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So my school district is in a budget crisis

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CarlKillerMiller

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I talked to my former physics teacher/coach about this budget crisis/referendum vote for tax hike, and he said that a big part of the blame falls on the district for teacher pay. He proceeded to rattle off the pay scales for various jobs:

First year teacher, Science/Math/PE departments: $80,000
Middle management with 10 years of experience: $140,000
PE/Driver's education teacher, 20 years: $160,000
High Seniority teacher, any department: $230,000 until retirement, 100k a year as pension


In my opinion, this is sick. just SICK. The school district is literally drowning in debt, and this is their answer to it. The proposed cuts if the tax hike doesn't pass do NOT include teacher pay cuts.


Are these pay scales normal?
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
I talked to my former physics teacher/coach about this budget crisis/referendum vote for tax hike, and he said that a big part of the blame falls on the district for teacher pay. He proceeded to rattle off the pay scales for various jobs:

First year teacher, Science/Math/PE departments: $80,000
Middle management with 10 years of experience: $140,000
PE/Driver's education teacher, 20 years: $160,000
High Seniority teacher, any department: $230,000 until retirement, 100k a year as pension


In my opinion, this is sick. just SICK. The school district is literally drowning in debt, and this is their answer to it. The proposed tax cuts if the tax hike doesn't pass do NOT include teacher pay cuts.


Are these pay scales normal?
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Where did you go to friggin school? I'm changing careers and moving there!
 
First year teachers here start off between 30k and 40k as far as I know. The problem at the school district my mom works at, is the upper management is pissing away money on board room renovations and the like...
 
I've never heard of a school paying teachers that much. I'd say that's downright unbelievable in a public school system. The teachers would be making more than the rest of the citizens. And citizens don't like it when public servants make more money than them.
 
No those are not normal numbers. Around here (Nebraska) teachers start in the upper $20k range and quickly climb to the upper $40k range and then pay raises are few and far between. Adding on coaching will give you a few more thousand dollars.
 
Not only that, for running an after-school activity for a period of three months in which 1 meeting a week is required, teachers are paid 3000 dollars.
 
Wow, there's no way in hell that's true. I am friends with many teachers (both teachers I've had, and friends that their career is teaching) and none of them ever get paid that much. One of the teachers that I had and still am really good friends with has the most seniority in the entire school and I know she doesn't make more then 100-120k a year.

That's just ridiculous and I question the accuracy.
 
Originally posted by: aplefka
Wow, there's no way in hell that's true. I am friends with many teachers (both teachers I've had, and friends that their career is teaching) and none of them ever get paid that much. One of the teachers that I had and still am really good friends with has the most seniority in the entire school and I know she doesn't make more then 100-120k a year.

That's just ridiculous and I question the accuracy.
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Well, the figures came from a teacher who admitted to making 80k when he started. There's no feasible reson for him to lie about it, I don't think.
 
that cant be true

my former P.E. teacher worked at the school since it opened since 73' and he only makes like 90000

are you in a private school
 
Originally posted by: dullard
No those are not normal numbers. Around here (Nebraska) teachers start in the upper $20k range and quickly climb to the upper $40k range and then pay raises are few and far between. Adding on coaching will give you a few more thousand dollars.
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Same here in the Midwest.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
No those are not normal numbers. Around here (Nebraska) teachers start in the upper $20k range and quickly climb to the upper $40k range and then pay raises are few and far between. Adding on coaching will give you a few more thousand dollars.
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That's about the same here in Oregon, although it takes far longer to reach the top, and the top is only in the 30's; a few damn good teachers can reach the 40's, anything past that is basically reserved for administrators.
 
I just looked at your profile. Still in Chicago? My sister is the sole public for-profit preschool teacher in Chicago. Thus she gets a big pay boost over other teachers in Chicago with her experience level. Even then she is in upper $50k range (Masters degree and 7 years experience). Thus I don't believe PE teachers are getting $160k.
 
Originally posted by: aplefka
Wow, there's no way in hell that's true. I am friends with many teachers (both teachers I've had, and friends that their career is teaching) and none of them ever get paid that much. One of the teachers that I had and still am really good friends with has the most seniority in the entire school and I know she doesn't make more then 100-120k a year.

That's just ridiculous and I question the accuracy.
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Even 120 is too much, if you ask me. I know career professors who don't make that.

I think their salary should be tied to success rates. You want 120? Show me why you deserve it.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
I just looked at your profile. Still in Chicago? My sister is the sole public for-profit preschool teacher in Chicago. Thus she gets a big pay boost over other teachers in Chicago with her experience level. Even then she is in upper $50k range (Masters degree and 7 years experience). Thus I don't believe PE teachers are getting $160k.
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Yes, I am still in a suburb of chicago. My district happens to be one of the (or the) highest paid in the state.
 
That doesn't make any sense. I have never heard of a public school teacher making over $60k a year, period. As far as I know, here in Florida, the average is probably more like $35k-45k. If the pay was that high in your area, there would literally be teachers killing other teachers for their jobs.

 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
Originally posted by: dullard
I just looked at your profile. Still in Chicago? My sister is the sole public for-profit preschool teacher in Chicago. Thus she gets a big pay boost over other teachers in Chicago with her experience level. Even then she is in upper $50k range (Masters degree and 7 years experience). Thus I don't believe PE teachers are getting $160k.
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Yes, I am still in a suburb of chicago. My district happens to be one of the (or the) highest paid in the state.
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Humm, you aren't in Hinsdale, are you?
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
Originally posted by: dullard
I just looked at your profile. Still in Chicago? My sister is the sole public for-profit preschool teacher in Chicago. Thus she gets a big pay boost over other teachers in Chicago with her experience level. Even then she is in upper $50k range (Masters degree and 7 years experience). Thus I don't believe PE teachers are getting $160k.
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Yes, I am still in a suburb of chicago. My district happens to be one of the (or the) highest paid in the state.
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And what suburb is that?
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
Yes, I am still in a suburb of chicago. My district happens to be one of the (or the) highest paid in the state.
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Is it possible that your physics teacher is adding in the social security, medicare, benefits, etc into that cost? That would certainly explain a lot.

For example: a 40% cost for taxes and benefits is a good rough estimate (I don't know exactly what benefits teachers in Chicago get). Thus a $50k salary would cost the district ~$70k. But that doesn't mean the teacher has a $70k salary.
 
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