so what does Obama really stand for?

[bamacre]

That's it in a nutshell. He's Bush without the dumb smirk.

He's potentially worse than Bush, he's a better speaker, and has stronger support, here and overseas.

 

[Munky]

Black Bush.

 

[HomerJS]

He's potentially worse than Bush, he's a better speaker, and has stronger support, here and overseas.

I don't recall Obama ever having a 90% approval rating

 

[wuliheron]

I don't recall Obama ever having a 90% approval rating

Money changes everything.

 

[Red Dawn]

I suppose you'd be willing to wait for a freight train to hit you before deciding it really is coming at you.

You suppose wrong Bucky. Unlike you I can see the train signal when it flashes and it's not flashing. You on the other hand see a train coming when it's not, that is if you are actually serious about Obama being a Commie bent on world domination. Frankly I think you are being facetious, only a complete loon would go that far, not that we don't have them on this forum. Don't know if you're a douchebag or not but I'm pretty sure you're not a Tea Bagger, Ditto Head or part of Faux Noises Rascal Nation.

 

[khon]

He doesn't stand for much of anything.

He's sort of generically a bit to the left of center (in Washington), but willing to compromise on pretty much everything.

The comparisons to Bush are completely misguided, as the two have very little in common.

For example, let say we have a scale from 0-10, with 0 being extreme left, and 10 being extreme right. Bush would want to go to 8 or 9, no matter what the status quo is. Obama would want look at the status quo, and then decrease by one.
This creates the illusion that Bush and Obama are similar, because Obama will take the status quo (i.e. Bush's policies), and only shift them a little to the left.

 

[wuliheron]

You suppose wrong Bucky. Unlike you I can see the train signal when it flashes and it's not flashing. You on the other hand see a train coming when it's not, that is if you are actually serious about Obama being a Commie bent on world domination. Frankly I think you are being facetious, only a complete loon would go that far, not that we don't have them on this forum. Don't know if you're a douchebag or not but I'm pretty sure you're not a Tea Bagger, Ditto Head or part of Faux Noises Rascal Nation.

If you aren't certain who is joking and who isn't then I suppose you can't be certain whether or not that train is coming... Best not take chances.

 

[Red Dawn]

If you aren't certain who is joking and who isn't then I suppose you can't be certain whether or not that train is coming... Best not take chances.

 

[bamacre]

I don't recall Obama ever having a 90% approval rating

I never recall saying he did.

 

[Zebo]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-isnt-wall-street-in-jail-20110216

 

[Anarchist420]

He doesn't stand for much of anything.

He's sort of generically a bit to the left of center (in Washington), but willing to compromise on pretty much everything.

The comparisons to Bush are completely misguided, as the two have very little in common.

For example, let say we have a scale from 0-10, with 0 being extreme left, and 10 being extreme right. Bush would want to go to 8 or 9, no matter what the status quo is. Obama would want look at the status quo, and then decrease by one.
This creates the illusion that Bush and Obama are similar, because Obama will take the status quo (i.e. Bush's policies), and only shift them a little to the left.

Bush was more of a leftist. I'd say he was a 5. Very liberal fiscally (even with taxes, as he took away some deductions and kept the AMT, plus the 2002 steel tariff) and moderate on everything non-fiscal (didn't want to overturn Roe V Wade, any civil rights shit, pro-gun control, pro-amnesty etc., etc.)

He took a few conservative positions, mainly the death penalty, but other than that, he was a leftist.

 

[thraashman]

I'm glad he's not as Liberal as he seemed when he ran.

See, and when he ran he was just left of center to moderate liberal. I'm furious he's nowhere near as liberal as I'd hoped. Perhaps the fact that he's proven to be right of center is why there's still so many problems. Why is it that in my 30 years the most prosperous time I've seen in this nation was when we had a liberal President, Bill Clinton. How is it people don't yet realize the problems with being conservative?

 

[khon]

See, and when he ran he was just left of center to moderate liberal. I'm furious he's nowhere near as liberal as I'd hoped. Perhaps the fact that he's proven to be right of center is why there's still so many problems. Why is it that in my 30 years the most prosperous time I've seen in this nation was when we had a liberal President, Bill Clinton. How is it people don't yet realize the problems with being conservative?

Bill Clinton was a liberal ?

 

[DesiPower]

change, every day

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This fits most politicians, but Obama stands out.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs6s4_animotion-obsession_music

 

[dmcowen674]

so what does Obama really stand for?

as in what are his core principles? What are his main goals while in office? What would he stand up against the world to achieve?

