair administration doesn't question the veracity of the memos or their authenticity.
5. The originals still exist. What's the problem?
Originals are apparently destroyed according to the man who copied them.
Credibility is crap at that point.
HIS originals are destroyed. Is it not possible that the memos in question were circulated to more than one person? Use common sense. The memos had to be put out to a number of people. Otherwise, there would be no need for the shroud of secrecy.
The best part about wild conspiracy theories is anything "can" happen.
We can be invaded by Aliens tomorrow, has the White House denied it? Then it must be true!
Here is another possible scenario. The guy simple made them up.
Hey! It's even possible the aliens have already invaded the Whitehouse and taken over the entire administration. At least that would explain why they're taking us down such a destructive road.
I doubt they'll admit it, but it makes at least as much sense as anything AnyMal has posted. :roll:
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