So the NJ state police are mad at the Virginia Police

[alm4rr]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

Hardly traffic Nazis... I'll go with no radar detectors with lax and courteous enforcement than allowed detectors and NJ cops ticketing for 2 mph over limit

(Lived/living in both states for years)

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

That may be, but in this case they were perfectly justified in stopping the NJ cops.

They were just doing their job...



stopping and ticketing everything with out of state plates.

 

[alm4rr]

90 is def. unsafe on a lot of I-81, especially when these guys are going that fast *with lights on* forcing people into the other lane. I81 is only 2 lanes (each way) and is known to be very overcrowded.

I'm curious to know how many of these people saying 90 is safe on I81 have driven it on a regular basis?

 

[ThePresence]

OT: I love when Mill goes on a rant.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: Mill
Kudos for you missing the entire point. You're just like Nik, if something is "illegal" you equate it with bad, reckless, and not good. That's bullsh!t. Your argument was nothing about a standard -- you claimed it was illegal, and that was your reasoning for being happy. You're a typical brow-beater of those that don't fellate every nuance of the law, which is rather sickening in a supposedly free country. What harm came to the state of Virgina or you as a result of them driving 95mph? None. So STFU. It you want equality and a lack of hypocracy, then you better design robots as cops, because you know good and well that if it had been one of the deputy's buddys blowing by at 95 he wouldn't have even moved. He wanted to be an ass to out of state cops -- likely because he was pissed that they had actually been doing something, and he had been sitting on the interstate flogging his cod.

Why does it MATTER if it is illegal? It is fundamentally true the legality is not the same as morality or safety. So, if they weren't morally wrong or being unsafe then why do you care? Mainly because you're a nosy ass that probably loves to snoop and call the police for everything. You uber wannabe-cops get very OLD. Mind your own business.

Wannabe cop? Lol. That's about the last thing I'd ever choose to do. You want to argue that speeding isn't morally wrong and therefore shouldn't be illegal? Fine, go right ahead. But then nobody, neither cop or average person should be stopped for it. I personally think that a lot of speed limits are set to generate revenue, but that's not the point. You either have to enforce a law equally, or have it removed.

Or amend it to be logical. A 70mph speed limit makes little sense. Is a 70 year old man in a Pickup Truck hauling a 5,000 lb trailer have the same ability in his vehicle as a 25 year old Male driving a brand new Camry? Highly unlikely. The current all-or-nothing revenue based approach to limiting excessive speed on our highways is so illogical that it is humorous.

My point was simple, the other cops might have been being asses, but so was this cop. You can bet your ass that he expect to not get pulled over speeding around town when on or off-duty as do his cop friends. But some cops from out of jurisdiction -- well he decided to hassle them

You're never gonna have equality, but that doesn't mean that you keep enforcing a bad law just for the semblance of equality. Bad laws are seldom logical or smart, yet people tend to ignore them. 98% of all people speed. It seems to me that if 98% of all people commit the same "criminal" act, then it is likely it is not criminal.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
VA cops are crazy about speeding so many people I know say the only ticket they have ever gotten was the 1 time they drove through VA, but this was justified

They are. I remember my Grandfather getting a ticket there in 1990. His first ticket since 1948. Oh, they got him, I'm sure he'll totally change his driving habits. :roll:

It is entirely about revenue, although asshats like Heisenberg try to make your believe it is about law & order.

My last ticket was in VA too. Prince Georges County. That being said, the NJ cops shouldn't have been speeding. And this makes them look even more asshattish:

A convoy of New York Police Department officers returning from duties in the Gulf Coast stayed in the right-hand lane and obeyed the speed limit.

They just didn't want to get pulled over with another Abner Louima -- this time in the trunk. The VA cops must have missed all the toilet plungers in the backseat. Yes, I jest, but obviously they were going about things the right way. I'm not defending the NJ cops -- they were dicks, but people who equate speeding with releasing a WMD on poor, handicapped, children piss me off.

 

[Heisenberg]

Originally posted by: Mill
Or amend it to be logical. A 70mph speed limit makes little sense. Is a 70 year old man in a Pickup Truck hauling a 5,000 lb trailer have the same ability in his vehicle as a 25 year old Male driving a brand new Camry? Highly unlikely. The current all-or-nothing revenue based approach to limiting excessive speed on our highways is so illogical that it is humorous.

