So what should we do with John Walker (the American kid who fought with the Taliban), columnist says let him go

[b0mbrman]

The Taliban didn't exist when they were fighting Russia. The Mujahideen (from which Al Qaeda was born) were the "good guys"

 

[jthsmak]

<< "the act but they do not for one second enjoy it. "

how can you possibly speak for all executioners. I bet some of em like it. >>


True, they may in fact do it for murderous satisfaction and not a sense of justice, I must be presumptuous.



<< Most of the taliban were from Pakistan originally, and the Al-Qaeda are comprised of many nationalities, with Saudis the majority/plularity I believe. If anyone is fighting for their homeland it's the NA. >>


Their religion is intermixed with many of the nations in the region. It unites them and can be seen as a form of treaty. Or perhaps they felt in danger, maybe even next in line.

 

[Capn]

Cyberian, no that was Muhajadeen.

"Their religion is intermixed with many of the nations in the region. It unites them and can be seen as a form of treaty. Or perhaps they felt in danger, maybe even next in line. "

Thanks, and what did that have to do with the idea of fighting for one's homeland?

 

[KingHam]

He obviously made a stupid decision. Decisions have consequences. He must now face the consequences in court.

KingHam

 

[OutHouse]

Section. 3.

Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Clause 2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Before you people start to shred the constitution and make you own versions of it I posted the only crime you can be punished for written in the constitiution.

 

[HOWITIS]

i say we give him a painful and extremly long death. at least thats what i'd do if given the chance

 

[charrison]

he had an option to talk to the agents during his first interview. he declined to say anything, so he cannot claim igornorance at that point. The case for treason will be simple. He is talking now, so maybe his life should be spared, but he still deserves some time in levinworth.

 

[Rudee]

<< The standard punishment for this sort of thing is execution. >>



That would be too simple. How about using him for really authentic movie stunts?

 

[AndrewR]

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Let's see -- he retained his weapons and fought against a side in the conflict which was being directly supported by the United States, to include the use of U.S. Army Special Forces who undoubtedly fought right alongside the Northern Alliance troops. As well, he was a part of the Taliban lines when American aircraft were bombing their positions. Further, he was involved in a prison riot which led to the death of an American CIA agent.

I would certainly call that "levying War against" the United States and its interests. At the point when the United States entered the fight, that bastard became a traitor. A fitting punishment? He needs to "attempt to escape" from Camp Rhino. The Marines would certainly take the appropriate measures.

 

[swayinOtis]

i think he should made into a pig masturbator/spooge collector.

yes, there are people out there that have to milk hogs for breeding. since he probably hates swine i think this would be adequate punishment for turning his back on his country!

 

[swayinOtis]

<< Charging Walker with treason would mean showing him less compassion than Taliban fighters who are being welcomed with open arms by Northern Alliance fighters, or Pakistani fighters who were flown back to their villages with tacit U.S. approval. >>



oh please, the fool turned his back on us so why should we not reciprocate?

the situation with the afghan fighters is different. a lot of them joined the taliban either for a job and a source of food and income, or out of fear. that's one reason why they are being welcomed back. and they might regret taking some of them back, too.

walker turned his back on his country. what more needs to be said. jeez, it's real simple. he deserves no sympathy.

 

[swayinOtis]

<< did he comit treason? im divided on that issue. he was fighting for the taliban before sept 11th. we dont evern know if he fired upon us forces.
>>



i think the very act of joining another country's military should be considered treason!

he was born in the us. it's not like he was born in afghanistan and went back to fight for his country. the us is his country.

 

[swayinOtis]

<< I dunno Citrix, maybe you should just go and join him if you love him sooo much. >>



LOL! It was funny in HS, it's still funny today.

 

[Grminalac]

John Walker is merely another case of a spoiled rich brat having to be different. He needed to find his "spirituality" so his parents supported the jobless douchebag's soul searching, and futhermore allowed him to go to the aid of a terrorist regime. The taliban he helped were not a religious group, they are merely a political group that uses religion to meet their end and stay in power. They, like so many of the other so called religious leaders of the middle east really only hate the U.S. for one reason. EDUCATION. Their greatest fear is that education will show their people how stupid it is to wrap their women up like mummies among other things...
Whats worse is the fact that unlike the uneducated soldiers of the middle east that have no real idea why they are fighting and exactly what the u.s. really stands for, John knew. With that he still decided to take arms against the country that tolerated his stupid antics in the first place. This fact puts him more at blame than those locals merely protecting their homes and way of life against a not understood threat.
Hey John, it might have been a better idea to join the peace corps, then again you would have probably had to work.

