Originally posted by: jndietz
rofl you are a crazy fscker
my friend told me that he'll be peeing in blood, i was like really.. lets do it..
of course, you probably need to eat like tons of it.. lol
HumblePie
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You guys are CRAZY.
Obligatory Wikipedia Link
Sorry, MSG causes no symptoms, nor has it ever been found to. It's a NATURAL occuring product found in tons of natural and whole foods. It's just cheap to extract and add into other foods that don't have it. MSG is sodium (a SALT) and glutimate, which is a protien. A protien your body MAKES all the time as it is essential for life.
I'm sure if you downed a ton of it, you might have an adverse side effect or two. Then again, downing too much of ANYTHING will cause an adverse side effect. Adding MSG is no different then adding salt or pepper or even ketchup to a food item. It's all natural, safe by the FDA, and has been the subject of soo many institutional tests for DECADES now that have shown ZERO adverse effects from use of it.
It is NOT a drug. It's not even labeled as a drug. It's FOOD. If you don't want to eat it because you don't like the taste or something, that's one thing. However, you are going to be hard pressed in this country to find many foods without MSG content. If you are reading stupid hysterical and proganda websites and taking them as truth, I can point you some much better websites which might give you directions to wear tinfoil for protection.
Obligatory Wikipedia Link
Sorry, MSG causes no symptoms, nor has it ever been found to. It's a NATURAL occuring product found in tons of natural and whole foods. It's just cheap to extract and add into other foods that don't have it. MSG is sodium (a SALT) and glutimate, which is a protien. A protien your body MAKES all the time as it is essential for life.
I'm sure if you downed a ton of it, you might have an adverse side effect or two. Then again, downing too much of ANYTHING will cause an adverse side effect. Adding MSG is no different then adding salt or pepper or even ketchup to a food item. It's all natural, safe by the FDA, and has been the subject of soo many institutional tests for DECADES now that have shown ZERO adverse effects from use of it.
It is NOT a drug. It's not even labeled as a drug. It's FOOD. If you don't want to eat it because you don't like the taste or something, that's one thing. However, you are going to be hard pressed in this country to find many foods without MSG content. If you are reading stupid hysterical and proganda websites and taking them as truth, I can point you some much better websites which might give you directions to wear tinfoil for protection.
PricklyPete
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HumblePie
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Wikipedia is just the quickest, and usually only way if you are behind a firewall at work, to point to at least ONE source for your information. Don't get all uppity about it if you have a beef against wikipedia. However, it's a hell of alot better then that horrible website listed by the OP. Looks like something from PETA. I'd rather take information from a .org, .gov. or .edu site any day of the week then from a site that is www.wehateXXX.com. or along those lines.
Want more links and reliable sources? Here you go....
Linky
Another linky on research and symposism conducted
Oh look some more info
Oh hey, I got this directly from the FDA website!!!
OH MY GAWD people. Don't find just one proganda spewing website that doesn't at least cite sources to double blind posted scientific study results and uses "anedoctacle" evidance because someone claims they get headaches after eating Chinese food. LOL, it could have been because they damn pans they used at the buffet were cleaned with a soap they are allergic to, or hell, not cleaned at all (/shudders at some nasty Chinese restuarants I've been to).
rh71
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I'm chinese, and have eaten a lot of chinese food in my lifetime. In the last 5 years, I've gotten migraines enough times after eating at VARIOUS different chinese food places throughout NY to have a 99% belief that it is MSG. Restaurants who do not use it (yes I can tell from taste by now) give me no problems.
You're going to tell me that it's a soap that particular Chinese restaurants may or may not use, which could be the culprit ? Chinese restaurants use the same soap here and there that no other places use ? What's with unsanitary foods giving people headaches ? That's a stretch. I've honestly considered your opinion, but no, it's an ingredient in the foods... I'll let you guess which one.
The day I get a migraine after eating at this particular no-MSG chinese restaurant will be the day I come back to this thread on my hands and knees begging for your forgiveness because I was wrong. Until then, you can refer to all the documents you like but I've never been so sure about anything [so painful] in my life. I'll stick with what I've learned from personal experience. You're reading from doctors who as a group don't even know the true biological cause of migraines yet.
so, since its natural, its ok for everyone?! WRONG. dr. after dr. has told me that my system reacts horribly to it even in the smallest quanitity.
