Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
So you are saying that EVERY SINGLE scientist that believe in Creationism has used Carbon Dating incorrectly thereby invalidating their results? That is a tall claim to make.
No, I'm saying the claims made in your link are false. Try reading for comprehension.
Evolution is not the antithesis of Christianity, nor is the duration of a theory's existence any positive indicator of its correlation with reality.
By the way, nobody has proven the Tooth Fairy wrong. Do you believe in it, too?
So if I came up with a good theory today and said I believe this above all else and posted it here. I could trump it up that it has been around a whole day? Unless I am mistaken, you are saying that proven throughout length of time (or lack of being disproven) is irrelevant?
Read what I wrote -- it's plain English.
I saw no such argument supplied in this thread, and the fact remains, that there is no debate about evolution anymore. The scientists do not investigate its reality anymore, but rather they investigate the details of its reality, since its reality is no longer a question.
I replied with a counter argument. Why has no one been able to argue back against it other than say things such as "Only someone out of their mind would believe that".
Which argument was that? I didn't see it.
Additionally, by saying that it is reality, you are then claiming that there is no room for error. I am typing on this keyboard, that is fact, and therefore reality. Sorry but evolution isn't a reality, it is a theory. That is, after all, why it is called "The Theory Of Evolution".
Evolution is a fact and a theory, you simply do not understand what "theory" means in a rigorous scientific context. Gravity is also a fact and theory, however less complete than the theory of evolution. Do you doubt the reality of gravity? I suppose gravity is a myth, and in reality it's the force of Jesus that holds planets in their orbits, eh?
You do not understand what I meant by "error theory," and that is, an explanation why we must be so wrong in the face of the overwhelming evidence. We did have an error theory when we explained why people believed the earth to be flat, which is why your analogy is as inept as the rest of your "reasoning."
Calling me inept again?
I wrote "your analogy is as inept as the rest of your 'reasoning.'" The only two nouns in that sentence are "analogy" and "reasoning." Are either of those you?
I haven't attacked you once, yet the "ad hominem" logical fallacy is like your best friend when speaking to me.
Truth is a valid defense against slander, genius.
Why would you need an error theory when there is absolute truth.
There is no such thing as "absolute truth" with regard to empirical reality. That you think there is only demonstrates your ignorance.
Again, I am typing on this keyboard. There is no error value, I am doing it! If there is an error factor, that implies that there is a chance it could be wrong-- Christianity has no error factor because God is never wrong.
You still do not understand what I mean by "error theory." You are obviously over your head with regard to the subject matter.
It has become obvious to me that the way things "seem" to you rarely coincides with reality.
I don't see why not. I made a perfectly valid point. By saying "The intellectual debate is already won" that implies that he believes that his "Theory of Evolution" is infallible. If it is already won how is there a chance that it could lose.
You still do not understand the contention I made, nor it actual implications. That the debate is settled in no way implies that the theory is infallible. Infallible things
can't be wrong. Evolution
can be wrong -- it just
isn't.
It's not that you have problems because you believe in God. Plenty of people believe in God and see no need to turn a blind eye to simple facts about reality. No, you have problems because you apparently cannot reason soundly, and it causes you to revel in ignorance.
And all of the requisite "proof" you need can be found on any number of reputable websites. I suggest you educate yourself on
http://talkorigins.org/
I haven't turned a blind eye to anything in reality. Evolution; however, is a theory.
I'm virtually certain that this will not mark the first time that someone has explained to you that scientific theories are not "guesses," nor does the fact that there exists a scientific theory mean that we are not certain of the collection of facts that the theory explains.
That you continue to spruik the "just a theory" canard in fact supplies a case in point for my contention that you blatantly ignore reality to perpetuate your own ignorance.
I sighted specific examples from my beliefs text that prove Evolution wrong.
What? Where? Do even understand what it would take to falsify evolution? I assure you it would necessitate more than a couple of citations from an ignorant forumite on Anandtech.
Instead of giving me the entire theory in one lump of Web Pages, perhaps you could pull out the articles that directly argue against my arguments.
No. If you want to learn, educate yourself. When you don't, you will in fact prove my point that you are not interested in learning, and prefer to wallow in your own ignorance.
-- I gotta stop responding sooner or later)
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