so many cheap guns, so little time so I got only one

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Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: bockchow
i have a chinese SKS that i'm going to be selling soon. i'm not a fan of how the mags lock in. i should be buying a Springfield M1A as soon as i decide exactly what i want and how much i'm willing to spend.

SKS's were never meant to use detachable mags. You CAN use them, but with the adverse effects you described. :p

- M4H

This space rented by Shockwave.

You lose a bet?

Nah, just an excellent way to up my postcount while learning about firearms. :D

- M4H
 

Pliablemoose

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I'm looking @ AK's, anyone have a particular folding stock preference?

The side wire folder is definitely out, but don't know much about the other 2.

the underfolder looks the best.

http://www.vectorarms.com/indexframe.html

Torn between the wooden furniture & the plastic too, I like the traditional look of the wood, but the plastic would look better if abused.:confused:
 

poopaskoopa

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Reon
links? i am a fellow gun nut. and wtf are you gonna do with a dragunov?

Shoot with it.

Yeah, shoot the yellowpages. I bet it'll go through at least 8 of them taped together. We found out that 9mms will only go through 4 Charlotte yellow pages, but we shot at 8 yellowpage phonebooks taped together with a 7.62x51 round and we couldn't find where it went. We found the entry hole but couldn't figure out where it went. It wasn't in the 8 phonebooks though. We shot it from about 20 yards away.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm looking @ AK's, anyone have a particular folding stock preference?

The side wire folder is definitely out, but don't know much about the other 2.

the underfolder looks the best.

http://www.vectorarms.com/indexframe.html

Torn between the wooden furniture & the plastic too, I like the traditional look of the wood, but the plastic would look better if abused.:confused:

Underfolder is the way to go IMO.

Also, Tapco is selling a AK side folder based off the Galil stock.
 

edro

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Get a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for about $80 and a Kar98 for around $150 and play war games in your back yard!
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm all about quality and less about quantity.

How so?

A few quality guns rather than a bunch of cheap ones.

I'm migrating towards that myself, I'm looking at a $900 Rohrbaugh instead of its <$300 Kel-tec equivalent.

Viper GTS
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: edro13
Get a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for about $80 and a Kar98 for around $150 and play war games in your back yard!

Don't forget to use live ammo! :laugh:
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm all about quality and less about quantity.

How so?

Well, I could list my arsenal but it would take some time.

Here are some of the finer guns in my collection, IMHO:

Beretta 20 gauge over/under shotgun
Colt Officer's model, .45 ACP
Para-Ordnanca LDA 7.45, .45 ACP
Smith &amp; Wesson model 629, .44 Magnum

I have some inexpensive guns as well but I don't really see any need to add more cheap guns to my collection. I'd rather save up and get something nice. :D

My .02
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm all about quality and less about quantity.

How so?

A few quality guns rather than a bunch of cheap ones.

I'm migrating towards that myself, I'm looking at a $900 Rohrbaugh instead of its <$300 Kel-tec equivalent.

Viper GTS

But just because a gun is, shall we say inexpensive, doesn't necessarily mean it is a piece of crap.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm all about quality and less about quantity.

How so?

A few quality guns rather than a bunch of cheap ones.

I'm migrating towards that myself, I'm looking at a $900 Rohrbaugh instead of its <$300 Kel-tec equivalent.

Viper GTS

But just because a gun is, shall we say inexpensive, doesn't necessarily mean it is a piece of crap.

No, but good guns are so much nicer.

I can certainly appreciate having many different guns, but I also like good stuff.

The one gun that I wouldn't compromise on would be a carry gun, quality only for that role.

Viper GTS
 

dabuddha

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Anyone know what the "gun laws" are for Virginia or could point me to a website? I've been interested in purchasing one but need to learn more first.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm all about quality and less about quantity.

How so?

Well, I could list my arsenal but it would take some time.

Here are some of the finer guns in my collection, IMHO:

Beretta 20 gauge over/under shotgun
Colt Officer's model, .45 ACP
Para-Ordnanca LDA 7.45, .45 ACP
Smith &amp; Wesson model 629, .44 Magnum

I have some inexpensive guns as well but I don't really see any need to add more cheap guns to my collection. I'd rather save up and get something nice. :D

My .02

I guess I was thinking more of the quality surplus arms that have been coming in lately.

(And the ones that might be coming);)
 

Shelly21

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Originally posted by: edro13
Get a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for about $80 and a Kar98 for around $150 and play war games in your back yard!

