So I just saw Superman and I have a huge problem with the plot

[JS80]

Hollywood writers are dumb. I mean they're creative and all, but just dumb. The plot doesn't make any sense. Lex Luthor in search of money decides to create his own land by destroying the US. What he doesn't understand is that in the current global economy, currency is fiat currency, meaning it's only as good as the economy it's based on. So by destroying the US, you can't just sell barron wasteland and become a bazillionaire; you'll just be holding worthless rock. Oh and I love how they destory all of America except the west coast :roll:.

yea yea, it's a movie, but at least make it believable or make a little bit of sense.

edit: also, why didn't he just spin backwards and reverse the shvt lex caused like in superman 1?

 

[dxkj]

barren

he will supposedly have technology too, not just empty wasteland, it will form into buildings and shiz.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I haven't seen the movie, but yeah, you're way overanalyzing it. Seriously, thats not something a normal person would think about when watching a movie. Well the economics part of it.

In all honesty, probably just about every movie thats ever been made could be ripped to shreds based on things that don't make sense, just because you don't notice them doesn't mean they aren't there, and so most people not understanding your economics point wouldn't even know that it doesn't make sense.

As for believability, you're looking for that in a movie where there's a guy that can fly among other things?

 

[JS80]

All i'm asking for is basic economics.

Meh, reading too much Barron's mag.

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I haven't seen the movie, but yeah, you're way overanalyzing it. Seriously, thats not something a normal person would think about when watching a movie. Well the economics part of it.

In all honesty, probably just about every movie thats ever been made could be ripped to shreds based on things that don't make sense, just because you don't notice them doesn't mean they aren't there, and so most people not understanding your economics point wouldn't even know that it doesn't make sense.

As for believability, you're looking for that in a movie where there's a guy that can fly among other things?

I think it goes unspoken that when you enter discussions like this, you pretty much allow for one major supernatural occurance (ie, superman's powers) to pass unargued.
Come on, after hanging out in a nerd forum for so long, darkswordsman17, you should really know better than that

 

[dighn]

one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: dighn
one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

if anything, the ground would be preferable, especially if he's coming up to catch you. Furthermore, if you land in his arms, the force gets distributed over his two arms, which is considerably more pressure than if you hit the floor and spread the same force out over a larger area.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn
one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

if anything, the ground would be preferable, especially if he's coming up to catch you. Furthermore, if you land in his arms, the force gets distributed over his two arms, which is considerably more pressure than if you hit the floor and spread the same force out over a larger area.

definitely. superman is also much harder than concrete

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn
one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

if anything, the ground would be preferable, especially if he's coming up to catch you. Furthermore, if you land in his arms, the force gets distributed over his two arms, which is considerably more pressure than if you hit the floor and spread the same force out over a larger area.

definitely. superman is also much harder than concrete

and yet lois lane still manages to make love to him

 

[Pepsei]

wait, wait, if he got his power from the yellow sun, wouldn't he be normal near krypton, and die when he gets there?

 

[SKORPI0]

Superman Returns - movie mistakes

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I haven't seen the movie, but yeah, you're way overanalyzing it. Seriously, thats not something a normal person would think about when watching a movie. Well the economics part of it.

In all honesty, probably just about every movie thats ever been made could be ripped to shreds based on things that don't make sense, just because you don't notice them doesn't mean they aren't there, and so most people not understanding your economics point wouldn't even know that it doesn't make sense.

As for believability, you're looking for that in a movie where there's a guy that can fly among other things?

I think it goes unspoken that when you enter discussions like this, you pretty much allow for one major supernatural occurance (ie, superman's powers) to pass unargued.
Come on, after hanging out in a nerd forum for so long, darkswordsman17, you should really know better than that

Haha, touche. That part I was being very kidding with (not too easy to see I was being sarcastic through text).

