yeah I got busted last week for DLing a stupid tv episode!!! I mean I know its not yet showing in the US (battlestar gallactica) but still its just a tv show, (I download alot of other things that I should be getting in trouble for but I've always considerd tv shows pretty safe)
I'm up in Canada. Toronto to be exact. Up here the cable service actually has some great options. Regular is 3mb/s and they have extreme which is 5mb/s. Both cost the same ($50 can) a month, but with extreme you buy the docsis2 modem outright rather than rent one (its $100 for the modem). So its also a good deal. If I am ever around in the daytime on a weekday or late, late at night any day I really do get from 500-600kb/s download. And in peak times get at least 300kb/s max. Although the 500 really seems to be limited to off peak times that i get that much throughput. Back on the point here though 
, I use bit torrent myself and know people who do up here as well, who are also on cable internet. Up here we don't get hassled about what we are doing exactly, but rogers has been known to call and say 'you're data transfer is insane, tone it down or you get cut off' A cut off is usually 1 week than they turn you back on. But from what I've heard as of late, if you have extreme they don't say anything to you concerning bandwidth usage and we are NEVER asked about what we are doing privately at home on our computers. God bless Canada, we are truly in the land of the free. :beer:
, I use bit torrent myself and know people who do up here as well, who are also on cable internet. Up here we don't get hassled about what we are doing exactly, but rogers has been known to call and say 'you're data transfer is insane, tone it down or you get cut off' A cut off is usually 1 week than they turn you back on. But from what I've heard as of late, if you have extreme they don't say anything to you concerning bandwidth usage and we are NEVER asked about what we are doing privately at home on our computers. God bless Canada, we are truly in the land of the free. :beer:I think its:
http://www.methlabs.org/methlabs.htm
For those who has never used it don't freak out if you get alot of connections rejected from company's or even the MPAA. Chances are its not the MPAA or whatever. It blocks so many IP's its not funny. I have to disable it to connect to maxtor.com.
If you can't get onto a certain website make sure it ain't blocking it. But I been using it for a year or longer now and have it load with WinXP. I've even had it block my ISP's email server which is funny.
bamacre
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I consider the government listening to packets just like listening to my phone conversation. They need a warrant for that stuff. They need a solid reason for doing so. What happened to our right of privacy.
In regards to the situation at hand, I would have recommended the OP deny. Deny, deny, deny until your nuts fall off. What are they going to say? "Because your bandwidth usage was so high, we had reason to believe you were pirating media," wtf? There are tons of reasons to have a high bandwidth usage.
The cops might as well pull people over as soon as they leave the bar parking lot.
:disgust: As an American, I sometimes feel like Dorothy. Lost, with no way back.
In regards to the situation at hand, I would have recommended the OP deny. Deny, deny, deny until your nuts fall off. What are they going to say? "Because your bandwidth usage was so high, we had reason to believe you were pirating media," wtf? There are tons of reasons to have a high bandwidth usage.
The cops might as well pull people over as soon as they leave the bar parking lot.
:disgust: As an American, I sometimes feel like Dorothy. Lost, with no way back.
Yea, I denied it at first, then the guy said, you record indicate you've uploaded a gigabytes worth of data. It's video file, the name of the file is I.Robot screener . . . . something along those lines. I was speechless. I didn't know what to say so i just said it must've been my brother who was using my computer. I know it was lame but if he knows the file name. . .next thing he's probably gonna tell me the file names of my porn stash on my computer. . .peer guardian blocked espn.com . . .which i thought was really funny. Probably cuz ESPN/ABC is owned by the Walt Disney Corporation. otherwise, they might think i'm downloading sportscenter episodes. . .
While I would like to agree with you on this one. Where is the probably cause? I know this is an analogy but if the wasn't puking all over himself or can't even walk straight, where is the probably cause for pulling him over?
Likewise, I may used a lot of bandwidth. But I could've been uploading family home videos for all they know. Does that give them the right to look in to what I'm using the bandwidth for? I'm not trying to justify illegal file sharing. I'm just curious as to whether or not they have the right to do so.
Well, if you're distributing copyright files, it's against the law and (probably) against your ISP's TOS. So, it sucks, but you can't say you didn't deserve it..
What's the moral of the story here? Don't illegally swap files!
Like I said before nothing is private. That's why the feds can sniff you without a warrent, unlike a phone call.
For example in my state once I looked at the courts and what they considure is proper warrentless legal search and it goes along these lines:
A regular person can look thru your windows. Therefore a cop can look thru your windows and if they see you smoking a doobie then they can come in and bust you.
However you can be sitting in plain site and if they pound on the door to be let in you don't even have to get up and talk to them. Unless they are seeking a fugitive, of course.
Also for example a 3 foot tall fence is only usefull for setting boundries and animal control. Hoping over it is something that is normal for people to do and it's not tresspassing. So cops can do that to, if for instance, they want to look into your garage thru it's windows.
