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So WalMart in New Hampshire doesn't collect any bottle deposits....

techs

techs

Lifer
HeHe. Seems living on the border has its advantages. I live about a mile from a Walmart in New Hampshire. Despite their not having any bottle deposit in New Hampshire the bottles and cans are all labeled for deposit return.
So basically all beverages are a nickle off, as long as I return them in my home state.
Take that, Newman!
 
How is that illegal? You buy something legally, it is printed on it that you get 5 cents for turning in the bottle. You return the bottle, and get your 5 cents. Doesn't sound illegal at all.
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You know that is illegal right?
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Yep, fraud.
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wtf? If the can is labeled for a deposit it is WalMart that is selling the wrong bottles and cans in New Hampshire. Seems they are committing the fraud.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You know that is illegal right?
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Yep, fraud.
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wtf? If the can is labeled for a deposit it is WalMart that is selling the wrong bottles and cans in New Hampshire. Seems they are committing the fraud.
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no its still you

the makers of the cans dont print special ones for states that give you a refund, they have the refund info on them even if the state they are sold in does not give a refund
 
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You know that is illegal right?
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Yep, fraud.
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wtf? If the can is labeled for a deposit it is WalMart that is selling the wrong bottles and cans in New Hampshire. Seems they are committing the fraud.
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Its you, those are general cans, you are only entitled to the CRV if you paid it upon purchase. Suggest you brush up on your laws 😉
 
From what I've seen on cans and beer bottles, it usually states which states will collect them. I don't think there are any state-specific labels for the cans being sold in those states. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
Where I grew up they had different distributors for each state so IL had just normal cans and Iowa had 5 cent cans. Whats to stop me from driving to Michigan for 10 cents a can?
 
The question is, now that you officially know it's not legal, and that it constitutes fraud, are you going to continue doing so?
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You know that is illegal right?
Click to expand...

Yep, fraud.
Click to expand...

wtf? If the can is labeled for a deposit it is WalMart that is selling the wrong bottles and cans in New Hampshire. Seems they are committing the fraud.
Click to expand...

no its still you

the makers of the cans dont print special ones for states that give you a refund, they have the refund info on them even if the state they are sold in does not give a refund
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They don't? Can anyone who lives in a state without the deposit verify this?

 
All of our cans have a list of states and the value. Nowhere does it say, OMG, you bought this can in Ohio, how dare you drive it up to Michigan. If Michigan doesn't want them, then offer 5 cents like everyone else, or don't buy them at all.
 
I have not been to NH in a while, but this is what I remember. Cans in NH do not have a deposit stamp on the top. When you go to teh border into MA, the stamp is present (5 cents for MA and 10 cents for ME????). If you try to get the deposit back on a bottle from NH in MA in one of those recycle machines, the machine will just reject it and spit the can back out. If you do it in person, people do not check.

Note that all this is what I remembered when I lived in Lowell 7 years ago.


OP, you live talking about the Walmart in Nashua?
 
Techs, from a source I suspect you'll believe, the SierraClub:

http://www.sierraclubmass.org/...on/ubb/ubb_claims.html

CLAIM: Fraud will cause the bottlers to lose millions

FACT: Buying a beverage in another bottle-bill state - or a non bottle bill state like New Hampshire - and returning it in Massachusetts, is considered "fraud". While some bottlers are unwilling to specify just how many containers are fraudulently returned, others like Coca-Cola are beginning to use the most obvious method to eliminate it: different barcodes in bottle bill states. This low-cost method virtually eliminates fraud.

 
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You know that is illegal right?
Click to expand...

Yep, fraud.
Click to expand...

wtf? If the can is labeled for a deposit it is WalMart that is selling the wrong bottles and cans in New Hampshire. Seems they are committing the fraud.
Click to expand...

no its still you

the makers of the cans dont print special ones for states that give you a refund, they have the refund info on them even if the state they are sold in does not give a refund
Click to expand...

They don't? Can anyone who lives in a state without the deposit verify this?
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Ohio has no deposit, yet we have cans that have deposit refund info on them. Well, some cans. This Mountain Dew can from Kroger here in Toledo, Ohio (right on the border with Michigan) actually does not have the refund info on it, and I'm surprised. I have a Coke can here that does have the refund info. Most every beer can I've ever seen also has the info on it.

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Originally posted by: techs
HeHe. Seems living on the border has its advantages. I live about a mile from a Walmart in New Hampshire. Despite their not having any bottle deposit in New Hampshire the bottles and cans are all labeled for deposit return.
So basically all beverages are a nickle off, as long as I return them in my home state.
Take that, Newman!
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MA has a $0.10 deposit instead of a nickel. just goto the border states and make mint!
 
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: techs
HeHe. Seems living on the border has its advantages. I live about a mile from a Walmart in New Hampshire. Despite their not having any bottle deposit in New Hampshire the bottles and cans are all labeled for deposit return.
So basically all beverages are a nickle off, as long as I return them in my home state.
Take that, Newman!
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MA has a $0.10 deposit instead of a nickel. just goto the border states and make mint!
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they do? I thought it was 5 cents.
 
Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!
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Again, its fraud. The system works by you paying a DEPOSIT, if you go to Michigan your asking for your DEPOSIT back but never paid it to that state.
 
Here in Oregon, they've combated this by using the machines that scan the UPC.

If the can was sold in another state, it won't accept it - even if said state does have a deposit system.
 
Originally posted by: sswingle
Ok, maybe they don't put them on the can anymore, I just looked at a Mt.Dew can and it didn't have a list. I remember ones that did though.
However it does say in big bold letters, PLEASE RECYCLE.
So what if I choose to recycle it in Michigan. The can told me to recycle it!
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To more directly answer your question, this is what Michigan does if you do that (and get caught):

Bringing beverage containers from out of state on which no deposit was paid in Michigan for the purpose of collecting a deposit on the containers is illegal. Each fraudulently returned container reduces the amount of escheat money going into the Community Pollution Prevention Fund, the Cleanup and Redevelopment Fund, and the Trust Fund. MCL Section 445.574a(2) states that a person who returns or attempts to return beverage containers from out of state or for which no deposit was paid is subject to the following: containers, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of nmore than $100.00. (b) If the person returns more than 100 nonreturnable containers or violates
subdivision (a) for a second or subsequent time, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 93 days or anot more than $500.00, or both
 
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