My point was simple, the other cops might have been being asses, but so was this cop. You can bet your ass that he expect to not get pulled over speeding around town when on or off-duty as do his cop friends. But some cops from out of jurisdiction -- well he decided to hassle them

You're never gonna have equality, but that doesn't mean that you keep enforcing a bad law just for the semblance of equality. Bad laws are seldom logical or smart, yet people tend to ignore them. 98% of all people speed. It seems to me that if 98% of all people commit the same "criminal" act, then it is likely it is not criminal.

I agree that there are some pretty stupid laws out there that shouldn't be enforced. However, not enforcing a law because it's a bad law is entirely different from not enforcing a law because the other party are police officers.

 

Good.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: alm4rr
90 is def. unsafe on a lot of I-81, especially when these guys are going that fast *with lights on* forcing people into the other lane. I81 is only 2 lanes (each way) and is known to be very overcrowded.

I'm curious to know how many of these people saying 90 is safe on I81 have driven it on a regular basis?

I've driven 81 alot, and there are certainly sections where 95MPH is definitely unsafe. Don't know if this is one of them. If there was any traffic ( and their always is) it was definitely unsafe. And for no good reason (unlike a legitimate high speed police chase)

But that's completely irrelevant. They were blatantly violating several laws. They should be thankful that they weren't actually cited for the violations. To top it off the NJ cop is a complete and utter a$$hole.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: alm4rr

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

Hardly traffic Nazis... I'll go with no radar detectors with lax and courteous enforcement than allowed detectors and NJ cops ticketing for 2 mph over limit

(Lived/living in both states for years)

I'll take Illinois with radar detectors and no enforcement. I've driven I-55 to Chicago close to 1000 times at 90mph in the last 7 years and never had a ticket.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: alm4rr

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

Hardly traffic Nazis... I'll go with no radar detectors with lax and courteous enforcement than allowed detectors and NJ cops ticketing for 2 mph over limit

(Lived/living in both states for years)

I'll take Illinois with radar detectors and no enforcement. I've driven I-55 to Chicago close to 1000 times at 90mph in the last 7 years and never had a ticket.

You drive I-55 to Chicago at 90 MPH once every 2.5 days? :Q

OK, OK, I'll leave you alone now...

I like the Illinois State Police (or whatever they're called), also. Their main revenue generators are the tollways, so they don't enforce speed as much. Or at least that's what I'm blindly guessing (and I know several people in Chicago that has said the same thing so <shrug>).

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

That may be, but in this case they were perfectly justified in stopping the NJ cops.

95 is simply not an unsafe speed on the interstate.

"the" interstate?
So all interstates are exactly the same?
Generalisations = teh suq.

 

[Pepsei]

NJ?? that's like a couple states away from Virginia.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

That may be, but in this case they were perfectly justified in stopping the NJ cops.

95 is simply not an unsafe speed on the interstate.

They were exceeding the speed limits with their lights and sirens on in a non-emergency situation, which is illegal in VA.

So is jaywalking, so is sitting on a milk-crate in NYC without city approval, so is having an open container in public, so was having anal or oral sex with your wife in most states until Lawrence Vs. Texas. I could give a FVCK less what is illegal or not. Legality doesn't determine my morality or sense of what is right and wrong.

95 is NOT unsafe. It might be illegal, but so what? You think all illegal things are on the same level? You know, someone who goes 95 on the interstate is not someone I consider a criminal. Now, someone who rapes and murders a 3 year old is. I'm sure in your eyes they are the same, though. Sad.

The ATOT holier-than-thou crowd has arrived. I'll let you children have the thread now.

Oh, by the way, slavery, spousal abuse, and a slew of other things used to be legal. If you let legality determine your life then you're a slave to group-think and society.

did you read my post? apparantly the road they were speeding on is very unsafe at 95
edit: as he said...

Originally posted by: alm4rr
90 is def. unsafe on a lot of I-81, especially when these guys are going that fast *with lights on* forcing people into the other lane. I81 is only 2 lanes (each way) and is known to be very overcrowded.

I'm curious to know how many of these people saying 90 is safe on I81 have driven it on a regular basis?

im definitely with the VA cops on this one

 

[KarenMarie]

Just heard on the radio news...

there is evidence that some of the top guys in the NJSP were charged with changing tests results on the promotional tests.

go figure.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
NJ?? that's like a couple states away from Virginia.

very good!

