shortylickens
No Lifer
- Jul 15, 2003
- 80,287
- 17,081
- 136
Virginia Beach is only a couple hours away, and I also know a girl down there (I think), but I dont feel like making the trip. I think I'll just Nef.
Don't forget that a big part of the ammo prices skyrocketing was the fact that copper prices were through the roof until recently. My buddy works for a large copper mining company in AZ, and he said that now prices have slumped (with the economy), and they just laid off ~1500 people.
With lower copper prices should come lower ammo prices, if people will stop panic shopping for it.
With lower copper prices should come lower ammo prices, if people will stop panic shopping for it.
How depressing...I'm finally in a financial position to consider buying an AR or an AK, but the prices are stupidly high. Need to buy a barrel for my Kar98K -- I hope the frenzy hasn't affected that market.
The Democrats tried to pass a law that would have limited ammunition back before the most recent election, they will likely try again.
BoberFett
Lifer
- Oct 9, 1999
- 37,562
- 9
- 81
You don't buy a Dragunov for $900. $3,000+ for a real Dragunov. If you're talking about the Romanian version, you can find them in a nice package for $799 here: http://www.classicarms.us
Yep that is the one I was looking for. I ain't dropping $3000 on a Dragunov though.
If I had that kinda money I'd buy me a custom dakota arms 308.
I may order that one from classicarms though.
thanks Fett
ps I went back to the show and picked me up a new Ruger 10/22 for 179 bucks.
needed a new plinker as the marlin pump i have need some work.
there is alot of panic buying that is affecting everything from components to the finished products. Manufactors were surprised at the depth of the response but most will tell you that the items are still available, it will just take longer then usual. This response is based on what the gun control groups are saying now that Obama is POTUS, and based on Obama's voting recording in relation to gun control.
the recent Heller case more clearly established some guidelines, but there is already talk of how those guidelines can be applied that wouldn't contradict the ruling, but still have significant effect on gun control; most of this is based on who decides what constitutes "generally accepted". An interesting first test case will involve portions of the Omnibus bill that was passed through; it was constructed in such a fashion that no amendents would be allowed, and many members of congress will readily admit that they didn't have time to read the entire bill. recently it was decided that handguns could be carried in national parks, but a portion of the omnibus bill would recode who oversees the administration of many of the parks, and the agency now destined to oversee those parks has already identified that they do not support the right to carry handguns (loaded) in the parks.
If you have any doubt of the POTUS's intent, look only as far as his AG's comment that the administration would push to bring back the ban of 1994. It's a far reach to consider that the US AG would make a statement like that, without knowledge and support of the POTUS. lol right now i imagine the AG is saying........."I drank what??"
the recent Heller case more clearly established some guidelines, but there is already talk of how those guidelines can be applied that wouldn't contradict the ruling, but still have significant effect on gun control; most of this is based on who decides what constitutes "generally accepted". An interesting first test case will involve portions of the Omnibus bill that was passed through; it was constructed in such a fashion that no amendents would be allowed, and many members of congress will readily admit that they didn't have time to read the entire bill. recently it was decided that handguns could be carried in national parks, but a portion of the omnibus bill would recode who oversees the administration of many of the parks, and the agency now destined to oversee those parks has already identified that they do not support the right to carry handguns (loaded) in the parks.
If you have any doubt of the POTUS's intent, look only as far as his AG's comment that the administration would push to bring back the ban of 1994. It's a far reach to consider that the US AG would make a statement like that, without knowledge and support of the POTUS. lol right now i imagine the AG is saying........."I drank what??"
daniel1113 - Hey, another Stag Arms AR owner! My own gun was stolen from my house two weeks ago (damnit, damnit, damnit!) but while I had that gun, I loved it to death. I'd just purchased it from a dealer up in New Hampshire a year and a half ago. Ah well.
Also, I heard that Obama's administration tried to reintroduce a bill very similar to the 94 Assault Weapons Ban, but that Pelosi and several of the other Democrat leaders actually blocked it from moving forward. Apparently they didn't want a repeat of the massive reaction to the bill after it was passed and the House and Senate shifted towards Republican control.
