So is there going to be a Phase 2 to OWS?

[monovillage]

I'm really not interested in hearing your Fox News vomit about OWS being about socialism, communism, rape, violence, etc. That's categorically false and you know it. Stop being intellectually dishonest.

OWS has the legitimate potential to go somewhere. But they need to get organized now and not let this opportunity go to waste.

Is your claim that there has been no violence from the #Occupy protesters? I just want to make sure if you're making that claim or not.

 

[dmcowen674]

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Originally Posted by OneOfTheseDays
I'm really not interested in hearing your Fox News vomit about OWS being about socialism, communism, rape, violence, etc. That's categorically false and you know it. Stop being intellectually dishonest.

OWS has the legitimate potential to go somewhere. But they need to get organized now and not let this opportunity go to waste.

Is your claim that there has been no violence from the #Occupy protesters? I just want to make sure if you're making that claim or not.

There is always a few bad miscreants no matter what.

That pales in comparison to the hate you and your Republican Rich ilk have for the country.

 

[monovillage]

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There is always a few bad miscreants no matter what.

That pales in comparison to the hate you and your Republican Rich ilk have for the country.

At least you semi-admitted to the violence of #Occupy and the protesters.

 

[dmcowen674]

At least you semi-admitted to the violence of #Occupy and the protesters.

It's not to the point of the French Revolution yet but give it time.

Bring on the Guillotines

I bet modern ones would be so much more efficient.

 

[monovillage]

I don't know if anything could be more efficient. It's not as if the #Occupy protesters and their supporters are going to have a big effect on Republican elections, they wouldn't have supported them or voted for them before the protests and they won't after them. The only group of politicians that the #Occupy protesters will have an effect on are the Democrat lawmakers. They're part of the core constituency of the Democratic Party and if they're willing to back the same old, same old politicians that helped (along with Republican lawmakers) put us in the mess in the first place, then nothing will change. If they instead find Democrat/left leaning politicians willing to support what they want to accomplish (of the Bernie Sanders mold), then maybe they'll be on the road to getting something done. I just don't think they'll generate much support among undecided voters with the strategy and the tactics they're using right now.

 

[dmcowen674]

I don't know if anything could be more efficient. It's not as if the #Occupy protesters and their supporters are going to have a big effect on Republican elections, they wouldn't have supported them or voted for them before the protests and they won't after them. The only group of politicians that the #Occupy protesters will have an effect on are the Democrat lawmakers. They're part of the core constituency of the Democratic Party and if they're willing to back the same old, same old politicians that helped (along with Republican lawmakers) put us in the mess in the first place, then nothing will change. If they instead find Democrat/left leaning politicians willing to support what they want to accomplish (of the Bernie Sanders mold), then maybe they'll be on the road to getting something done. I just don't think they'll generate much support among undecided voters with the strategy and the tactics they're using right now.

The timeline happening in the U.S. now sounds exactly like history repeating itself:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution


The French Revolution (French: Révolution française; 1789–1799), sometimes distinguished as the 'Great French Revolution'[1] (La Grande Révolution), was a period of radical social and political upheaval in France and Europe.

The absolute monarchy that had ruled France for centuries collapsed in three years.

French society underwent an epic transformation as feudal, aristocratic and religious privileges evaporated under a sustained assault from radical left-wing political groups, masses on the streets, and peasants in the countryside. Old ideas about tradition and hierarchy - of monarchy, aristocracy and religious authority - were abruptly overthrown by new Enlightenment principles of equality, citizenship and inalienable rights.

Causes

Adherents of most historical models identify many of the same features of the Ancien Régime as being among the causes of the Revolution.

Economic factors included hunger and malnutrition in the most destitute segments of the population, due to rising bread prices

Another cause was the state's effective bankruptcy due to the enormous cost of previous wars

France's inefficient and antiquated financial system was unable to manage the national debt, something which was both partially caused and exacerbated by the burden of an inadequate system of taxation.

Meanwhile, the royal court at Versailles was seen as being isolated from, and indifferent to, the hardships of the lower classes.

Many other factors involved resentments and aspirations given focus by the rise of Enlightenment ideals. These included resentment of royal absolutism; resentment by peasants, laborers and the bourgeoisie toward the traditional seigneurial privileges possessed by the nobility

The guillotine as a symbol

The Revolutionary Tribunal summarily condemned thousands of people to death by the guillotine, while mobs beat other victims to death.

At the peak of the terror, the slightest hint of counter-revolutionary thoughts or activities (or, as in the case of Jacques Hébert, revolutionary zeal exceeding that of those in power) could place one under suspicion, and trials did not always proceed according to contemporary standards of due process. Sometimes people died for their political opinions or actions, but many for little reason beyond mere suspicion, or because some others had a stake in getting rid of them. Most of the victims received an unceremonious trip to the guillotine in an open wooden cart (the tumbrel).

Legacy


Historians widely regard the Revolution as one of the most important events in human history

Some historians argue that the French people underwent a fundamental transformation in self-identity, evidenced by the elimination of privileges and their replacement by rights as well as the growing decline in social deference that highlighted the principle of equality throughout the Revolution.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution#cite_note-152

The Revolution represented the most significant and dramatic challenge to political absolutism up to that point in history

 

[MagickMan]

Phase 2? Bathing would be nice, maybe a good delousing too?

 

[MagickMan]

It's not to the point of the French Revolution yet but give it time.

Bring on the Guillotines

I bet modern ones would be so much more efficient.

So, you're the liberal version of Spidey? Got it! Glad to see both sides have their kooks.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Turn out the lights, the party's over

 

[palehorse]

OWwho?