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slayer202

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You're pretty narrow minded. Don't reproduce.

I'll give you one last chance

On average, think about the types of people who seek out news vs. the people who don't and only hear the big news items second hand.

Which group is more intelligent on average?

Or look at intelligent people. Do you think they are more or less likely to be knowledgeable about what's going on in the world(more than just overhearing news items from other people)?

answer my question, and then show me any statement I've made in this thread that is false. otherwise, be quiet. it's ok to be stupid, most people are.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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I prefer to have conversations with people that know about world events. It opens you up to a lot of discussion, whether you like economics, scandal, policies, crime, entertainment...it makes you more of a dynamic individual when you can read about stuff in the news and discuss it.
 
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I'll give you one last chance



answer my question, and then show me any statement I've made in this thread that is false. otherwise, be quiet. it's ok to be stupid, most people are.

Let me go ahead and get a major university to run a study on your asinine broad spectrum question, and I'll get back to you.

Also, hold your breath while you wait.

You go on ahead and soak in all the world news you can while wearing your blinders on everything else life has to offer. I would say that I pity you, but I don't.
 

slayer202

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Let me go ahead and get a major university to run a study on your asinine broad spectrum question, and I'll get back to you.

Also, hold your breath while you wait.

You go on ahead and soak in all the world news you can while wearing your blinders on everything else life has to offer. I would say that I pity you, but I don't.

All I'm asking for is your honest opinion, and to point out where I've made incorrect statements in this thread. Instead of acting like a douche, you can just admit you can't respond to my challenge in a civil way, because you are wrong. I'm trying to refrain from being dragged down to your clearly unintelligent debate level, but I'm finding it difficult since you are acting like a child. Grow up and maybe you'll start caring about the world.
 
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Tim

All I'm asking for is your honest opinion, and to point out where I've made incorrect statements in this thread. Instead of acting like a douche, you can just admit you can't respond to my challenge in a civil way, because you are wrong. I'm trying to refrain from being dragged down to your clearly unintelligent debate level, but I'm finding it difficult since you are acting like a child. Grow up and maybe you'll start caring about the world.

My opinion is that you're leaving out so many important factors that it pretty much negates the point you're trying to make. You're narrow minded point of attack is that because I don't pay attention to world news, I'm somehow handicapped in my overall intelligence. There are so many other factors involved in such a thing (which you refuse to acknowledge), and for you to sit there all high-and-mighty behind your keyboard is in itself the much bigger ignorance in this case. Of course you won't see it that way because you've already made up your mind that you're opinion is correct. Like I said, keep the blinders on. You sound like a miserable fuck.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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I admit, I never watch the news. I never read the newspaper. I never check the weather report. I sometimes pay attention to technology news, and that is really about it.

So far, I haven't really run into any problems following this approach. Skipping out on the weather reports hasn't ever done me any harm because I always wake up early, or leave early for appointments/events. Am I doing myself harm by not knowing everything else going on in the world? With the way the world is connected, you usually hear about anything really important from somebody else within 1 hour of it happening anyway.

Anybody else live this way?

Opinions from both ends of the spectrum please.

Me 2 haven't done it for years at least
 

slayer202

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No, you're an idiot because I NEVER SAID ANY OF THAT. Of course there are other factors. Lots of them. I've said it at least a couple times in this thread, not paying attention to the news does not make you dumb. But it's one of the factors which you seem to refuse to accept is an indicator of intelligence, one which is most likely negatively correlated to intelligence. Correlation != causation. It's not a fact 100% of the time, and I never claimed it to be. But you refuse to accept that not caring or paying attention to the news usually means a person isn't as intelligent. There are always exceptions. You refuse to see what I am saying, and instead you put words in my mouth
 
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All I'm asking for is your honest opinion, and to point out where I've made incorrect statements in this thread. Instead of acting like a douche, you can just admit you can't respond to my challenge in a civil way, because you are wrong. I'm trying to refrain from being dragged down to your clearly unintelligent debate level, but I'm finding it difficult since you are acting like a child. Grow up and maybe you'll start caring about the world.

..... and furthermore, I responded to your "challenge" with a completely valid counter-point, which like I said in my prior reply, you continue to ignore. I'm not saying anything else to you, because you're either really stupid and can't comprehend debate 101, or you're just trolling.
 

Miramonti

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I admit, I never watch the news. I never read the newspaper. I never check the weather report. I sometimes pay attention to technology news, and that is really about it.

So far, I haven't really run into any problems following this approach. Skipping out on the weather reports hasn't ever done me any harm because I always wake up early, or leave early for appointments/events. Am I doing myself harm by not knowing everything else going on in the world? With the way the world is connected, you usually hear about anything really important from somebody else within 1 hour of it happening anyway.

Anybody else live this way?

Opinions from both ends of the spectrum please.

What you're doing is great, and I do it often for long stretches as well, would prefer to do it all the time but is hard to pull off being in front of computers all day.

Here's a newsflash: You're not missing anything you weren't already aware of, except the occassional tragedy caused either by mother nature, person or persons pissed off, or a new civil war somewhere.
 