Mosin Nagant? Isn't that used by the Vietcongs too? $80 is cheap, is that the show price? Kar98 for $150 is a good price too, I heard that's quite accurate too.

I stopped by a co-worker's house after work and they show me their collection. They even have a cool looking FN FAL with a sharp looking scope. That thing is heavy compare to AK's.

They invited me to the gun show in the first place, and I'm going on Saturday to spend about $800. I guess I won't be getting any ammos. I'll probably pass on the $800 Romanian "Dragunov" and get the other cheaper rifles to start my collection, and execise my right to bare arms. :D

 

K1052

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Anyone know what the "gun laws" are for Virginia or could point me to a website? I've been interested in purchasing one but need to learn more first.

Text
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm all about quality and less about quantity.

How so?

A few quality guns rather than a bunch of cheap ones.

I'm migrating towards that myself, I'm looking at a $900 Rohrbaugh instead of its <$300 Kel-tec equivalent.

Viper GTS

But just because a gun is, shall we say inexpensive, doesn't necessarily mean it is a piece of crap.

No, but good guns are so much nicer.

I can certainly appreciate having many different guns, but I also like good stuff.

The one gun that I wouldn't compromise on would be a carry gun, quality only for that role.

Viper GTS

I can understand that.

Though, I do have a Ruger I picked up for $275 that I would trust my life to.


 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's funny to me that they hold a gun show around DC.

We Virginians lend some sense in this region, to balance out the pinko nutjobs in DC and MD. ;)

 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: edro13
Get a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for about $80 and a Kar98 for around $150 and play war games in your back yard!

Mosin Nagant? Isn't that used by the Vietcongs too? $80 is cheap, is that the show price? Kar98 for $150 is a good price too, I heard that's quite accurate too.

I stopped by a co-worker's house after work and they show me their collection. They even have a cool looking FN FAL with a sharp looking scope. That thing is heavy compare to AK's.

They invited me to the gun show in the first place, and I'm going on Saturday to spend about $800. I guess I won't be getting any ammos. I'll probably pass on the $800 Romanian "Dragunov" and get the other cheaper rifles to start my collection, and execise my right to bare arms. :D

Mosin Nagant is a Russian riflewhich was in service since 1891. The ammo it's chambered for 7.62x54 rimmed cartridge is still in service to this day with SVD, PKM, and couple other guns. There are several variants you likely find at the show, the original 1891 model, pre-1938, with a hexagonal receiver and a plain front post sight. 91/38 model (1938) has a rounded receiver and a shorter barel with a hooded fron sight. There is a 1910 model carabine which is somewhat rare. Finally, there is a M1944 model carabine with a folding hexagonal bayonet attached which can be found in new or like new condition. This particular model was also manufactured in Poland and Bulgaria after WWII. Any of those models can be found for under $100.00. I personally own two: 1903 year model with now archaic "arshin" measurement sights and a 1938 year rifle which in addition to Tula arsenal markings has Finnish military SA markings indicating that it was captured by Finns during the Winter War and pressed into service.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: edro13
Get a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for about $80 and a Kar98 for around $150 and play war games in your back yard!

Mosin Nagant? Isn't that used by the Vietcongs too? $80 is cheap, is that the show price? Kar98 for $150 is a good price too, I heard that's quite accurate too.

I stopped by a co-worker's house after work and they show me their collection. They even have a cool looking FN FAL with a sharp looking scope. That thing is heavy compare to AK's.

They invited me to the gun show in the first place, and I'm going on Saturday to spend about $800. I guess I won't be getting any ammos. I'll probably pass on the $800 Romanian "Dragunov" and get the other cheaper rifles to start my collection, and execise my right to bare arms. :D

Mosin Nagant is a Russian riflewhich was in service since 1891. The ammo it's chambered for 7.62x54 rimmed cartridge is still in service to this day with SVD, PKM, and couple other guns. There are several variants you likely find at the show, the original 1891 model, pre-1938, with a hexagonal receiver and a plain front post sight. 91/38 model (1938) has a rounded receiver and a shorter barel with a hooded fron sight. There is a 1910 model carabine which is somewhat rare. Finally, there is a M1944 model carabine with a folding hexagonal bayonet attached which can be found in new or like new condition. This particular model was also manufactured in Poland and Bulgaria after WWII. Any of those models can be found for under $100.00. I personally own two: 1903 year model with now archaic "arshin" measurement sights and a 1938 year rifle which in addition to Tula arsenal markings has Finnish military SA markings indicating that it was captured by Finns during the Winter War and pressed into service.

