Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: musicman87
i don't suggest bringing up any type of negative political conversation. he would embarrass you. he's a freaking former attorney general and you're gonna get raped if u try any funny business with him.
Yale undergrad + JD Univ Chic + Governor + Atty General = pwn a measily HS teacher who went to State.
Again, you make the error of equating social aspects with intellect or ability. While this is often correlated, there is no causal relationship. You don't get into schools based on IQ or skills...you get into schools based on social acclimation, desire, economic resource, and a bit of luck. Or sometimes you go to whatever school is in driving distance of your home.
The same is generally true of jobs, though in certain jobs there is obviously a skillset requirement. Very few require exceptional intellect however, and politics is not among them.
So getting into yale or any other top tier school doesn't require intellect or skills?
It can be correlated, but you can't establish a one-way definitive link either way. Many exceptional geniuses lack the social skills to pass an interview, and many lack the extracurriculars required by some schools. Numerous studies have established a strong link between IQ's more than 3SD's above norm and social dysfunctions. Social issues create school issues, which can keep you out of the running. Meanwhile if you're merely at the high end of average but have an exceptional work ethic, are outgoing, socially integrated, have a good support network, etc, then you could very well get into a top school.
The nearest factor of raw intellect that would be of value is test scores...SAT, ACT, GRE, LSAT, etc. Those are frequently aced by people who have no hope of attending the schools for other reasons.
The biggest two skill sets which honestly matter are social aptitude and study skills. Now, those are pretty much a requirement to a top school. Study skills has some raw G to it, but social aptitude either has nothing to do with IQ (if you're a generalist) or is only 1-2 of the multiple intelligences (and not related to those which comprise standard G scoring).
I'm not dissing the schools, or the people. I'm just pointing out that people commonly relate the two in ways that really aren't valid.
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