 

[AreaCode707]

<< i think the very act of joining another country's military should be considered treason! >>



What? IMO, that's very ignorant. If a citizen of our country serves in the military of a country allied with us to gain dual citizenship, is that treason? Sheesh. You make a wide generalization there, consider more possible situations.

 

[OutHouse]

i think the very act of joining another country's military should be considered treason!

well your wrong. you can however loose your citizenship by serving in another countries armed forces, but it is not treason if war has not been declaired.

for example. hundreds of AMERICANS joined the CANADIAN armed forces to fight the germans before the US got involved in WWII. are they traitors?

 

[swayinOtis]

<< I saw it on the news yesterday that someone who interviewed him actually said that he's an Al Qaeda member so he's in some really dipsh#t now. >>



i am not surprised he is al qaeda. he went to pakistan to study at one of those strict islamic schools. many al qaeda are recruited from those islamic schools. they don't just teach islamic fundamentalism. they teach anti-western ideology. that's why i have never felt sorry for this bastard walker. he didn't go over there on some innocent trip. he didn't get brainwashed.

 

[swayinOtis]

<<

<< i think the very act of joining another country's military should be considered treason! >>



What? IMO, that's very ignorant. If a citizen of our country serves in the military of a country allied with us to gain dual citizenship, is that treason? Sheesh. You make a wide generalization there, consider more possible situations. >>



like i said, he was not a dual citizen, so i consider his joining another country's military to be treasonous. he had no reason to go over there. i admit my language was weak and vague. sorry about that.

 

[Xenon14]

You can't just charge someone with treason. First of all in order for someone to be charged with treason, there needs to be at least 2 witness to him actually fighting against to US. There are none. Second, there must be an actual declaration of war agaisnt the opposing party that he's fighting with. There isn't any. Thirdly, he joined the Taliban before the fighting began ---he got in this mess before anything developed. So you can't even determine his intent, much less determine whether or not he fought against the US. I might not think he's a good person with moral beliefs, but under the law I don't think Treason applies to his situation.

 

[fake]

Execution.

 

[UberNeuman]

I believe John Walker should get a TNT enema...

 

[HombrePequeno]

I doubt he will be charged with treason. He was helping out the enemy which is illegal. He'll probably serve life in prison for it too.

 

[b0mbrman]

Regardless of what *should* happen, I believe a jury will release him of most charges...

 

[Logix]

Jay Leno Celebrity Jeopardy (from Friday):

Leno: Let's go to Final Jeopardy! The Final Jeopardy answer is 220 million. Contestants, start writing.
***Cue Jeopardy music***
Leno: Alright, time's up. The Final Jeopardy answer was "220 million".
Harry Potter (played by Gilbert Godfried): And I didn't even take the cap off!
Leno: You're a moron, Potter. Let's see what you wrote. The answer was "220 million".
Potter: How many Harry Potter sequels will there be?
Leno: WRONG! Cheney?
Dick Cheney: What is my cholesterol?
Leno: No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, that is wrong. Now, John, it is up to you. The answer was "220 million", you wrote down?
John Walker: How many years I'll get in prison?
Leno: That is CORRECT! You are our winner! You are our winner, John Walker. That's all the time we have. See you next time on "Celebrity Jeopardy". Good night, everybody!

 

[NetworkDad]

Haha, the Jay Leno spoof was good.

Did you hear his idiot parents on the Today show and others? They say they haven't spoke or know where their son was in several years, but they "know" that he is a good boy.

WTF? How can you know he is a good boy doing nothing wrong if you dont know where the HELL HE IS??? It's parents (if you even want to call them that) that make this country into sh!t, who don't teach their kids any accountability or take responsibility. Always quick to shift the blame elsewhere or claim innocence.