So I'm thinking about getting a gun

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: pontifex
i already own a Taurus PT99 9mm. nice gun, its basically a less expensive Beretta.

now, i'm thinking about getting my ccw license and i want to get a small, easily concealable or small enough to fit in like a coat or jeans pocket. i was thinking small revolver but not sure what to get. i'd like to get something inexpensive too.

Beretta Tomcat is about the smallest semi-auto I'd feel comfortable carrying and they are cheap. I think I paid $250 for mine. It's easy to shoot and chambered in .32 ACP loaded with Winchester Silvertips it should prove to be a borderline adequate manstopper.

BTW-I've owned and been shooting guns for the past 15 years. Never had to use one in self defense. I do know how to use one though.

Edit-If I were going into an area and I felt that I might need to carry I'd probably pack my Colt Officer's model. You really can't beat a .45 for self defense.

I also like the Glocks. Excellent guns and they aren't very expensive either.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: pontifex
i already own a Taurus PT99 9mm. nice gun, its basically a less expensive Beretta.

now, i'm thinking about getting my ccw license and i want to get a small, easily concealable or small enough to fit in like a coat or jeans pocket. i was thinking small revolver but not sure what to get. i'd like to get something inexpensive too.

There are some nice "hammerless" .38 specials available. Also some very concealable (pocket size) .380 autos (though a .380 is a marginal self defense round).

I personally wouldn't recommend a .38 special or .380 to defend yourself with, but thats just me. People bash the 9mm too, but it is used by the military, and its half the cost of 45.

the site of the gun will probably deter 90% of most would-be agressors. firing the gun or putting one round into the guy will probably deter most of the rest. i think it'd be an extremely rare case that you would need to do anything else after that.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd get something in a Smith & Wesson or a Ruger in .357 Magnum. You can shoot .38 Special rounds in it which are cheaper and not as punishing. Good target loads. Something with a 4 or 6" barrel for better accuracy.

You're recommending a .357 magnum to someone who has never owned a gun. Get a clue.

 

[MiniDoom]

I have a ruger .357 (like this) for home defense. It is small but has lots of power. Shotguns are not always the best method of protection. yes it is nice you don?t really need to aim and the round probably wont penetrate your wall and kill your neighbor but clearing rooms with a long barrel protruding around the corner is more dangerous. Large caliber handguns or sawed-off shotguns own.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd get something in a Smith & Wesson or a Ruger in .357 Magnum. You can shoot .38 Special rounds in it which are cheaper and not as punishing. Good target loads. Something with a 4 or 6" barrel for better accuracy.

You're recommending a .357 magnum to someone who has never owned a gun. Get a clue.

I said to shoot .38 Special though it. The first handgun I ever fired was a .38 Special.

.357 Magnum in a large frame revolver isn't a brutal gun to shoot. Hell, even in a medium frame revolver with .357 magnum loads it's not that bad. With .38 Special it's a pussycat and an excellent target gun.

You get a clue.

 

[Dissipate]

I have a Smith & Wesson 686+ .357 magnum. It is a great revolver, super reliable too.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd get something in a Smith & Wesson or a Ruger in .357 Magnum. You can shoot .38 Special rounds in it which are cheaper and not as punishing. Good target loads. Something with a 4 or 6" barrel for better accuracy.

You're recommending a .357 magnum to someone who has never owned a gun. Get a clue.

I said to shoot .38 Special though it. The first handgun I ever fired was a .38 Special.

.357 Magnum in a large frame revolver isn't a brutal gun to shoot. Hell, even in a medium frame revolver with .357 magnum loads it's not that bad. With .38 Special it's a pussycat and an excellent target gun.

You get a clue.

what he said.:thumbsup:

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd get something in a Smith & Wesson or a Ruger in .357 Magnum. You can shoot .38 Special rounds in it which are cheaper and not as punishing. Good target loads. Something with a 4 or 6" barrel for better accuracy.

You're recommending a .357 magnum to someone who has never owned a gun. Get a clue.

I said to shoot .38 Special though it. The first handgun I ever fired was a .38 Special.