Also, I heard that Obama's administration tried to reintroduce a bill very similar to the 94 Assault Weapons Ban, but that Pelosi and several of the other Democrat leaders actually blocked it from moving forward. Apparently they didn't want a repeat of the massive reaction to the bill after it was passed and the House and Senate shifted towards Republican control.
preslove
Lifer
- Sep 10, 2003
- 16,754
- 64
- 91
I find all the paranoia about Obama banning guns to be pretty funny, but weird.
He and the Dem leadership have made ZERO moves and very little statements for gun control. They have much bigger fish to fry and going after guns would just be a distraction.
But, this hasn't stopped the NRA from going after Obama during the election, or rumors spreading about non-existent gun control laws.
Personally, I think that some very smart, but devious people in the gun rights movement have been spreading false rumors about Obama "TAKING OUR GUNZZZZ!!!" in order to get all the gun nuts to go out and stock up on guns an ammo.
He and the Dem leadership have made ZERO moves and very little statements for gun control. They have much bigger fish to fry and going after guns would just be a distraction.
But, this hasn't stopped the NRA from going after Obama during the election, or rumors spreading about non-existent gun control laws.
Personally, I think that some very smart, but devious people in the gun rights movement have been spreading false rumors about Obama "TAKING OUR GUNZZZZ!!!" in order to get all the gun nuts to go out and stock up on guns an ammo.
From change.gov directly stating Obama policy and platform. Yeah, it's a conspiracy.
"Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent."
"daniel1113 - Hey, another Stag Arms AR owner! My own gun was stolen from my house two weeks ago (damnit, damnit, damnit!) but while I had that gun, I loved it to death. I'd just purchased it from a dealer up in New Hampshire a year and a half ago. Ah well.
Also, I heard that Obama's administration tried to reintroduce a bill very similar to the 94 Assault Weapons Ban, but that Pelosi and several of the other Democrat leaders actually blocked it from moving forward. Apparently they didn't want a repeat of the massive reaction to the bill after it was passed and the House and Senate shifted towards Republican control."
Gun was stolen from your house? Nicely done, thanks for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals....
the lack of concern on your part about this is rather appalling.
NRA has to spend the money the fools give them on something, might as well be on the boogeyman
Also, I heard that Obama's administration tried to reintroduce a bill very similar to the 94 Assault Weapons Ban, but that Pelosi and several of the other Democrat leaders actually blocked it from moving forward. Apparently they didn't want a repeat of the massive reaction to the bill after it was passed and the House and Senate shifted towards Republican control."
Gun was stolen from your house? Nicely done, thanks for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals....
the lack of concern on your part about this is rather appalling.
NRA has to spend the money the fools give them on something, might as well be on the boogeyman
daniel1113
Diamond Member
- Jun 6, 2003
- 6,448
- 0
- 0
Yes, let's blame homeowners for being robbed. That's a good policy. Unless he handed a gun to a known criminal, he has absolutely zero blame. A gun is a piece of property. Nothing else.
ultimatebob
Lifer
- Jul 1, 2001
- 25,134
- 2,450
- 126
Your idea doesn't work, since many of the gun manufacturers don't make their own ammo. Some do, but most don't.
pontifex
Lifer
- Dec 5, 2000
- 43,804
- 46
- 91
BoberFett
Lifer
- Oct 9, 1999
- 37,562
- 9
- 81
The Romanian PSL is basically a gussied up AK47. A real Dragunov has a completely different action. They fire the same round, but they're quite different. I was thinking about getting a PSL because I do like the look, but then I held one at a show and realized how short the stock is. For a sniper rifle, the stock is way too short IMO. Either that or my arms are too long. The firing position would be very uncomfortable unless I put an extended butt plate on the thing.
I've also read mixed reports on the accuracy of the PSL, you may want to do some research first.
That's just my opinion though.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 23K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
-
-
Facebook
Twitter