So I want to become a teacher

[Sho'Nuff]

As the title says, I want to become a teacher some day (hopefully soon). The problem is that I am a patent attorney now and am used to my income. If I were to teach highschool, I would be looking at about a 75% pay cut, which is not going to pay my bills (mainly my mortgage).

Anyone know of any education related jobs that are a bit higher paying than a straight up teacher? I'm not looking for anything extravagent. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 60-70k would be perfect.

 

[BoomerD]

University professor?

 

[Farang]

Administration?

 

[pstylesss]

Why not just teach one or two classes that interest you and not do it full time?

 

[Oil]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Why not just teach one or two classes that interest you and not do it full time?

+1

I had an accounting prof in college who was an active accountant that taught one maybe two courses a semester just because he loved to teach

 

[Leros]

I had a couple of professors who worked real jobs, then taught evening classes. They were both arrogant jerks and only half decent professors, but they loved doing it.

 

[Rike]

It depends on where you teach and if you can stick it out long enough to make that range. I work in a middle of the road district pay wise in CA and I do a little better than the range you quoted. But I've also been teaching for 12 years. A starting teacher in my district makes about 44-49k depending on how many post BA units you have.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Why not just teach one or two classes that interest you and not do it full time?

Because my full time job does not really allow for a part time job on top of it. At least not at the firm I am with. 2000 billables FTL.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
University professor?

I considered this, but the only subject I am qualified to really teach at the university level is patent law. But those jobs are not exactly easy to come by in my area.

Anyone know what a teacher who works for a private school makes? It has to be better than an equivalent public school teacher.

 

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[SearchMaster]

Originally posted by: soxfan

Originally posted by: BoomerD
University professor?

I considered this, but the only subject I am qualified to really teach at the university level is patent law. But those jobs are not exactly easy to come by in my area.

Anyone know what a teacher who works for a private school makes? It has to be better than an equivalent public school teacher.

My sister-in-law taught at a relatively expensive private school 15 years ago, and was paid about half of what public school teachers. If I recall correctly, it was in the $15K-$18K range (where public school teachers started at $30K+). She had to quit after a year because she was below the poverty line. I'm sure salaries have increased but from what I understand, private still pays significantly less than public.

 

[DarrelSPowers]

Originally posted by: SearchMaster

Originally posted by: soxfan

Originally posted by: BoomerD
University professor?

I considered this, but the only subject I am qualified to really teach at the university level is patent law. But those jobs are not exactly easy to come by in my area.

Anyone know what a teacher who works for a private school makes? It has to be better than an equivalent public school teacher.

My sister-in-law taught at a relatively expensive private school 15 years ago, and was paid about half of what public school teachers. If I recall correctly, it was in the $15K-$18K range (where public school teachers started at $30K+). She had to quit after a year because she was below the poverty line. I'm sure salaries have increased but from what I understand, private still pays significantly less than public.

This is 100% True

Public school teachers in NY get around 10-20K more than private... much more if its a teacher who's been around a while.

 

[bignateyk]

You can make 60-70K as a teacher... you just have to be really good. Even some public schools you could do better than that. I went to a really upper-class public school, and all the teachers had PH.D's in their respective fields, and most were well over 80K.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: soxfan
As the title says, I want to become a teacher some day (hjopefully soon). The problem is that I am a patent attorney now and am used to my income. If I were to teach highschool, I would be looking at about a 75% pay cut, which is not going to pay my bills (mainly my mortgage).

Anyone know of any education related jobs that are a bit higher paying than a straight up teacher? I'm not looking for anything extravagent. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 60-70k would be perfect.

do you really dislike what you are doing right now that much?

can't you do both some teaching and some attorney work?

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: soxfan

Originally posted by: BoomerD
University professor?

I considered this, but the only subject I am qualified to really teach at the university level is patent law. But those jobs are not exactly easy to come by in my area.

Anyone know what a teacher who works for a private school makes? It has to be better than an equivalent public school teacher.

no....it is the one time private sector = less pay.

 

[bignateyk]

Also, why do you want to become a teacher? It's a lot more work than most people think, and a lot of places don't even get the summer off anymore. You'll be working 10 hour days, and then grading papers/homework on top of that when you go home at night. Not only that, but you get the added joy of standing on your feet all day long dealing with annoying high school kids.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: soxfan
As the title says, I want to become a teacher some day (hjopefully soon). The problem is that I am a patent attorney now and am used to my income. If I were to teach highschool, I would be looking at about a 75% pay cut, which is not going to pay my bills (mainly my mortgage).

Anyone know of any education related jobs that are a bit higher paying than a straight up teacher? I'm not looking for anything extravagent. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 60-70k would be perfect.

do you really dislike what you are doing right now that much?

can't you do both some teaching and some attorney work?

He stated he needed 2000 billable hours this alone is 40 hours/week (with 2 week vacation) but in order to have 40 billable hours/week he probably needs to work between 50-60 hours every week. That might cramp any teaching aspirations.