With Jr. we knew what he stood for and what to expect. With Obama...he seems like a better spoken Kerry with as much wavering as he is doing.

So what exactly does this guy really stand for?

He be pimping dog

 

[Macamus Prime]

It doesn't matter what he stands for. People hate him. Criticism of Obama is always contradictory. There is very little logic behind the major points against him; since every direction he heads to is ALWAYS frowned upon.

I am certain it is the color of his skin that makes people hate him so much.

 

[Zebo]

Bush was more of a leftist. I'd say he was a 5. Very liberal fiscally (even with taxes, as he took away some deductions and kept the AMT, plus the 2002 steel tariff) and moderate on everything non-fiscal (didn't want to overturn Roe V Wade, any civil rights shit, pro-gun control, pro-amnesty etc., etc.)

He took a few conservative positions, mainly the death penalty, but other than that, he was a leftist.

There is no left or right when you are allowed to be president, you represent the ,01% who own this country - Wall street MIC and bankers and you job is to let them get away with anything , even crimes, to enable them to acquire more, everything else you do is for public consumption.

Two great articles from opposite ends who have bought a clue most have not unfortunately and argue over trivial bullshit
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-harrison/matt-taibbi-on-obamas-big_b_388594.html

 

[Zebo]

He be pimping dog

They all be pimping.

Read it all here if you want to understand how USA really works today. But small except sums it up.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/matt-taibbi-the-crying-shame-of-john-boehner-20110105

The Democrats have plenty of creatures like Boehner. But in the new Speaker of the House, the Republicans own the perfect archetype — the quintessential example of the kind of glad-handing, double-talking, K Street toady who has dominated the politics of both parties for decades. In sports, we talk about athletes who are the "total package," and that term comes close to describing Boehner's talent for perpetuating our corrupt and debt-addled status quo: He's a five-tool insider who can lie, cheat, steal, play golf, change his mind on command and do anything else his lobbyist buddies and campaign contributors require of him to get the job done.


As for what that job is, here's the thing: In this age of greed-enabling bailouts and rampaging Tea Parties and coast-to-coast voter rage toward the entire political process, Congress in particular now ranks as one of the single most unpopular political entities on earth. Recent polls show that only 13 percent of Americans approve of the job performance of their national legislature — which makes our elected representatives even less popular here at home than, say, Al Qaeda is in Pakistan. (Bin Laden and Co. scored an 18 percent approval rating not long ago.)


The reasons aren't hard to figure. Voters are fatigued not only by the seemingly endless kinky-sex and corruption scandals emanating from Capitol Hill, but also by the increasingly infuriating fact that no matter which party is in power, the leadership inevitably borrows like dice addicts on the Vegas strip and uses the money to pay for huge Frankensteinian initiatives that bloat the size and power of the federal government, often without semblance of sense or plan. The underlying dynamic is bought-off congressmen ignoring real social problems and using the legislative process to construct massive perpetual handouts for their campaign-contributor sponsors. Both parties have now made the servicing of the giant handout machine their primary raison d'être — and it's this perception, that Washington is occupied by an unbreakable bipartisan conspiracy of favor-churning hacks, that has inspired anti-Washington revolts like the Tea Party.

 

[PeshakJang]

I
I am certain it is the color of his skin that makes people hate him so much.

Thanks for sharing your racism with us.

 

[bradley]

Truman regretted the creation of the CIA; Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex. Obama, Bush Sr. and Jr. and Clinton are one in the same president. They all have stood for oligarchies and shadow governments, every other issue are mere distractions.

 

[IGBT]

your obama is Dick Cheney with a sun tan.

 

[Matt1970]

It doesn't matter what he stands for. People hate him. Criticism of Obama is always contradictory. There is very little logic behind the major points against him; since every direction he heads to is ALWAYS frowned upon.

I am certain it is the color of his skin that makes people hate him so much.

Yep, there is no logic in criticizing him for raising the national debt 6 trillion in 4 years. There is no logic in him cooking up the biggest piece of legislation ever behind closed doors then stuffing it down people’s throats, you will like it once it is passed and you get a chance to read it. But hey, it’s all because he is black.

 

[Macamus Prime]

But hey, it’s all because he is black.

Sorry; Black Kenyan Muslim Socialist Terrorist out to take white people's money and virgin teen daugthers.

I'll make sure not to forget the other parts next time - I would hate for the conservatives to keep reminding us! With global warming, we have enough hot air to deal with.

 

[Matt1970]

Sorry; Black Kenyan Muslim Socialist Terrorist out to take white people's money and virgin teen daugthers.

Come on now. That is nowhere near fair. I am sure he will take the non-virgins too.