So my 25 year old friend is dating a 16 year old

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
I believe that in the cultures where women get hitched at age 12 it's alright for them.

I think that is rubbish. These women are often oppressed by their culture, not to speak of circumcized, which is not OK. But that's another story. They might accept that, but that's just because there's little that can be done against it. Yes they mature differently, but 12....??

On topic: I find it very hard to judge on that. Make sure he knows what you think of it. To form an opinion you'd have to know all the ins & outs. I think he is a fool if he doesn't know what it looks like, true or not.
 

TheVrolok

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I'd just like to say that those of you who think a 16 year old is more than capable of making his/her own decisions about a serious relationship with someone 9 years his/her senior are seriously out of your mind. At 16 and 25 these two people are at COMPLETELY different places in their lives and sit on very little common ground, any relationship based on this discrepency is set up to fail.
 

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'd just like to say that those of you who think a 16 year old is more than capable of making his/her own decisions about a serious relationship with someone 9 years his/her senior are seriously out of your mind. At 16 and 25 these two people are at COMPLETELY different places in their lives and sit on very little common ground, any relationship based on this discrepency is set up to fail.

again with the sweeping generalizations..

you fail at life..

you cannot put all people in 1 bag.. the world is not a black and white place..
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
so many prudes and snitches in this thread. very disappointing.

Come back when you have a 16 year old daughter and she's dating a 25 year old adult.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'd just like to say that those of you who think a 16 year old is more than capable of making his/her own decisions about a serious relationship with someone 9 years his/her senior are seriously out of your mind. At 16 and 25 these two people are at COMPLETELY different places in their lives and sit on very little common ground, any relationship based on this discrepency is set up to fail.

again with the sweeping generalizations..

you fail at life..

you cannot put all people in 1 bag.. the world is not a black and white place..

I fail at life? Because I believe that in some cases there is a clear black and white, right and wrong? Are you that diluded? Not everything is grey. Would you also be ok with a 25 year old dating a 15 year old, or a 14 year old? After all that's only another year or two difference. Most 16 year olds are just getting a driver's license and most 25 year olds are in the working world trying to create a life for themselves. If you can see any common ground here, please let me know.
 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'd just like to say that those of you who think a 16 year old is more than capable of making his/her own decisions about a serious relationship with someone 9 years his/her senior are seriously out of your mind. At 16 and 25 these two people are at COMPLETELY different places in their lives and sit on very little common ground, any relationship based on this discrepency is set up to fail.

again with the sweeping generalizations..

you fail at life..

you cannot put all people in 1 bag.. the world is not a black and white place..

I fail at life? Because I believe that in some cases there is a clear black and white, right and wrong? Are you that diluded? Not everything is grey. Would you also be ok with a 25 year old dating a 15 year old, or a 14 year old? After all that's only another year or two difference. Most 16 year olds are just getting a driver's license and most 25 year olds are in the working world trying to create a life for themselves. If you can see any common ground here, please let me know.

you jsut used the, 'only a couple year's difference argument' between 14/15 and 16, whic is apparently OK, so remind me why its not OK to apply this same logic to the ages 16 and 18?

Also, yeah, most sixteen y/o ARE just getting their drivers lisence, so shouldn't they also be able to decide at that age, who they can have intercourse with? Maybe we should have sex licenses...
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: newParadigm
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'd just like to say that those of you who think a 16 year old is more than capable of making his/her own decisions about a serious relationship with someone 9 years his/her senior are seriously out of your mind. At 16 and 25 these two people are at COMPLETELY different places in their lives and sit on very little common ground, any relationship based on this discrepency is set up to fail.

again with the sweeping generalizations..

you fail at life..

you cannot put all people in 1 bag.. the world is not a black and white place..

I fail at life? Because I believe that in some cases there is a clear black and white, right and wrong? Are you that diluded? Not everything is grey. Would you also be ok with a 25 year old dating a 15 year old, or a 14 year old? After all that's only another year or two difference. Most 16 year olds are just getting a driver's license and most 25 year olds are in the working world trying to create a life for themselves. If you can see any common ground here, please let me know.

you jsut used the, 'only a couple year's difference argument' between 14/15 and 16, whic is apparently OK, so remind me why its not OK to apply this same logic to the ages 16 and 18?

