so what does Obama really stand for?

[rudeguy]

as in what are his core principles? What are his main goals while in office? What would he stand up against the world to achieve?

With Jr. we knew what he stood for and what to expect. With Obama...he seems like a better spoken Kerry with as much wavering as he is doing.

So what exactly does this guy really stand for?

 

[IamDavid]

Same as GW Bush.. I'm impressed.. Besides the stupid healtcare thing...

 

[bamacre]

So what exactly does this guy really stand for?

The opposite of everything he stood for when campaigning for the job.

 

[boomerang]

Whatever it takes to get re-elected?

or,

Whatever makes Mr. Soros happy?

 

[werepossum]

The opposite of everything he stood for when campaigning for the job.

Hey, it really IS that simple.

Since I liked virtually nothing on which he campaigned, I'm reasonably happy with him. Except for that health care thing, and even that has SOME good points.

 

[Red Dawn]

I'm glad he's not as Liberal as he seemed when he ran.

 

[wuliheron]

Obama's obviously a commie in the tradition of Stalin, Marx, and Lenin. First socialized healthcare and now world domination!

 

[bamacre]

I'm glad he's not as Liberal as he seemed when he ran.

The problem is he's much more of a corporatist than he seemed to be when he ran. That's not good for anyone, whether you're on the right or left fiscally, it matters not.

 

[Red Dawn]

Obama's obviously a commie in the tradition of Stalin, Marx, and Lenin. First socialized healthcare and now world domination!

When you mother disapears for crimes against the state for birthing you then you might be on to something.

 

[rudeguy]

The problem is he's much more of a corporatist than he seemed to be when he ran. That's not good for anyone, whether you're on the right or left fiscally, it matters not.

it kind of makes sense now

When he was trying to get his health care bill through, he sweet talked the insurance companies. Then he slammed them. I thought he was double crossing them but is it really as simple as he didn't know which side to take?

Him being wishy washy would make a lot more sense than all the conspiracies that he is doing all these back room deals and playing different groups against each other.

Could that even explain why he bans deep sea drilling in the gulf but says he supports it in Brazil?


:hmm:

 

[Londo_Jowo]

so what does Obama really stand for?

Whatever it takes to get re-elected

 

[Matt1970]

It's like he took all the stuff he bashed Bush for during the elction and then did the same thing x3.

 

[Schadenfroh]

In practice, he is like the last two years (or so) of Bush, with a few feel-good measures.

Not that it is a bad thing, if I was guaranteed current Obama (not early Obama or campaign Obama) for the next four years, I might even vote for him.

 

[wuliheron]

When you mother disapears for crimes against the state for birthing you then you might be on to something.

I suppose you'd be willing to wait for a freight train to hit you before deciding it really is coming at you. No wonder this country is going to the dogs.

 

[Budmantom]

He stands for a good time and trying to improve his golf game.


The power of affirmative action fails us again.

 

[rudeguy]

He stands for a good time and trying to improve his golf game.


The power of affirmative action fails us again.

oh come on....

there are plenty of bad things to say about him without breaking out the race card. Its really not necessary.

 

[yllus]

I don't think he wavers much. That's a profoundly juvenile way to look at the decision making process - there is in fact no great advantage to making early, theatrical pronouncements about policy and then sticking to it no matter what. What good came from "Axis of Evil" talk? Diplomats were left with that much less room to work with to get NK to give up their nuke program. That worked out great.

Information flows in fits and starts. Maybe something comes along that makes the guy say, "Okay, forget holding back - let's go in." And maybe that never happens. That isn't "wavering" - that's treating each situation individually and with the information you've got on hand.

If there is fault in the man's "wavering", it's in failing to better communicate to the electorate why there was no action before there was action. The overabundance of secrecy in politics needs to change.

 

[PeshakJang]

I don't think he wavers much. That's a profoundly juvenile way to look at the decision making process - there is in fact no great advantage to making early, theatrical pronouncements about policy and then sticking to it no matter what. What good came from "Axis of Evil" talk? Diplomats were left with that much less room to work with to get NK to give up their nuke program. That worked out great.

Information flows in fits and starts. Maybe something comes along that makes the guy say, "Okay, forget holding back - let's go in." And maybe that never happens. That isn't "wavering" - that's treating each situation individually and with the information you've got on hand.

If there is fault in the man's "wavering", it's in failing to better communicate to the electorate why there was no action before there was action. The overabundance of secrecy in politics needs to change.

You don't change your core principals based on "new information" from day to day.

On top of that, my biggest problem is that he will say one thing, do the opposite, and then say another thing as if he never said/did the first thing, and/or claim that he never said/did it at all.

Call it a failure to communicate, but if you step back and look at him, he's looking more and more like a man that, as most of us already understood, is drastically unqualified for the position he is in.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Obama stands for government providing some lube to the masses while the corporatocracy dicks over the country, as opposed to the right who only want the rich to afford lube and the poor have to pay for their own anal stitches.

But yeah, that's a good point about Obama vs. W. With W you knew what you'd get, every time, regardless of the particulars of a given situation, because Bush was always motivated by some pre-conceived principle. Obama seems to be able to asses situations individually, act upon given information at the time, and make alterations as the information changes and the situation evolves. I can see how the latter might put off some people, because some people are stupid and stubborn just like W.

 

[Doppel]

Whatever the lobbyists tell him he stands for.

 

[bamacre]

I don't think he wavers much. That's a profoundly juvenile way to look at the decision making process

Are you kidding me? Did you listen to him for the 12 months or so he campaigned?

 

[bamacre]

You don't change your core principals based on "new information" from day to day.

On top of that, my biggest problem is that he will say one thing, do the opposite, and then say another thing as if he never said/did the first thing, and/or claim that he never said/did it at all.

Call it a failure to communicate, but if you step back and look at him, he's looking more and more like a man that, as most of us already understood, is drastically unqualified for the position he is in.

What troubles me is that so many Democrats still blindly support him. He's been a disaster, he's done so many things that should have his constituents gathering up pitchforks, yet he's looking at another landslide victory in '12. Obama isn't the one looking stupid, IMHO, no, that's all these fucking momo's who are enthusiastically ready to re-elect him.

 

[umbrella39]

as in what are his core principles? What are his main goals while in office? What would he stand up against the world to achieve?

With Jr. we knew what he stood for and what to expect. With Obama...he seems like a better spoken Kerry with as much wavering as he is doing.

So what exactly does this guy really stand for?

??? Obama is a Bush clone and why people like me are happy we don't take the blame for having voted for him.

 

[IronWing]

The opposite of everything he stood for when campaigning for the job.

That's it in a nutshell. He's Bush without the dumb smirk.

 

[HomerJS]

as in what are his core principles? What are his main goals while in office? What would he stand up against the world to achieve?

With Jr. we knew what he stood for and what to expect. With Obama...he seems like a better spoken Kerry with as much wavering as he is doing.

So what exactly does this guy really stand for?

Really? The only core principle I'm aware of Bush stood by is his promise not to fuck interns "that honor and dignity to the White House thing". Name one CP Bush kept he promised in 2000?

There are plenty of things to criticize Obama for but "what are his core principles" is right wing touretts. I was waiting for one of these...

Kenyan
Socialist
Nuanced
Not one of us
un-american
unpatriotic