So....Sandra Fluke may run for congress

[nehalem256]

Why are you bringing it up then?

Because its part of Sandra Fluke's yarn of a lies.

Talking about how your friend is suffering is a lot more power suffering is a lot more powerful than the truth of how she attended Georgetown specifically to stir shit up about free birth control.

 

[CitizenKain]

I never called her a slut and I don't care one whit about her sex life. Personally I'm all for women having more sex but see no reason why taxpayers or colleges should fund birth control for her and mandating it be universally covered as part of health "insurance" coverage is asinine. As far as being a quality friend or not, that's for the other person to decide. I don't know her but I'd be hard pressed to call someone a 'friend' who used the story of my personal circumstances to publically advance a political point and pointed me to Uncle Sam for help instead of reaching into her own pocket. But maybe her friend is just as much of a partisan as she is and fully supports whatever payola they can get from the government, even to the level of personal health supplies. Maybe Fluke can advocate for taxpayer funded toilet paper and tampons for women next.

Are there other medications that people take that are covered by insurance that you have problems with? Or just ones that are taken by women.

Wait, I know the answer.

 

[alzan]

And those pills cost $9/month or $324 for 36 moths, not $3000

The cost of the pills is directly related to the formulation of the chemicals in the pill. Not all birth control pills are the same formulation.

 

[Vic]

She really should thank Limbaugh for giving her career such a boost.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

It's generally the same small group of people too. You can expect certain of the same usual suspects for certain topics where they like to come out and show their bigotry.

Indeed...the same ones troll over and over. I think they need some serious psychiatric help, they have major mental health issues.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

And those pills cost $9/month or $324 for 36 moths, not $3000

And Matt1970, fresh from showing how much of a bigot he is, now shows his medical ignorance in the same day.

So Dr. matt1970, you are now an expert on womens' birth control? I think not. Anything else you want to make up and claim as fact?

 

[glenn1]

Are there other medications that people take that are covered by insurance that you have problems with? Or just ones that are taken by women.

Wait, I know the answer.

Prior to Obamacare mandating exactly what needed to be covered, I'd be fine if someone voluntarily chose a plan which included whatever pharmaceuticals or procedures someone wanted to pay the premium for. Now we no longer have that option and politicians decide what we pay for. I oppose the inclusion of any lifestyle drugs like Viagra, birth control, acne control, hair restoration, skin wrinkles, or similar. For the condition her "friend" had (polycystic ovary syndrome) the primary purpose of birth control pills is for convenience: to treat hirsuitism and regulation of the menstrual cycle. The idea that birth control pills should be included as part of standard coverage in health insurance plans for all but a tiny percentage of women where it treats a legitimate medical condition is ridiculous.

 

[michal1980]

disagree with handouts = you are now a bigot.

 

[HomerJS]

Birth control is cheaper overall then covering results of accidental pregnancy whether abortion or giving birth.

 

[UberNeuman]

She really should thank Limbaugh for giving her career such a boost.

He never gave credit to Oxycontin and Viagra for boosting, y'know... things...

Why start now?

 

[row]

Man, between this and the coke commerical thread, the entire bigot subset of P&N is out in force. Good to know who are the bigots around here.

It's generally the same small group of people too. You can expect certain of the same usual suspects for certain topics where they like to come out and show their bigotry.

sounds like the vagina monologues in stereo

i have no problem with the woman's skankiness, her abject progressive stupidity (see above), nor her sanguisugent political aspirations. i have a problem with anyone that believes i'm responsible for supplying ms fluke's condoms an kyj.

 

[Matt1970]

And Matt1970, fresh from showing how much of a bigot he is, now shows his medical ignorance in the same day.

So Dr. matt1970, you are now an expert on womens' birth control? I think not. Anything else you want to make up and claim as fact?

Let me just leave this here for you.

http://www.reproductiveaccess.org/contraception/lowcost_pills.htm

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sandra-fluke-says-she-didnt-know-target-sells-birth-control-pills-9

Oops, Once again GarfieldtheCat opened his mouth and showed how much of a dumbfuck he is.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Aside from enduring some Republican verbal abuse, what are her qualifications?

She'll have a D after her name. That's all you care about.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Let me just leave this here for you.

http://www.reproductiveaccess.org/contraception/lowcost_pills.htm

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sandra-fluke-says-she-didnt-know-target-sells-birth-control-pills-9

Oops, Once again GarfieldtheCat opened his mouth and showed how much of a dumbfuck he is.

And once again, you knowingly lie. You do realize that not all pills cost the same right? And plenty of women can't use the cheap ones right? I forget, you probably live in your parents basement so you aren't married and don't understand these things. Typical.


So you are wrong as usual. Maybe you can enforce that you have to speak English to get birth control pills too. Would that make you feel better?

 

[Matt1970]

And once again, you knowingly lie. You do realize that not all pills cost the same right? And plenty of women can't use the cheap ones right? I forget, you probably live in your parents basement so you aren't married and don't understand these things. Typical.


So you are wrong as usual. Maybe you can enforce that you have to speak English to get birth control pills too. Would that make you feel better?

So you claim I made it up, which I proved I didn't, then you claim I am wrong because they don't all cost $9. And once again you are wrong about me, I have my own house bought and paid for. Want to try again of have you failed enough for one day?

 

[werepossum]

honesty
humility
no ego
the understanding that not everyone thinks like you
the ability to not force your own viewpoints on other people using jack booted thugs.