.357 Magnum in a large frame revolver isn't a brutal gun to shoot. Hell, even in a medium frame revolver with .357 magnum loads it's not that bad. With .38 Special it's a pussycat and an excellent target gun.

You get a clue.

Haha, just what I was going to post.

 

[jlee]

What JulesMaximus said.

I'm thinking about a Sig P228 .40 myself..going to be a while before I can afford one, though.

 

[tec699]

Don't get a gun. They kill. Get a bunch of flowers injstead and give the money to charity.

 

[Dissipate]

This is what I recommend.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I have a ruger .357 (like this) for home defense. It is small but has lots of power. Shotguns are not always the best method of protection. yes it is nice you don?t really need to aim and the round probably wont penetrate your wall and kill your neighbor but clearing rooms with a long barrel protruding around the corner is more dangerous. Large caliber handguns or sawed-off shotguns own.

First of all, sawed off shotguns are illegal. You'd go to jail for a long time if you killed someone with one. Second of all, a regular shotgun has a suprisingly tight group for buckshot. Regardless of whatever people say, you do need to aim.

And clearing rooms with a shotgun is easy if you know what yer doing. But home defense isn't clearing a room. Its using a hallway or a doorway as a chokepoint. You are not supposed to be the aggressor in a home defense.

Me personally, I do train on clearing buildings constantly. Its part of my job. I do know what I'd do if someone entered my house from any point. Now that I have 2 handguns, my wife can be part of the plan too.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Go to a local shooting range. Take the fire arms safety class.

Rent several differant hand guns to try, see what you like.

For a new handgun owner I would most stongly reccomend a revolver in double action.

The Ruger GP-100 w/4" barrel is small enough for in house but heavy and accurate
enough for target shooting. Buy good used for cheap
Light, short barreled handguns are not fun to target shoot.

The first thing many new shooters do when thier first handgun is an auto is rip open the thumb
on the slide.
Revolvers are simple enough for the woman of the house to use in your absence.


...Galvanized

 

[Tom]

I don't know if this is true or not, but it seems to me that people that have guns are more likely to get shot than people that don't have guns.

I don't mean shot in any particular circumstance, but just in general, including all circumstances.

Anyone know if this has been studied ?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
I have a Smith & Wesson 686+ .357 magnum. It is a great revolver, super reliable too.

I had one of those in bright stainless (it didn't come bright, I actually hand polished it to a bright finish with metal polish and lots of rubbing) with a 4" barrel, target sights and a Hogue rubber grip. Great gun...wish I still had it but I sold it to buy a surfboard...what the hell was I thinking? :roll:

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I have a ruger .357 (like this) for home defense. It is small but has lots of power. Shotguns are not always the best method of protection. yes it is nice you don?t really need to aim and the round probably wont penetrate your wall and kill your neighbor but clearing rooms with a long barrel protruding around the corner is more dangerous. Large caliber handguns or sawed-off shotguns own.

First of all, sawed off shotguns are illegal. You'd go to jail for a long time if you killed someone with one. Second of all, a regular shotgun has a suprisingly tight group for buckshot. Regardless of whatever people say, you do need to aim.

And clearing rooms with a shotgun is easy if you know what yer doing. But home defense isn't clearing a room. Its using a hallway or a doorway as a chokepoint. You are not supposed to be the aggressor in a home defense.

Me personally, I do train on clearing buildings constantly. Its part of my job. I do know what I'd do if someone entered my house from any point. Now that I have 2 handguns, my wife can be part of the plan too.

bah, better judged by twelve than carried by six. Personally I would go after the sob with my m4gery. At least if I missed they would die of shock from the sound of the blast.:beer:

 

[Ruffrider]

I've had my glock .40 cal since police academy 2 years ago and it's still the best gun I've ever owned.

 

[Ruffrider]

I've had my glock .40 cal since police academy 2 years ago and it's still the best gun I've ever owned.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I have a ruger .357 (like this) for home defense. It is small but has lots of power. Shotguns are not always the best method of protection. yes it is nice you don?t really need to aim and the round probably wont penetrate your wall and kill your neighbor but clearing rooms with a long barrel protruding around the corner is more dangerous. Large caliber handguns or sawed-off shotguns own.