BTW OP, I talked to people at firms that require 2500-2800 in billable hours. :laugh:

 

[Turin39789]

Salary for my county

You start at rank 3 with a bachelors, rank 2 is an applicable masters, rank 3 is more classwork. The general idea is you work and then go home and keep working.


Rank I Options
30 semester hours of approved graduate credit in addition to Rank II;
60 semester hours of approved graduate credit including a master's degree;
National Board for Professional Teaching Standards Certification; or the Kentucky Continuing Education Option
Rank II Options
Master's degree to : enhance the professional competency of the initial teaching certification; add a certification area not covered by the initial certificate; or advance professionally to a higher position
A 32 semester-hour non-degree Education Planned Fifth-Year Program (graduate level); or the Kentucky Continuing Education Option
Rank III
Bachelor's degree leading to a provisional teaching certificate

 

[silverpig]

My wife is a teacher here. You start at about $43k and top out at about $72k. If you have a master's you get an extra $10k, so you start at $53k and top out at $82k.

That's of course with the 2 months off in the summer, 2 weeks at christmas, 1 week in the spring. Not too shabby.

Oh, if you want, you can go into administration as well with a masters. I think principals make up to $120k or so.

 

[nanette1985]

My daughter got a job teaching math for 58K just out of college. Consider math teaching, and check out NJ suburban schools. Several of her colleagues make six figures.

 

[DVad3r]

How much do elementary teachers make in the states? How much does high school teachers make in the states? The reason I ask is, in Toronto, they top out at around $ 100,000 k, plus they have an amazing union, full benefits for them and the family (massages, shoes, dental, optical, etc), and accumulating paid sick days 21 per year that stack if they don't use them. It's basically one of the better jobs you can get here if you want something simple and to work for someone. I've heard before being in the educational field is not great in the states.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Also, why do you want to become a teacher? It's a lot more work than most people think, and a lot of places don't even get the summer off anymore. You'll be working 10 hour days, and then grading papers/homework on top of that when you go home at night. Not only that, but you get the added joy of standing on your feet all day long dealing with annoying high school kids.

LOL are you insane? Try 6 hour days, including breaks and lunch. 4 peroids in a high school and one of those is a spare for you to prepare lessons/mark etc. Christmas break is 2 weeks off, March break is a week off, if you are in a Catholic school you get another 5 days off in April for Easter. You also get 2 months off during the summer. It's unheard of that a teacher in elementary/high school wouldn't get their summers or breaks.

Also it depends on your teaching style, you can make things in the classroom difficult for yourself or easy, good teachers make days go by like a breeze.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Also, why do you want to become a teacher? It's a lot more work than most people think, and a lot of places don't even get the summer off anymore. You'll be working 10 hour days, and then grading papers/homework on top of that when you go home at night. Not only that, but you get the added joy of standing on your feet all day long dealing with annoying high school kids.

LOL are you insane? Try 6 hour days, including breaks and lunch. 4 peroids in a high school and one of those is a spare for you to prepare lessons/mark etc. Christmas break is 2 weeks off, March break is a week off, if you are in a Catholic school you get another 5 days off in April for Easter. You also get 2 months off during the summer. It's unheard of that a teacher in elementary/high school wouldn't get their summers or breaks.

Also it depends on your teaching style, you can make things in the classroom difficult for yourself or easy, good teachers make days go by like a breeze.

You've taught before?

 

[MadAmos]

I have been training to be a mechanical Instructor at a Nuclear facility, it is definatly a specialty field and having the technical experience is the hardest part, but even in training I am making ~100k and once I have my final Qual. the rate is ~160k. So yes there are some higher paying instructor positions but it will probably take fining a field that you are interested in and spend a few years gaining experience in the field before you will find the right fit. In my case there were over 100 applicants for the one opening and in the end my experience in the subject matter was the key to being hired and it took 20 months from my first contact with my present employer before they made an offer.

 

[JDub02]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Also, why do you want to become a teacher? It's a lot more work than most people think, and a lot of places don't even get the summer off anymore. You'll be working 10 hour days, and then grading papers/homework on top of that when you go home at night. Not only that, but you get the added joy of standing on your feet all day long dealing with annoying high school kids.

LOL are you insane? Try 6 hour days, including breaks and lunch. 4 peroids in a high school and one of those is a spare for you to prepare lessons/mark etc. Christmas break is 2 weeks off, March break is a week off, if you are in a Catholic school you get another 5 days off in April for Easter. You also get 2 months off during the summer. It's unheard of that a teacher in elementary/high school wouldn't get their summers or breaks.

Also it depends on your teaching style, you can make things in the classroom difficult for yourself or easy, good teachers make days go by like a breeze.

Either you're nuts or my wife has it all wrong. That's how it used to be, but with all of the requirements implemented by No Child Left Behind, it's not like that any more. Someone would have to be crazy to want to become a teacher right now. The pay is horrible in most of the country and the days are very long once you factor in planning, grading, etc.

2 months off in the summer is nice, though.