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Markfw

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I set up a message after registration automation over the weekend. If folks reply, I'll know to add the tag. @511 registered before that, but has been fixed up.
a little off-topic, but I tried to suggest that reviews be done of all current hardware (top 10 models of each mfg) for both games and production type loads as well as power levels, so I could actually find them of use, and the reply make no sense. If I am evaluating a new cpu for possible purcharge I want to see how it compares to current (from other mfg) and older of same mfg and how it compares in power. Otherwise,, its not worth my reading.
 

marees

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a little off-topic, but I tried to suggest that reviews be done of all current hardware (top 10 models of each mfg) for both games and production type loads as well as power levels, so I could actually find them of use, and the reply make no sense. If I am evaluating a new cpu for possible purcharge I want to see how it compares to current (from other mfg) and older of same mfg and how it compares in power. Otherwise,, its not worth my reading.
Not sure about CPU reviews but how the GPU reviews worked in hardocp (on which fpsreview is based) was:

  1. Take 1 GPU to review
  2. Take a couple of more nearby in same brand
  3. Take a couple nearby in competitor brand
  4. Now compare everything at a setting optimized for the card under review
  5. This concept is completely different from the AT bench which is standardized across all cards
 

Markfw

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Not sure about CPU reviews but how the GPU reviews worked in hardocp (on which fpsreview is based) was:

  1. Take 1 GPU to review
  2. Take a couple of more nearby in same brand
  3. Take a couple nearby in competitor brand
  4. Now compare everything at a setting optimized for the card under review
  5. This concept is completely different from the AT bench which is standardized across all cards
that would have been better than just 2 new cpus, with nothing to compare to, unless you want to spend all day flipping thru web pages.
 

Schro

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a little off-topic, but I tried to suggest that reviews be done of all current hardware (top 10 models of each mfg) for both games and production type loads as well as power levels, so I could actually find them of use, and the reply make no sense. If I am evaluating a new cpu for possible purcharge I want to see how it compares to current (from other mfg) and older of same mfg and how it compares in power. Otherwise,, its not worth my reading.
You're more than welcome to not read. We have focused on FPS/gaming performance more than anything. Typically CPU reviews are once and done upon launch, compared to relevant chips at the time (and selection is often constrained by launch window time and what we are sampled). We go back and revisit later if we think there's enough interest in a particular chip, but quite frankly, our GPU and motherboard reviews get far better traffic and we've got bills to pay, such as staff to do the reviews.

Now, I am working on a back end that will allow for far more flexible data presentation to the extent a user should be able to select specific products, benchmarks and runs of the benchmark and do a DIY comparison of any data that we have. This is a vibe code in my spare time sort of project, but it will necessitate us refreshing our dataset across many generations of products.

Not sure about CPU reviews but how the GPU reviews worked in hardocp (on which fpsreview is based) was:

  1. Take 1 GPU to review
  2. Take a couple of more nearby in same brand
  3. Take a couple nearby in competitor brand
  4. Now compare everything at a setting optimized for the card under review
  5. This concept is completely different from the AT bench which is standardized across all cards
Pretty much. We do a lot of actual manual runthroughs on the games as opposed to automated benchmarks - the trade of, of course, is the volume of data that we can generate.
 

Thunder 57

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I see I have my "AT Refugee" status and Lounge access, thanks. Now I'm not a complete n00b :) .

Also I really don't know where else to post this but does anyone else find it hilarious the future knows how to ruin icons? Ryan Smith didn't help with AT I'll give them that. But then to pull the main site w/o notice and blaming it on no one using it? Bunk. How were we to "use" it anyway, all of the comments were locked. It was an encyclopedia of information though. Guess I'll have to donate to the Wayback Machine.

Now looking at Tom's over the past week or so and it's turned in to (more) of a joke. Anything worthwhile is paywalled. Why bother? They probably lost most of their audience. They announced it and didn't even listen to suggestions.

The one I really wanted to see was shorter subscription times. If they had a one month offer at $7 or even $9 I would've checked it out. No way I'm paying for a year though when I don't know if I'll find it worth it. The fact that they wouldn't budge on that basically told me it wasn't going to be good. Rather than there being new "exclusive" content they just paywall the most interesting and leave the scraps to everyone else. They also try to say "Bench" is a value-add when AT had it for what? Ten years?

So what can I say? I for one welcome our new FPS overlords. I don't see a way things could've worked out much better. The fact we were invited makes a huge difference IMHO. I just need to find a new "go to" main site for tech news.
 
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Joe NYC

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Just wondering because @Schro is David.

Hi there David,

Joe / Jumbo

 
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