First of all, sawed off shotguns are illegal. You'd go to jail for a long time if you killed someone with one. Second of all, a regular shotgun has a suprisingly tight group for buckshot. Regardless of whatever people say, you do need to aim.

And clearing rooms with a shotgun is easy if you know what yer doing. But home defense isn't clearing a room. Its using a hallway or a doorway as a chokepoint. You are not supposed to be the aggressor in a home defense.

Me personally, I do train on clearing buildings constantly. Its part of my job. I do know what I'd do if someone entered my house from any point. Now that I have 2 handguns, my wife can be part of the plan too.

bah, better judged by twelve than carried by six. Personally I would go after the sob with my m4gery. At least if I missed they would die of shock from the sound of the blast.:beer:

Better judged by twelve than carried by six? Think you're taking that out of context.

Let me guess, you're one of those tard, zealot gun owners that gives everyone else a bad name?

 

[jlee]

n/m

 

[Ruffrider]

lmao. dont know what happened there but at least I made them look like a double post with content. There are no delete on these forums huh lol

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I have a ruger .357 (like this) for home defense. It is small but has lots of power. Shotguns are not always the best method of protection. yes it is nice you don?t really need to aim and the round probably wont penetrate your wall and kill your neighbor but clearing rooms with a long barrel protruding around the corner is more dangerous. Large caliber handguns or sawed-off shotguns own.

First of all, sawed off shotguns are illegal. You'd go to jail for a long time if you killed someone with one. Second of all, a regular shotgun has a suprisingly tight group for buckshot. Regardless of whatever people say, you do need to aim.

And clearing rooms with a shotgun is easy if you know what yer doing. But home defense isn't clearing a room. Its using a hallway or a doorway as a chokepoint. You are not supposed to be the aggressor in a home defense.

Me personally, I do train on clearing buildings constantly. Its part of my job. I do know what I'd do if someone entered my house from any point. Now that I have 2 handguns, my wife can be part of the plan too.

bah, better judged by twelve than carried by six. Personally I would go after the sob with my m4gery. At least if I missed they would die of shock from the sound of the blast.:beer:

Better judged by twelve than carried by six? Think you're taking that out of context.

Let me guess, you're one of those tard, zealot gun owners that gives everyone else a bad name?

FO, I?ve been lucky enough not to need to use a firearm for protection yet. All my sh!ts legal, though I do believe the laws are too restrictive.

 

[Saint Nick]

desert eagle point five oh

 

[Chloraseptic]

http://www.packing.org/range/

Go there, click your state, and find a close range. Find one that offers rentals. Then go there, spent some money (Probably in the range of $100) and try out all the guns that feel good in your hand, and calibers you'd like to try. It's worth spending the $100 now, to find out which guns you like, or don't like. After you find out which caliber gun and make you want, buy it

Personally, I prefer my Sig P239, in 9mm. I would advise at getting a 'larger' gun in size, not necessarily in caliber, if you plan on ONLY using it as a home defense. If you plan on getting your CCW licence, then you may want to look for a smaller framed gun.

Whatever you do, don't think that the bigger caliber you get, the easier it will be to deal with a threat. Get a gun in whatever caliber you shoot the best with.

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/chlor/239tt.jpg

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Chloraseptic
http://www.packing.org/range/

Go there, click your state, and find a close range. Find one that offers rentals. Then go there, spent some money (Probably in the range of $100) and try out all the guns that feel good in your hand, and calibers you'd like to try. It's worth spending the $100 now, to find out which guns you like, or don't like. After you find out which caliber gun and make you want, buy it

Personally, I prefer my Sig P239, in 9mm. I would advise at getting a 'larger' gun in size, not necessarily in caliber, if you plan on ONLY using it as a home defense. If you plan on getting your CCW licence, then you may want to look for a smaller framed gun.

Whatever you do, don't think that the bigger caliber you get, the easier it will be to deal with a threat. Get a gun in whatever caliber you shoot the best with.

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/chlor/239tt.jpg

Nice, I love the 239.

127gr +P+ I assume?