How about possessing the drive and intellect to support oneself before taking on the task of running the nation?

If one is healthy and yet cannot even afford one's own birth control, one probably has vanishingly little wisdom to share with the nation.

 

[werepossum]

sounds like the vagina monologues in stereo

i have no problem with the woman's skankiness, her abject progressive stupidity (see above), nor her sanguisugent political aspirations. i have a problem with anyone that believes i'm responsible for supplying ms fluke's condoms an kyj.

LOL Well said, sir.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

So you claim I made it up, which I proved I didn't, then you claim I am wrong because they don't all cost $9. And once again you are wrong about me, I have my own house bought and paid for. Want to try again of have you failed enough for one day?

Once again, you fail to comprehend that not everyone can use the cheap drugs. Talk about clueless on your part.

I saw Delta had a $49 airfare sale....using Matt1970 nonlogic, that means that everyone that has $49 has no excuse not to fly where ever they want. Right? Right? Because everyone can afford $49 right? And don't worry, according to you, there won't be any higher prices.

Bravo! Keep digging that hole deeper. And keep on with the faux rage about people daring to sing songs in languages other then English. Have you called your congressperson to demand a new law to outlaw that yet?

 

[marincounty]

After Obama, the word qualification no longer has meaning.

After Bush, you have a lot of nerve posting this.

 

[row]

IIRC, she was defending a friend who required Birth Control for some Medical Condition. My memory could be faulty on that detail though.

She's probably not yet qualified for such a position, but she's not the first person whose run in with a controversy propelled them to run for Office. That has occurred on both sides of the aisle.

You do indeed recall correctly. But Rush and like-minded people would rather attack her on a false premise than attack her arguments on a real one because they know they're wrong.

Her friend suffered from polycystic ovary syndrome which can be treated with birth control pills as a way to prevent worse symptoms that could become cancerous. If it was ANY other drug that treated an existing medical condition and potentially prevented cancer, conservatives would not care if it was being funded by taxpayers. But even though it's an entirely non-sexual use for contraceptives, because it has the side effect of making her infertile, she must be a slut and a whore and looking for taxpayers to fund her sex parties.

Gerorgetown's insurance policy is based on spiritual beliefs that prohibits the institution from supplying "contraception medications."

for...

birth control.

if a doctor prescribes birth control medication for cancer, it would obviously not be prohibited by the policy in question. :whiste:

thinking hurts

 

[sandorski]

Gerorgetown's insurance policy is based on spiritual beliefs that prohibits the institution from supplying "contraception medications."

for...

birth control.

if a doctor prescribes birth control medication for cancer, it would obviously not be prohibited by the policy in question. :whiste:

thinking hurts

Completely moot, especially when it comes to the Character Assassination many have tried to do on this woman.

 

[LunarRay]

Gerorgetown's insurance policy is based on spiritual beliefs that prohibits the institution from supplying "contraception medications."

for...

birth control.

if a doctor prescribes birth control medication for cancer, it would obviously not be prohibited by the policy in question. :whiste:

thinking hurts

Does the 'Establishment' clause enter into this... IF there are any Governmental involvements... including Property Tax, Federal Student Loan or grant scenarios, Federally funded Research, and etc.?

Aside from that, however, if the medication was termed 'Hormone adjustment' or some such and it did have a disclaimer that women wanting to become pregnant should not use this product would that be ok with Georgetown? Or should it?

 

[row]

Does the 'Establishment' clause enter into this... IF there are any Governmental involvements... including Property Tax, Federal Student Loan or grant scenarios, Federally funded Research, and etc.

if you have the time i suggest posing that question to either berrie or eric. being the aeolistic constitutional scholars they are, i'm sure you'd receive an answer as transparent as the administration that produced it. in the end though just another aca requirement being forced on a segment of society that has a legitimate right to abstain from participating. believe eric's latest battle is against the Little Sisters of the Poor. i don't know what eric is using as a prosecutorial tool, nor what defense is being mounted, but the E.C.'s "... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." may be in there somewhere. together these two are the perfect team, brothers in adelphogamy, the wife's name being Obtuse.

Aside from that, however, if the medication was termed 'Hormone adjustment' or some such and it did have a disclaimer that women wanting to become pregnant should not use this product would that be ok with Georgetown?

obviously the question has nothing to do with how the medication is "termed", but rather it's use, which will be the defining arbiter based on catholic doctrine.

Or should it?

see above

 

[Victorian Gray]

if you have the time i suggest posing that question to either berrie or eric. being the aeolistic constitutional scholars they are, i'm sure you'd receive an answer as transparent as the administration that produced it. in the end though just another aca requirement being forced on a segment of society that has a legitimate right to abstain from participating. believe eric's latest suit is against the Little Sisters of the Poor. i don't know what eric is using as a prosecutorial tool, nor what defense is being mounted, but the E.C.'s "... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." may be in there somewhere. together these two are the perfect team, brothers in adelphogamy, the wife's name being Obtuse.

It's the Little Sisters who are filing suit.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...acare-contraception-lawsuit-religious-freedom

 

[Sea Ray]

IIRC, she was defending a friend who required Birth Control for some Medical Condition. My memory could be faulty on that detail though.

She's probably not yet qualified for such a position, but she's not the first person whose run in with a controversy propelled them to run for Office. That has occurred on both sides of the aisle.

So damn what? People require meds all the time for medical conditions but the gov't doesn't require that the meds be given to them free of charge, co-pays or deductibles