Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Davan
Originally posted by: Chryso
Consent is not consent if one party is not mature enough to make such decisions.
There is no litmus test to maturity. Again, in many parts of the world, marriage and childbirth/childrearing begins in the 10-12 year range. Would you take this right away from these people? I mean clearly if 16 isnt old enough for -anyone- to have sex then 10 is far far too young, correct? Am I misunderstanding something here?
Do you think women in their 30's with mental retardation have the ability and maturity to make choices about sex?
Ill say it once more, and highlight the most important parts -----
Rape is rape,
consent is consent, and
PARENTING is parenting. Its impossible to have one unless the others are NOT PRESENT.
I think that in those countries where children get married and have children in the 10 to 12 year range they are also not mature enough to do it. However, I have no say so as to the laws of those countries. By voting I do have a say so as to the laws in this country. Just because they do things in other countries doesn't make it right. In China they kill female infants if the couple wants a boy, does that make it right and mean that we should also do it? This is what you seem to be implying.
I also don't know what the hell you think that rape is rape quote means but just because you say it doesn't make it true either.
First of all, this -
In China they kill female infants if the couple wants a boy
Is not true, and is racist. Murder is no more legal in China than it is here.
Secondly -
I have no say so as to the laws of those countries.
Also not true. Why do you think there is so much pressure on 3rd world nations from our government to avoid coal burning industrialization? (Hint: Pollution) Why do you think there is so much pressure on other countries to crack down on American copyright infringement from our government? (Hint: Its not cause they give a ****** if Britney Spears makes another million...) Why do you think that we are involved in the (by your standards THEIR business) rush for WMDs in Iraq, Iran and NKorea?
You need to consider the big picture. The government pushes those agendas that their constituents tell them to push. So as a voter, you have made the decision that its ok for them, and not ok for us (And, might I add, heavily modifiable even within state lines in the US.) You, and most other posters, have jumped to conclusions about the situations surrounding this relationship without either
A) Asking even what state it was in to see if it WAS legal
and
B) Asking what the females involvement level is in the relationship.
Noone here seems to even give a crap what the girls involvement is in the situation. Apparently she has made a choice, and one that either does not bother her legal guardians, or they are unaware of because she is 'out of control.' Why youre all so hot and bothered to go lynch the guy, and I can only suppose give complete indemnity against any wrong doing to either her or her parents. Its akin to blaming video games for middle school violence, turning a blind eye to the role of parenting in the equation.
Pass judgement on something else, your witch hunt is quite frankly disgusting (much more disgusting than your imagined outrage at your imagined crime.)
I also don't know what the hell you think that rape is rape quote means but just because you say it doesn't make it true either.
Then let me explain.
Parents do not allow children to have consentual sex, and they do not allow their children to be raped. Sex is not rape if it is consentual (no matter the age.)
Essentially what I am saying is that only one of the above conditions can be true at any one time. You can be raped, you can have consentual sex, or you have parents that allow neither. Dont confuse the parameters.
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