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn
one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

if anything, the ground would be preferable, especially if he's coming up to catch you. Furthermore, if you land in his arms, the force gets distributed over his two arms, which is considerably more pressure than if you hit the floor and spread the same force out over a larger area.

definitely. superman is also much harder than concrete

:shocked:

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: dxkj
barren

he will supposedly have technology too, not just empty wasteland, it will form into buildings and shiz.

I guess if I saw some sign of alien technology I would have stopped thinking about it. But I can't. I want my $9.50 back.

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: lokiju

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn
one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

if anything, the ground would be preferable, especially if he's coming up to catch you. Furthermore, if you land in his arms, the force gets distributed over his two arms, which is considerably more pressure than if you hit the floor and spread the same force out over a larger area.

definitely. superman is also much harder than concrete

:shocked:

sicko

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn
one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

if anything, the ground would be preferable, especially if he's coming up to catch you. Furthermore, if you land in his arms, the force gets distributed over his two arms, which is considerably more pressure than if you hit the floor and spread the same force out over a larger area.

definitely. superman is also much harder than concrete

and yet lois lane still manages to make love to him

Superman 2. he loses his powers for her and becomes a normal man. then they make love.

 

[Queasy]

I never like the "Real Estate Robber Baron" Lex Luthor concept in the movies. Just doesn't mesh with the whole evil genius thing IMHO.

 

[maddogchen]

but real estate is the easiest way to make money! or so i've heard.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: TheChort

Originally posted by: dighn
one problem I've always had with superman is how he catches people falling. he never matches speed with the falling person and then decelerate gracefully, I mean there isn't much difference between smashing into the ground or the man of steel

if anything, the ground would be preferable, especially if he's coming up to catch you. Furthermore, if you land in his arms, the force gets distributed over his two arms, which is considerably more pressure than if you hit the floor and spread the same force out over a larger area.

definitely. superman is also much harder than concrete

and yet lois lane still manages to make love to him

Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
but real estate is the easiest way to make money! or so i've heard.

I thought it was those wireless internet ATM machines. You get to sit on a pool lounge and count cash all day.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: dighndefinitely. superman is also much harder than concrete

Thats what she said! woooooooooooo!

 

[middlehead]

Wasn't he just buying all the land on the east side of the San Andreas fault and planning to knock off California? I haven't seen the movie yet but I remember seeing a plot of that nature; just can't remember if it was a comic or a synposis of the movie.

 

[preslove]

He was going to use the other crystals to use the kryptonian technology to practically enslave the rest of the world. All the stuff was going to be grown from the crystals.

edit: I would have liked to have seen a play on the modern lex luthor and his being president of the us.

 

[eleison]

The Biggest problem I have with superman returns is the storyline. I can forgive the small details (catching when people fall, brown eyes, http://www.moviemistakes.com/film5443, etc.) But in SR, Singer total remade the characters.

1) Lois Lane is now a slutt. She has a superboy kid, but yet she doesn't tell her current boyfriend Richard, who is Perry White's nephew. The same Perry White who HAPPENS to be her boss.. The worst part of it is making Richard believe that the kid could be his...

2) Superman is now a "player". Not in the way that he sleeps arround with women. Not in that way. But in the way that he treats his current girlfriend. He sleeps with them and then he leaves for an extended amount of time (in this case 5 years) without giving a reason.. In the movie, I dont even thinks he ever apologizes for abandoning his kid. He's no longer the good boy scout that everyone loves. Besides, players do not ask their girlfriends that they have had kids with to marry them. Did superman ask lois lane when he found out? Did he even ask for a commitment. I didn't think so. He is a player.

General gripe: Superman was about characters doing the right thing. Characters that we can look up to. Superman as defined by Brian Singer... well, its kinda ... underwhelming.. give me the superman from the first two movies anytime..

-Eleison

 

[Wheatmaster]

at least this movie stayed sorta close to the comics, i heard the original script for superman was to have completely ridculious plots (i.e. Krypton wasn't blown up, just in the middle of a civil war, Lex Luthor is actually from Krypton, etc etc.)