However if you have no trespassing signs posted or you have a six foot fence with a locked gate then that's designed to keep people out and it's not reasonable for a cop to climb over it for no reason.
Of course these rules are going to vary from place to place by quite a bit...
So that's how things are, I am supposing, on the internet. What you do on the internet is in plain view. It's like your smoking crack on a public steet or something. If somebody sees you doing it....
That's why you have to use encrypted tunnels (VPN's) and encrypted corrispondance like email. The police force is the least of your worries, right now there is wholesale fraud going down.
It's now a multimillion dollar industry to go screw people over on the internet.
Personally if my ISP gave me a warning then I would tell them right away to just drop me from my service and I'd go elsewhere. I pay like $50 a month for 3mb service and I think I should be able to d/l whatever I want if I decide to.
I've got Brighthouse (Time Warner) cable here in Palm Harbor, FL and I got a nasty Email from them a few years ago. I uploaded a Family Guy episode to a newsgroup and they said I was reported by the MPAA for distributing copyrighted material. Keep in mind that at the time Family Guy was cancelled, not in syndication, and not available on DVD. If you wanted to watch it the only way to do so was download the episodes.
I called them about the Email and they said I had to acknowledge it and return it with a promise that I wouldn't violate my TOS again or I would be dropped. I never returned the Email and it didn't go any further than that.
FWIW I legally own both Family Guy DVD sets...
I called them about the Email and they said I had to acknowledge it and return it with a promise that I wouldn't violate my TOS again or I would be dropped. I never returned the Email and it didn't go any further than that.
FWIW I legally own both Family Guy DVD sets...
That doesn't matter at all. Some one still owns the rights to Family Guy and that some one isn't you.
Lethal
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The 'patriot act' is a big factor.
If you guys only knew what your cell phone companies have setup now.
(I know a cell site operator that works with the government 'acts')
Your ISP's will be operating in the same fashion.
'the man' is everywhere now
('we' the people voted our 'patriot act')
If you guys only knew what your cell phone companies have setup now.
(I know a cell site operator that works with the government 'acts')
Your ISP's will be operating in the same fashion.
'the man' is everywhere now
('we' the people voted our 'patriot act')
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
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Yes, it's called - wait for it - the "Digital Millenium Copyright Act".. Oooh, so scary and sinister-sounding, isn't it? "Digital" and "millenium" - it's like the Y2K disaster made real... wait... uh-oh. That *is* the real "Y2K disaster", isn't it?
Welcome to 1998, Drag.
What the heck, the RIAA started sueing 15-year-olds and grandmothers. It doesn't really matter, they make the money from the settlements either way. Look at what DirectTv started doing, sueing electronics hobbiest that bought mail-order parts. They made millions suing innocent people and settling out of court! Until one court finally got some sense and put a kibosh on their devious little plan, that is.
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
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You want to know my honest opinion? You're an idiot.
BT users are directly exposed, there is no way to hide your IP, and your biggest mistake (given the current legal climate), was both sharing (uploading) and "seeding". Yes, the RIAA and MPAA are going after end-users that are sharing, especially college students, often using the university's high-speed networking connections.
Good luck at your trial. You should be thankful that your ISP let you off easy, if the only thing that happens to you is losing your internet connection.
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
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Or just pull over anyone, anytime, for any reason. I mean, why bother with "legal rights" anymore. Just more worthless, expensive, red-tape, right?
Nothinman
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My point was that most people pay atleast $50 for cable TV and don't get to watch whatever they want, whenever they want so why should you be special because you have an Internet connection? The fact that you have an Internet connection doesn't remove the rights held by the people who created that content.
wow somebody is cranky today....
in other news I found out my ISP has a killer free newgroup server
don't think i'll be using much of bittorrent any more It's not like I'm trying to get you guys to say I didn't do anything wrong. I was just trying to make the point that I thought I was a relative nobody compared to the amount of files other people share over BT. If they're gonna crack down on me, then 99.9% of BT users should've been cut off already. I was taken completely off guard over the fact that they were able to get such detailed info of what I was doing with the service. I'm not being sued or anything, they let me off with one strike and a warning. I guess they had bigger fish to fry.
I know for a fact that many of my college buddies share files over BT using the school's T1 lines, can the school's network admin know which room the files are being uploaded from? I guess i'm really naive as far as internet privacy goes, i've just never had any problems until the past few days. Once burned, twice shy.
I know for a fact that many of my college buddies share files over BT using the school's T1 lines, can the school's network admin know which room the files are being uploaded from? I guess i'm really naive as far as internet privacy goes, i've just never had any problems until the past few days. Once burned, twice shy.
the problem with BT is by design everything is in the open. so if the company that is trying to catch people stealing thier software see's your IP and can get some of the file from you over the torrent your caught. peergaurdian helps but is not fullproof...
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