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So my school district is in a budget crisis

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Shens.

Call it what you will, but consider this first:

1. I have no reason at all to lie about this. It wouldn't benefit me in any way.
2. Even if these figures are off, it's highly unlikely that they're off by an incredible amount.
3. My source has no reason to lie.
4. My spanish teacher owns a small ranch and two horses.
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
Originally posted by: jumpr
Shens.

Call it what you will, but consider this first:

1. I have no reason at all to lie about this. It wouldn't benefit me in any way.
2. Even if these figures are off, it's highly unlikely that they're off by an incredible amount.
3. My source has no reason to lie.
4. My spanish teacher owns a small ranch and two horses.

Your source has a reason to lie. And even if you gain nothing from this, that doesn't mean you wouldn't be saying it anyways. I stand by my shens. Prove it.
 
My AP US History Teacher in HS was brilliant, had decades of experience, and I believe she got paid around $40,000/year at my public school, the 16th best HS in VA, which was in a rich neighborhood.

IIRC, she was the head of the department.

 
Feb 2005 article has following info for Chicago.

Average high school principal salary, $111,500,
Average teacher salaries?from $35,232 to $65,734 Avg 54,766 (from ILL State Board of ED)

Some teachers will get extra $$ by moonlight on after school programs.

Some-one was pulling your leg.
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
What is my source's reason to lie?


Second, what would you like? Sound clips, tax filings, perhaps a pay stub?

Tax filings are public record, I do believe.
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
Originally posted by: jumpr
Shens.

Call it what you will, but consider this first:

1. I have no reason at all to lie about this. It wouldn't benefit me in any way.
2. Even if these figures are off, it's highly unlikely that they're off by an incredible amount.
3. My source has no reason to lie.
4. My spanish teacher owns a small ranch and two horses.

What do the cars in the teacher parking lot look like?

If everybody isn't in a BMW or equivelent then those numbers are so BS
 
Beginning teachers where I live make 31K.

Teachers who have been teaching for YEARS and have a MA make about 45-50K.

<---is a teacher, mother was a teacher with an MA

So, this must be a VERY unusual school district--- like NYC or San Fran, where the cost of living is so high the teachers HAVE to make a certain amount to be able to teach/live there.
 
Originally posted by: flot
That doesn't make any sense. I have never heard of a public school teacher making over $60k a year, period. As far as I know, here in Florida, the average is probably more like $35k-45k. If the pay was that high in your area, there would literally be teachers killing other teachers for their jobs.


Teachers at my old school on LI used to make about 100k+ when they had some experience.

When I went to HS in Mass., teachers there madea about 60k maximum.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Chraticn
Originally posted by: jumpr
Shens.

Call it what you will, but consider this first:

1. I have no reason at all to lie about this. It wouldn't benefit me in any way.
2. Even if these figures are off, it's highly unlikely that they're off by an incredible amount.
3. My source has no reason to lie.
4. My spanish teacher owns a small ranch and two horses.

Your source has a reason to lie. And even if you gain nothing from this, that doesn't mean you wouldn't be saying it anyways. I stand by my shens. Prove it.


If I am not mistaken, all public employee salaries are public. Meaning you can go to town hall and get the figures.

Actually in my town, they publish an annual report that has the value of everyones home in the town, the public employees salaries, and all other public information.
 
Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Originally posted by: flot
That doesn't make any sense. I have never heard of a public school teacher making over $60k a year, period. As far as I know, here in Florida, the average is probably more like $35k-45k. If the pay was that high in your area, there would literally be teachers killing other teachers for their jobs.


Teachers at my old school on LI used to make about 100k+ when they had some experience.

When I went to HS in Mass., teachers there madea about 60k maximum.


Whoa, where did you live in MA? Teachers around here only get 50k max now, and that is in a rich city like Andover.
 
Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Originally posted by: flot
That doesn't make any sense. I have never heard of a public school teacher making over $60k a year, period. As far as I know, here in Florida, the average is probably more like $35k-45k. If the pay was that high in your area, there would literally be teachers killing other teachers for their jobs.


Teachers at my old school on LI used to make about 100k+ when they had some experience.

When I went to HS in Mass., teachers there madea about 60k maximum.

Where the cost of living is higher, the teachers make more $$$. How much does it take to live at a 'middle class' standard in Taxachusetts?

I live in FL and an average 2 bedroom apt is about $800 per month. That is just a little under half of a beginning teacher's monthly pay. It's OK for those who are first starting out, but forget trying to raise a family. There are some husband/wife teachers I know of--- they do OK with their combined salaries but usually one of them tries to work up the administration ladder. Principals down here make about 60K. Wooo hooo! 😛
 
Originally posted by: Chraticn
Not only that, for running an after-school activity for a period of three months in which 1 meeting a week is required, teachers are paid 3000 dollars.

So? Do you have ****ANY**** idea how much work can go into those after school programs, or are you just spouting this out of your ass?
 
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Originally posted by: flot
That doesn't make any sense. I have never heard of a public school teacher making over $60k a year, period. As far as I know, here in Florida, the average is probably more like $35k-45k. If the pay was that high in your area, there would literally be teachers killing other teachers for their jobs.


Teachers at my old school on LI used to make about 100k+ when they had some experience.

When I went to HS in Mass., teachers there madea about 60k maximum.


Whoa, where did you live in MA? Teachers around here only get 50k max now, and that is in a rich city like Andover.


Cape Cod. Pretty rich area.
 
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: dullard
No those are not normal numbers. Around here (Nebraska) teachers start in the upper $20k range and quickly climb to the upper $40k range and then pay raises are few and far between. Adding on coaching will give you a few more thousand dollars.
That's about the same here in Oregon, although it takes far longer to reach the top, and the top is only in the 30's; a few damn good teachers can reach the 40's, anything past that is basically reserved for administrators.
Uh no. Teachers in Oregon start at about $30k and top out around $60k (with Masters). Administrators with Doctorates can make up to a little over $80k. My father and stepmother are both retired teachers (and I've also done a lot of mortgages for teachers, so I've seen the W-2's).

I call shens on the OP. That is nowhere near normal....
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: dullard
No those are not normal numbers. Around here (Nebraska) teachers start in the upper $20k range and quickly climb to the upper $40k range and then pay raises are few and far between. Adding on coaching will give you a few more thousand dollars.
That's about the same here in Oregon, although it takes far longer to reach the top, and the top is only in the 30's; a few damn good teachers can reach the 40's, anything past that is basically reserved for administrators.
Uh no. Teachers in Oregon start at about $30k and top out around $60k (with Masters). Administrators with Doctorates can make up to a little over $80k. My father and stepmother are both retired teachers (and I've also done a lot of mortgages for teachers, so I've seen the W-2's).

I call shens on the OP. That is nowhere near normal....


Don't criticize the person you quoted, salaries can vary greatly within a state.
 
Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Don't criticize the person you quoted, salaries can vary greatly within a state.
I didn't criticize. I politely corrected. Following Measure 5, financial control of the schools in Oregon is now on a state level, and although some district variance does occur (which is paid for by local property taxes), salaries are roughly uniform throughout the entire state. One reason why Portland, with the highest cost of living in the state, has difficulty getting the best teachers.
 
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