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

That may be, but in this case they were perfectly justified in stopping the NJ cops.

95 is simply not an unsafe speed on the interstate.

They were exceeding the speed limits with their lights and sirens on in a non-emergency situation, which is illegal in VA.

So is jaywalking, so is sitting on a milk-crate in NYC without city approval, so is having an open container in public, so was having anal or oral sex with your wife in most states until Lawrence Vs. Texas. I could give a FVCK less what is illegal or not. Legality doesn't determine my morality or sense of what is right and wrong.

95 is NOT unsafe. It might be illegal, but so what? You think all illegal things are on the same level? You know, someone who goes 95 on the interstate is not someone I consider a criminal. Now, someone who rapes and murders a 3 year old is. I'm sure in your eyes they are the same, though. Sad.

The ATOT holier-than-thou crowd has arrived. I'll let you children have the thread now.

Oh, by the way, slavery, spousal abuse, and a slew of other things used to be legal. If you let legality determine your life then you're a slave to group-think and society.

so why don't you?

 

[sapiens74]

The guy in the phone conversation should be reprimaded and stripped of his rank.

The deputy was within his right to arrest and impound the cars ans didn't do so.

They were extended professional courtesy and showed none in return.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: Mill

So is jaywalking, so is sitting on a milk-crate in NYC without city approval, so is having an open container in public, so was having anal or oral sex with your wife in most states until Lawrence Vs. Texas. I could give a FVCK less what is illegal or not. Legality doesn't determine my morality or sense of what is right and wrong.

95 is NOT unsafe. It might be illegal, but so what? You think all illegal things are on the same level? You know, someone who goes 95 on the interstate is not someone I consider a criminal. Now, someone who rapes and murders a 3 year old is. I'm sure in your eyes they are the same, though. Sad.

The ATOT holier-than-thou crowd has arrived. I'll let you children have the thread now.

Oh, by the way, slavery, spousal abuse, and a slew of other things used to be legal. If you let legality determine your life then you're a slave to group-think and society.

so why don't you?

:laugh::laugh:

 

[Gamingphreek]

Some of you in this thread are complete idiots.

No matter what road you are on, 95mph is uunsafe. Yes, while to some it is still comfortable, but, be that as it may, THEY BROKE THE LAW. I dont give a sh!t if they were 75 in a 65, they are breaking the law. Im not saying i dont usually cruise at ~75 on interstates, because i do. Ii know i am breaking the law, and prepared to accept the consequences if caught.

Unsafe or not, the law is the law!

-Kevin

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Good for the VA Deputy. The NJ State Police have to respect juristicions and VA law.

VA cops are traffic nazis... radar detectors are illegal there.

That may be, but in this case they were perfectly justified in stopping the NJ cops.

95 is simply not an unsafe speed on the interstate.

Only a complete and utter fool would make an ignorant statement like that. There are lots of parts of 81 which are very dangerous to drive at the normal speeds much less 95 mph.

 

[NFS4]

Ah man, this is getting nasty

"The Virginia authorities never produced any documentation, any radar, any evidence," Speziale's spokesman, Bill Maer, told Media General News Service. "All we have is their word, and we have not found them to be very truthful in the past, so we have no reason to believe them now."

"Why was Virginia the only state that failed to provide a police escort?" [Joseph Occhipinti, executive director of the National Police Defense Foundation] asked, arguing the convoys were vulnerable to possible terrorists attacks.

Holy hell, terrorist attacks??? My oh my...the skapegoating that goes on in this country

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/06/691.asp

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Some of you in this thread are complete idiots.

No matter what road you are on, 95mph is uunsafe. Yes, while to some it is still comfortable, but, be that as it may, THEY BROKE THE LAW. I dont give a sh!t if they were 75 in a 65, they are breaking the law. Im not saying i dont usually cruise at ~75 on interstates, because i do. Ii know i am breaking the law, and prepared to accept the consequences if caught.

Unsafe or not, the law is the law!

-Kevin

i agree, 95 is unsafe. anyone who think otherwise is just trying to act tough or prove a point. there is no reason to drive that fast.

 

[NFS4]

More on the story:

http://www.starexponent.com/servlet/Sat...GArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785460240

 

[CanOWorms]

I hope that they charge the six cars that sped away. They should all be fired, too.