Also, yeah, most sixteen y/o ARE just getting their drivers lisence, so shouldn't they also be able to decide at that age, who they can have intercourse with? Maybe we should have sex licenses...

What are you arguing with me about? :p I don't understand what you're saying about 16-18? I never said I thought there was anything wrong with an 18-16 relationship, it was the 25 year olds dating the 16 year olds I have issues with.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: aidanjm
so many prudes and snitches in this thread. very disappointing.

Come back when you have a 16 year old daughter and she's dating a 25 year old adult.
CPA, would you object to a 19 or 20 yr old dating your daughter? I agree, 25 is kinda lame. He should be tappin' the college wimminz.
 

SampSon

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If that's his perogative then so be it.
16 is the age of consent in this state. Of course the parents could press charges, but only completely ignorant assholes who think their child is a saint would do that (turns out the vast majority do :roll: )
 

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: newParadigm
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'd just like to say that those of you who think a 16 year old is more than capable of making his/her own decisions about a serious relationship with someone 9 years his/her senior are seriously out of your mind. At 16 and 25 these two people are at COMPLETELY different places in their lives and sit on very little common ground, any relationship based on this discrepency is set up to fail.

again with the sweeping generalizations..

you fail at life..

you cannot put all people in 1 bag.. the world is not a black and white place..

I fail at life? Because I believe that in some cases there is a clear black and white, right and wrong? Are you that diluded? Not everything is grey. Would you also be ok with a 25 year old dating a 15 year old, or a 14 year old? After all that's only another year or two difference. Most 16 year olds are just getting a driver's license and most 25 year olds are in the working world trying to create a life for themselves. If you can see any common ground here, please let me know.

you just used the, 'only a couple year's difference argument' between 14/15 and 16, whic is apparently OK, so remind me why its not OK to apply this same logic to the ages 16 and 18?

Also, yeah, most sixteen y/o ARE just getting their drivers lisence, so shouldn't they also be able to decide at that age, who they can have intercourse with? Maybe we should have sex licenses...

What are you arguing with me about? :p I don't understand what you're saying about 16-18? I never said I thought there was anything wrong with an 18-16 relationship, it was the 25 year olds dating the 16 year olds I have issues with.

I wasn't talking about a relationship between the ages i mentioned, but how you compared a 14/15 y/o to a 16 y/o, and said how close in age they are, when you yourself debunked the argument about girls that are 16 being close to 18.
 

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Originally posted by: SampSon
If that's his perogative then so be it.
16 is the age of consent in this state. Of course the parents could press charges, but only completely ignorant assholes who think their child is a saint would do that (turns out the vast majority do :roll: )

How could they press any charges if it's legal? Really, maybe I'm missing something.
 

doggyfromplanetwoof

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Who cares if its legal or not.

It is up to the person(s) involved to make it a morale decision if its right or wrong.

Quite frankly, If I was 25 and dating a 16 year old, I would look upon my self and ask this question:

What the f**k am I doing? I must be a loser for not getting anyone my age.
 

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Considering I don't know the people, I won't say what I think of the situation.

Everyone seems to be assuming that they're sexually active. Maybe they're not. It is possible, you know. Some men's brains are actually above their center of gravity.

People made these comments about me when I (20) was with a 15 year old girl. I realize that during that 5 year age gap people learn and change a lot but that can be managed if the 2 really like each other. Both of our parents were very much involved. Her mom was so involved it broke us up...
 

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Originally posted by: Nebor
What a diaper sniper.

Haha, hilarious.

I know a 25 year old guy who is going out with a 17 year old. It's all legal and who am I to say anything about it, I mean sure the girl is not the smartest she is going to be at 17 and I honestly don't know how he can stand talking to her, she's a little immature.