:roll:
:roll:
iamwiz82
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The articles you posted say that some people do react to it. What is so hard to understand? Lola doesn't even eat Chinese food, but if she eats Campbell's Soup, or Doritos, or pretty much any sauce in a jar, or frozen dinners, etc, she gets sick. The doctors she went to asked her to make a food diary over the course of a fe weeks including any migraines she suffered. They are the ones who pointed it out.
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you're the one going batty over all this, not us
i only posted a website that i thought was ridiculous and funny, i even mentioned that in the OP i was just poking fun at it and how silly it was. and it made me wonder about MSG.MSG makes your mouth dry. But, then so does salt. It's prolly from the Sodium ion or something. That's a way to figure out how much MSG you got in your food. At least, that's how my chinese family knows.
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no, like i said before, i only posted that website because i thought the list of reactions to it could be a reaction to anything, not just MSG.
Note this word: "allergy"
So if you are allergic to it, then don't eat it. It does not "cause" those symptoms in the sense that if you eat Drano you will get sick or die. If you are allergic to it, you might experience some of them. If you're not, then no problem. Yes; Food allergies can build over time, but if the time comes you develop an allergy to it, then stop.
So if you are allergic to it, then don't eat it. It does not "cause" those symptoms in the sense that if you eat Drano you will get sick or die. If you are allergic to it, you might experience some of them. If you're not, then no problem. Yes; Food allergies can build over time, but if the time comes you develop an allergy to it, then stop.
GasX
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Gotcha - I work in the clinical trials business and they have to report anything that a patient mentions during a study visit.
A patient on a drug trial could come in for a follow-up and say that her wrist hurts from the 2 hour jerk off session with her coked up boyfriend and the drug company has to spend time and money evaluating the likelihood that the wrist pain is study drug related...
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well the chinese food i ate today must've had tons of MSG in it then
oh well it was good... i won't die ... i've been drinking nothing but water during the week. but on the weekend i drink pop, usually too much hell i'm 18 why do i care about MSG?
HumblePie
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Jndietz, I'm sorry, I didn't catch the sarcasm in the OP. Guess my meter is broken today.
Yes, some people get reactions from MSG, pretty much the same way people get reactions from plaecebo. If you think you get reactions from MSG, oh well, no one is forcing you to eat it. I just think it's dumb some of the claims people make and wild theories they have. They've gone so far as to dub it "Chinese Restuarant Syndrome" for the effects of MSG. Some of the claims are really out there.
As for the person that eats at all sorts of resturaunts, there is just way to many ways to get headaches from stuff that has nothing to do with food. It could be all those buildings you went in had something in the paint in the walls that you are allergic to. Many the workers or hostess are wearing a perfume that are causing headaches. I used get this time to time from coworkers in some really bad past jobs I've worked at. It could be something as simple as the soap the use, or the water harshness or the pipes in that part of the city. You can't blame MSG based off the fact you eat at a restuarant that uses MSG and you get headaches there but not at another one that doesn't use MSG. Making a blanket statement like that is dumb.
Yes, some people get reactions from MSG, pretty much the same way people get reactions from plaecebo. If you think you get reactions from MSG, oh well, no one is forcing you to eat it. I just think it's dumb some of the claims people make and wild theories they have. They've gone so far as to dub it "Chinese Restuarant Syndrome" for the effects of MSG. Some of the claims are really out there.
As for the person that eats at all sorts of resturaunts, there is just way to many ways to get headaches from stuff that has nothing to do with food. It could be all those buildings you went in had something in the paint in the walls that you are allergic to. Many the workers or hostess are wearing a perfume that are causing headaches. I used get this time to time from coworkers in some really bad past jobs I've worked at. It could be something as simple as the soap the use, or the water harshness or the pipes in that part of the city. You can't blame MSG based off the fact you eat at a restuarant that uses MSG and you get headaches there but not at another one that doesn't use MSG. Making a blanket statement like that is dumb.
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