So WalMart in New Hampshire doesn't collect any bottle deposits....

[sswingle]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!

Again, its fraud. The system works by you paying a DEPOSIT, if you go to Michigan your asking for your DEPOSIT back but never paid it to that state.

The can does not specify that though. All the can says is that MI will give 10 cents.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: Eli
Here in Oregon, they've combated this by using the machines that scan the UPC.

If the can was sold in another state, it won't accept it - even if said state does have a deposit system.

yep
learned this when i went to return a bunch of bottles in massachusetts that i had accumulated on a long road trip. the machines KNOW!

fair is fair though, i didnt pay a deposit when i bought them so shouldnt get one back

 

[Aikouka]

It's because the actual distributor is in the other state. For example, when I lived in north-eastern PA, we had bottle returns on all of our sodas and beers, but guess what... PA doesn't have deposits. It's because the distributors are in southern-tier NY and they bring the Coke/Pepsi to PA.

But in some cases, you buy soda from PA and NY... if you can't remember that you bought that 20oz soda from a shop in PA when the rest were from NY... is it really so bad? 😛 In other words, they get mixed in and it's not like there's a difference nor remember.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!

Again, its fraud. The system works by you paying a DEPOSIT, if you go to Michigan your asking for your DEPOSIT back but never paid it to that state.

The can does not specify that though. All the can says is that MI will give 10 cents.

Your wrong, get over it.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!

Again, its fraud. The system works by you paying a DEPOSIT, if you go to Michigan your asking for your DEPOSIT back but never paid it to that state.

The can does not specify that though. All the can says is that MI will give 10 cents.

surely they are just using the same label on all their cans nationwide
what is implicit is that you are only eligible to receive the deposit from that state if you PURCHASED the goods and paid the deposit in taht same state.

the laws uphold this too.

 

[sswingle]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!

Again, its fraud. The system works by you paying a DEPOSIT, if you go to Michigan your asking for your DEPOSIT back but never paid it to that state.

The can does not specify that though. All the can says is that MI will give 10 cents.

Your wrong, get over it.

I just like playing devils advocate. I take mine to the local place that pays by weight anyways.

I just find it amusing, because in any other situation everyone would be screaming about deceptive advertising, how dare they, blah blah blah, but no one cares about 10 cents for a can.

 

[Wonderful Pork]

I live in the Boston area and have tried recycling some beer bottles from NH without success. In fact, I took empy beer bottles bought in MA to a Stop & Shop in MA and they rejected the bottles because they didnt sell alcoholic beverages. I was able to recycle them at the same location I bought them. Weird.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!

Again, its fraud. The system works by you paying a DEPOSIT, if you go to Michigan your asking for your DEPOSIT back but never paid it to that state.

The can does not specify that though. All the can says is that MI will give 10 cents.

Your wrong, get over it.

I just like playing devils advocate. I take mine to the local place that pays by weight anyways.

I just find it amusing, because in any other situation everyone would be screaming about deceptive advertising, how dare they, blah blah blah, but no one cares about 10 cents for a can.

i dont think everything needs to be explicitly written out in simple english just to support the lowest common denominator of the american population. i dont think things need a hundred disclaimers and waivers to keep people from suing. i dont need a warning that tells me my coffee is hot, and i dont feel entitled to anything bc of miswording or lack of wording. its nice they try to inform the consumer, but its up to them to understand how deposits work.

as far as paying by weight, i think you can always sell your aluminum for scrap by weight in any state. not sure how this compares to cashing in for a deposit but if you have a stash could be worth it.

 

[mooseracing]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
as far as paying by weight, i think you can always sell your aluminum for scrap by weight in any state. not sure how this compares to cashing in for a deposit but if you have a stash could be worth it.

any state will have a recycler that buys metal by weight.





Recycling is different than trying to get your deposit back. All the people that buy the pop/beer in states that require a deposit are enticed with a refund of that deposit if they recycle. If you take your fucking cans back that you didn't pay a deposit, you are stealing from my state and funds that I could potentially be losing.

That being said I go to Indiana once and awhile and buy cans without deposit then just throw them away. I don't try to steal money from the state. This is common sense that has been around forever in Michigan. Hopefully the peopel that try to steal money get raped in jail.

 

[sswingle]

Originally posted by: mooseracing

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
as far as paying by weight, i think you can always sell your aluminum for scrap by weight in any state. not sure how this compares to cashing in for a deposit but if you have a stash could be worth it.

any state will have a recycler that buys metal by weight.