On the other hand, he doesn't exactly treat her like ******, so I don't care actually she has a pretty good deal he takes her out to some really nice places. If she's using him, well that's his problem, tried to explain that it's a possiblity but he doesn't seem to want to hear it.

Like a lot of others have said, if it's legal...what you gonna do?
 

pkme2

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Check the State Laws. Here in Hawaii, its down to Hawaii to 14. Sometimes, we have to change the Laws.
There's a lot of 14 yr olds that get pregnant by adults and the families are helpless to do anything about it.
The problem is how society handles these situations. Talking about it doesn't help. Its now down to action.
Saturate your Congressman with letters and petitions. Maybe things will change........
 

Davan

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This whole thread and age limits in general is such arbitrary bullshit.

Do all you people seriously think theres some magic thing that happens to girls and guys when they turn 17 or 18 that makes them all of a sudden turn able to make good decisions sexually? In many parts of Asia and Indonesia marriage (and childbirth) is perfectly normaly from 10-12. Shouldnt we be sanctioning these countries? I mean they are corrupting their children right? We should go free them from this oppression? If not, what makes it ok there and not ok here?

Male-Female sex is legal at 12 in Mexico. 12? Thats disgusting right? I mean it must be cause its different from our arbirtrary number.



Ill tell you what the TRUE effect of age of consent laws are, and thats a form of control and freedom. It allows parents the freedom to not be parents, and then have the legal right to be infuriated and have a victim other than themselves if their "underage" children make a consentual choice.

In most countries with a lower age of consent law, families are expected to care for, and keep their children in line, until such time as they feel they are ready to move into adult decision making. If youre a parent, and you know where your legal ward is and what they are doing, they dont have sex with 25 year olds when they are 16.

Rape is rape, choice is choice, and parenting is parenting.
 

kmrivers

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I'm not going to read the whole thread. However, if they are just dating it is fine. They both can do what they want, I am 22 and would personally never date someone under 18 to avoid problems and drama. Just tell him to keep it legal, otherwise there may be problems.
 

KouklatheCat

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That is sooooooooooooooo wrong.

I kno in CA "unlawful intercourse with a minor" even if it was consensual he goes to jail and gets tagged as a sex offender for life IF convicted.
 

pkme2

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Not unless you put kids under lock and key; or have a person chaperoned 24/7. Kids are going to be violated and you can't do a thing about it.

It's society's pariah and unless parents stop leaving those kids alone; these problems will always exist. Keeping tabs on your kids, talking to them, but nevertheless who has the time.

Again, we know where the problems lie, so are we going to accept or are we just giving this lip service.
How many of you out there are willing to step up and make a difference. I'm waiting......
 

JBT

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The avg 25 yr old and the avg 16 yr old going out I think it plain wrong. Your friend seems like a dumb ass so its sounds okay to me.
 

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If he's playing his cards right, he should be using what I call the "reward system". She does well in school, such as getting all A's on her tests, and he gives her something 'special'.

But seriously, IF they are having sex, and IF its consensual, then who's business is it what they do?

I'm inclined to agree with Davan that age limits in general are arbitrary bullshit. Just because someone turns 16/18/whatnot, doesn't mean they are suddenly mature.

And as for the "It's the law, and we should just blindly fallow the law and accept whatever BS it says" crowd: Please do us all a favor and don't breed. You make for lousy parents and are bound to screw up your children in some way. And in cases where you aren't screwing them up yourself, you are likely to be doing it indirectly by having TV or the government raising your kids for you.
 

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Originally posted by: MetalMat
My buddy broke up with his gf last year, and was always telling me and my gf that he was lonely and wanted a gf. Now is is dating a 16 year old girl and they are "in love". I think he is just taking what he can get personally, but he thinks that dating someone still in high school is ok. Anybody else find this wrong?


if he dating a 16 year old, she must be awesome in bed or somethen. But yeah that is just wrong though dating a 16 year old. Time to get involve and tell him to dump her or your turning him in. When I was back in highschool, this girl I knew that was 14, she was dating some 26 year old guy, ewww gross.