:Q

A fellow MN lover on this board?
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: edro13
Get a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for about $80 and a Kar98 for around $150 and play war games in your back yard!

Mosin Nagant? Isn't that used by the Vietcongs too? $80 is cheap, is that the show price? Kar98 for $150 is a good price too, I heard that's quite accurate too.

I stopped by a co-worker's house after work and they show me their collection. They even have a cool looking FN FAL with a sharp looking scope. That thing is heavy compare to AK's.

They invited me to the gun show in the first place, and I'm going on Saturday to spend about $800. I guess I won't be getting any ammos. I'll probably pass on the $800 Romanian "Dragunov" and get the other cheaper rifles to start my collection, and execise my right to bare arms. :D

Mosin Nagant is a Russian riflewhich was in service since 1891. The ammo it's chambered for 7.62x54 rimmed cartridge is still in service to this day with SVD, PKM, and couple other guns. There are several variants you likely find at the show, the original 1891 model, pre-1938, with a hexagonal receiver and a plain front post sight. 91/38 model (1938) has a rounded receiver and a shorter barel with a hooded fron sight. There is a 1910 model carabine which is somewhat rare. Finally, there is a M1944 model carabine with a folding hexagonal bayonet attached which can be found in new or like new condition. This particular model was also manufactured in Poland and Bulgaria after WWII. Any of those models can be found for under $100.00. I personally own two: 1903 year model with now archaic "arshin" measurement sights and a 1938 year rifle which in addition to Tula arsenal markings has Finnish military SA markings indicating that it was captured by Finns during the Winter War and pressed into service.

:Q

A fellow MN lover on this board?

Yup :D These guns are easy to maintain and virtually indestructible. Makes a good hunting rifle too due to it's caliber, good accuracy, and smooth trigger. They were built to be soldier-proof. I remember my grandfather telling me how when he was in WWII, he and his buddis would dump their semi-auto (some full auto) SVT's in favor of MN at first chace..
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: edro13
Get a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for about $80 and a Kar98 for around $150 and play war games in your back yard!

Mosin Nagant? Isn't that used by the Vietcongs too? $80 is cheap, is that the show price? Kar98 for $150 is a good price too, I heard that's quite accurate too.

I stopped by a co-worker's house after work and they show me their collection. They even have a cool looking FN FAL with a sharp looking scope. That thing is heavy compare to AK's.

They invited me to the gun show in the first place, and I'm going on Saturday to spend about $800. I guess I won't be getting any ammos. I'll probably pass on the $800 Romanian "Dragunov" and get the other cheaper rifles to start my collection, and execise my right to bare arms. :D

Mosin Nagant is a Russian riflewhich was in service since 1891. The ammo it's chambered for 7.62x54 rimmed cartridge is still in service to this day with SVD, PKM, and couple other guns. There are several variants you likely find at the show, the original 1891 model, pre-1938, with a hexagonal receiver and a plain front post sight. 91/38 model (1938) has a rounded receiver and a shorter barel with a hooded fron sight. There is a 1910 model carabine which is somewhat rare. Finally, there is a M1944 model carabine with a folding hexagonal bayonet attached which can be found in new or like new condition. This particular model was also manufactured in Poland and Bulgaria after WWII. Any of those models can be found for under $100.00. I personally own two: 1903 year model with now archaic "arshin" measurement sights and a 1938 year rifle which in addition to Tula arsenal markings has Finnish military SA markings indicating that it was captured by Finns during the Winter War and pressed into service.

:Q

A fellow MN lover on this board?

Yup :D These guns are easy to maintain and virtually indestructible. Makes a good hunting rifle too due to it's caliber, good accuracy, and smooth trigger. They were built to be soldier-proof. I remember my grandfather telling me how when he was in WWII, he and his buddis would dump their semi-auto (some full auto) SVT's in favor of MN at first chace..

Interesting. I knew the SVTs had some reliability problems but I didn't think they were that bad.

I currently have 12 mosins myself (I think :confused: ). The only remarkable ones are a 1897 Tula Finn M39 and a Tula M44.
 

Pliablemoose

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So if you MN fans were to select a model for a deer rifle, restock, scope, etc, what would you suggest?