Recycling is different than trying to get your deposit back. All the people that buy the pop/beer in states that require a deposit are enticed with a refund of that deposit if they recycle. If you take your fucking cans back that you didn't pay a deposit, you are stealing from my state and funds that I could potentially be losing.

That being said I go to Indiana once and awhile and buy cans without deposit then just throw them away. I don't try to steal money from the state. This is common sense that has been around forever in Michigan. Hopefully the peopel that try to steal money get raped in jail.

Yes, and I'm sure the state doesn't make anything at all by recycling the aluminum.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
The question is, now that you officially know it's not legal, and that it constitutes fraud, are you going to continue doing so?

Probably, just to stoke your righteous outrage.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!

Again, its fraud. The system works by you paying a DEPOSIT, if you go to Michigan your asking for your DEPOSIT back but never paid it to that state.

The can does not specify that though. All the can says is that MI will give 10 cents.

Your wrong, get over it.

I just like playing devils advocate. I take mine to the local place that pays by weight anyways.

I just find it amusing, because in any other situation everyone would be screaming about deceptive advertising, how dare they, blah blah blah, but no one cares about 10 cents for a can.

Deceptive advertising?! Okay, time to stop playing devil's advocate. You're starting to border on "devil's fool."

 

[0roo0roo]

its not a deposit. its a tax. and they just hope you don't apply for the rebate....well...rebate style.

 

[herm0016]

MI has a 10 cent too. it is related more to interstate trading policy than it is fraud, and therefor is actually a federal crime.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Originally posted by: Eli
Here in Oregon, they've combated this by using the machines that scan the UPC.

If the can was sold in another state, it won't accept it - even if said state does have a deposit system.

The problem with them is that it takes forever to get the UPC database updated. So if a new drink comes out it could take three months or more before the machine will take the new bottles/cans.

I still think those things are better than the system here in CA. The recycling centers are privately owned and most of them are open something like 9 am to 3:30 PM.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

obviously OP has never watched Seinfeld.

 

[lupi]

All this trouble, why not ya know just eliminate the deposit.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: techs
HeHe. Seems living on the border has its advantages. I live about a mile from a Walmart in New Hampshire. Despite their not having any bottle deposit in New Hampshire the bottles and cans are all labeled for deposit return.
So basically all beverages are a nickle off, as long as I return them in my home state.
Take that, Newman!

MA has a $0.10 deposit instead of a nickel. just goto the border states and make mint!

they do? I thought it was 5 cents.

It is 5 cents in MA. JEDI doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[PhlashFoto]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: techs
HeHe. Seems living on the border has its advantages. I live about a mile from a Walmart in New Hampshire. Despite their not having any bottle deposit in New Hampshire the bottles and cans are all labeled for deposit return.
So basically all beverages are a nickle off, as long as I return them in my home state.
Take that, Newman!

MA has a $0.10 deposit instead of a nickel. just goto the border states and make mint!

MA is .05 cent for the deposit.

 

[ICRS]

California has two rates, under 24oz it is 5cents, 24oz and over it is 10 cents.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: lupi
All this trouble, why not ya know just eliminate the deposit.

Because it's very effective at reducing litter. People stopped throwing out cans for the money, then they stopped throwing a lot of other stuff out too because now it was clean enough that they felt bad about it.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: sswingle
People here in Ohio take cans up to Michigan all the time. I see it is being paid to recycle.

I would avoid basing what laws are just because of observation.

You know if a vending machine was left unlocked most bastards would rob it.

 

[ahartman]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
The question is, now that you officially know it's not legal, and that it constitutes fraud, are you going to continue doing so?

Probably, just to stoke your righteous outrage.

This made me LOL.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You know that is illegal right?

Yep, fraud.

wtf? If the can is labeled for a deposit it is WalMart that is selling the wrong bottles and cans in New Hampshire. Seems they are committing the fraud.

no its still you

the makers of the cans dont print special ones for states that give you a refund, they have the refund info on them even if the state they are sold in does not give a refund

They don't? Can anyone who lives in a state without the deposit verify this?

Yes. I've lived in OH, PA, and WA, none of which have deposit laws, but cans and bottles have always (well, as long as I can remember) had the redemption values printed on them from other states.

ZV

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You know that is illegal right?

Yep, fraud.

wtf? If the can is labeled for a deposit it is WalMart that is selling the wrong bottles and cans in New Hampshire. Seems they are committing the fraud.

no its still you

the makers of the cans dont print special ones for states that give you a refund, they have the refund info on them even if the state they are sold in does not give a refund

They don't? Can anyone who lives in a state without the deposit verify this?

i just verified it for you