GrumpyMan

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No offense intended, but you must be really boring to talk to about anything since you seem to be unaware of what is going on the world and what is surrounding you.
 
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Tim

No offense intended, but you must be really boring to talk to about anything since you seem to be unaware of what is going on the world and surrounding you.

No offense taken. Like I've said more than once in this thread, I'm not completely unaware of what is going on in the world... I just don't watch the news. In this day and age, it would be very hard not to run into news. This technology enhanced society is virtually engorged with all types information.

However, back to your point. I do tend to mingle better with people who enjoy the more simple things in life, but I do have one good friend who is very knowledgeable with current world events. We simply talk about the other things we have in common, and it's never seemed to be a problem for him. If you take the effort to look, you can usually find something you like and enjoy in just about anyone you meet. Not everyone has to fit your particular mold of interest... just give a little effort, and you just might learn something new, or find interesting ways of looking at things you may have never realized.
 
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Tim

ecnegilletni llarevo ym ni deppacidnah wohemos m'I, swen dlrow ot noitnetta yap t'nod i esuaceb

Taking part of a point I made out of context is just as silly as me really thinking you wanted me to reverse it, isn't it?
 

Miramonti

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That's the problem, people that are more informed think they are smarter, when many are simply informed and insecure retards.
 

chalmers

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I'm the same way. I'm 31 years old. I've never voted and have had very minimal exposure to news on the tv/radio/web/print. I just don't care about any of that stuff.

Video games/movies/beer sure are fun though.
 

dank69

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... because I don't pay attention to world news, I'm somehow handicapped in my overall intelligence. ...
Scratch that, reverse it.
ecnegilletni llarevo ym ni deppacidnah wohemos m'I, swen dlrow ot noitnetta yap t'nod i esuaceb

Taking part of a point I made out of context is just as silly as me really thinking you wanted me to reverse it, isn't it?
Cybrsage, is that you? :rolleyes:

If you are going to make me spell it out for you:
because I'm handicapped in my overall intelligence I don't pay attention to world news.

Make no mistake, I am not saying the above, slayer is. I'm just pointing out that you are misrepresenting what he is saying. If you don't think there is a difference, well then, he just might be right regardless of your attention to world news.

EDIT: Oh, and btw, claiming an 'out of context' defense in this case is borderline retarded.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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I'm the same way. I'm 31 years old. I've never voted and have had very minimal exposure to news on the tv/radio/web/print. I just don't care about any of that stuff.

Video games/movies/beer sure are fun though.

I bet you bring a lot to dinner conversations. "I was playing COD last night and I totally got a kill streak with 12 headshots!"
 
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Tim

Why is it so key to slayer, and now yourself, that I acknowledge it directly. The fact that I made a counter-point to it should have been acknowledgement enough. Why you both aren't grasping that is beyond me, and rightfully so, if I do dare say.
 

dank69

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Why is it so key to slayer, and now yourself, that I acknowledge it directly. The fact that I made a counter-point to it should have been acknowledgement enough. Why you both aren't grasping that is beyond me, and rightfully so, if I do dare say.
The key to debate is to argue positions actually made by the opposition, not your misunderstanding of their positions. Slayer has acknowledged that what you are saying is correct, but that it isn't refuting what he actually said.
 
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Tim

So I took his position to the extreme... big deal. That's the context in which he himself originally went with. I made my counter-point based on what stance he first took, not what he back peddled into after the fact.

Trust me, I misunderstood nothing that he said. The key fact that my valid point was never addressed is the only real issue here at this point.
 

dank69

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So I took his position to the extreme... big deal. That's the context in which he himself originally went with. I made my counter-point based on what stance he first took, not what he back peddled into after the fact.

Trust me, I misunderstood nothing that he said. The key fact that my valid point was never addressed is the only real issue here at this point.
You didn't take his position to the extreme.
 

slayer202

Lifer
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So I took his position to the extreme... big deal. That's the context in which he himself originally went with. I made my counter-point based on what stance he first took, not what he back peddled into after the fact.

This is completely untrue. Dank actually understands what I have been saying.

Trust me, I misunderstood nothing that he said. The key fact that my valid point was never addressed is the only real issue here at this point.

And what valid point is that? You aren't making any sense because, as Dank has pointed out, you are arguing some position you've decided to create yourself
 

Squisher

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So not following the news makes me an idiot? How about I take those papers and shove them up your arse instead of signing them? So much for whatever point you were trying to make.

I don't remember calling you an idiot. You said you find comfort in not thinking about things not involved with the day to day running of your life. I just took it one step further in that I would allow you shed making decisions about your financial well being.

Every child comes to understand as they grow how they are member of bigger and bigger communities. A very small child first becomes self aware, then sees parents, then family, community and on and on. This awareness will bring responsibilities in making decisions that guide a persons actions as a member of these ever expanding communities. You have drawn a line where you no longer want to participate, but that doesn't stop others from taking on those responsibilities and making decisions for you. I simply offered through the benevolence of my heart to move that line even farther down where you might even see greater bliss.