OrganizedChaos
Diamond Member
cover door with thumbtacks?
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So I have this neighbor
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Unfortunaly not all complexes are alike. I want to "strangle" the lady above me. When you live in a complex and it's not really really sound proofed you can't just do "every day things" like you live in a house or something. You always need to be consciencious of what you are doing. You need to be thinking of other people.
Which means you can't be a heavy walker. Footsteps really carry. And there are 3 of you? Imagine hearing 6 pairs of heavy walking all day. It will drive you batty. Someone is over there, now over there, over there in that room. Creaking here Creaking there. Walk lighter so the steps dont thump on the floor.
When you open and close cabinets you just dont let them slam shut. Sure you aren't pushing them shut hard but just letting it go out of your hands from a foot away will really make a loud noise. Now you have 3 of you making meals all day and night. Those cabinet doors can be shutting 100 times a day. Hold the cabinet door and dont let go until it's closed. Then it wont make a loud knocking noise.
Then you have doors. Open close, open close over and over and over. But you're just opening a door like you have to! Well just doing that is loud! When you close the door turn the handle first and lightly push it shut. The latch will be pulled back so there will be no resistance.
The 3 of you must listen to music or watch TV. Be careful it's not loud. And bass carries a long long way.
I know you think you are not being loud and just doing everyday things. But thats the problem. You live in a community and are just doing things like no one is around. You can't do that. You need to learn to be more soft. Or find a place where there are cement floors and good sound proofing. It sounds like you chose a place that is not. So you need to make adjustments and be thinking of other people. In time it just becomes habit and you dont even try anymore.
It's kind of like going to a movie theater if you were 8 feet tall and sitting down right in front of the only other people in the theater. What you aren't doing anything wrong? You are just watching a movie like you "usually do". But things are not usual and you would need to be mindful of that and consiencious of where you sit.
You have no Idea how insane all that noise will drive someone. I wanted to go punch the inconsiderate lady above me. Just a dumb blonde who is oblivious to anyone around her. I couldn't enjoy living in my own home. I was so stressed out my health got really bad. My mind was falling apart my body was falling apart. I was about to have a nervous breakdown. I went and bought a house and put my condo on the market. Now I feel better than ever. I will never EVER go back to condo living. The thing is she used to have a roommate. I had no idea she had a roommate. Her roommate was quiet as a mouse. They both just did their "normal things" but her roommate did them softer and was reasonable. But the one I couldn't stand would do them all without thinking and was very loud. Not loud if you are in a house with no one to consider but loud if you are underneith in a condo.
Now imagine THREE of you doing this. The poor lady must be going batty.
Which means you can't be a heavy walker. Footsteps really carry. And there are 3 of you? Imagine hearing 6 pairs of heavy walking all day. It will drive you batty. Someone is over there, now over there, over there in that room. Creaking here Creaking there. Walk lighter so the steps dont thump on the floor.
When you open and close cabinets you just dont let them slam shut. Sure you aren't pushing them shut hard but just letting it go out of your hands from a foot away will really make a loud noise. Now you have 3 of you making meals all day and night. Those cabinet doors can be shutting 100 times a day. Hold the cabinet door and dont let go until it's closed. Then it wont make a loud knocking noise.
Then you have doors. Open close, open close over and over and over. But you're just opening a door like you have to! Well just doing that is loud! When you close the door turn the handle first and lightly push it shut. The latch will be pulled back so there will be no resistance.
The 3 of you must listen to music or watch TV. Be careful it's not loud. And bass carries a long long way.
I know you think you are not being loud and just doing everyday things. But thats the problem. You live in a community and are just doing things like no one is around. You can't do that. You need to learn to be more soft. Or find a place where there are cement floors and good sound proofing. It sounds like you chose a place that is not. So you need to make adjustments and be thinking of other people. In time it just becomes habit and you dont even try anymore.
It's kind of like going to a movie theater if you were 8 feet tall and sitting down right in front of the only other people in the theater. What you aren't doing anything wrong? You are just watching a movie like you "usually do". But things are not usual and you would need to be mindful of that and consiencious of where you sit.
You have no Idea how insane all that noise will drive someone. I wanted to go punch the inconsiderate lady above me. Just a dumb blonde who is oblivious to anyone around her. I couldn't enjoy living in my own home. I was so stressed out my health got really bad. My mind was falling apart my body was falling apart. I was about to have a nervous breakdown. I went and bought a house and put my condo on the market. Now I feel better than ever. I will never EVER go back to condo living. The thing is she used to have a roommate. I had no idea she had a roommate. Her roommate was quiet as a mouse. They both just did their "normal things" but her roommate did them softer and was reasonable. But the one I couldn't stand would do them all without thinking and was very loud. Not loud if you are in a house with no one to consider but loud if you are underneith in a condo.
Now imagine THREE of you doing this. The poor lady must be going batty.
Your post carries some merit, but the OP stated that he and his roommates have lived in three different apartments previously without complaint. Thus, at the least, they have experience with the common concessions a person must make in order to be a respectful neighbor.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, some people simply expect apartments to be completely quiet all of the time. Sorry to say, this will never be the reality of the situation. In your case, it seems that moving out of a condo/apartment setting was the right thing to do, especially if noise was what it took to cause you physical and emotional turmoil. Did you ever address the issue with the woman upstairs, or did you simply keep a whole lot of resentment bottled up inside?
Yeah I have. But I had to keep it in most the time or I'd be banging on her door like that old lady all the time. And I'm usually to mild for that. And she seemed to get slightly better though. Then eventually she went and bought a freaking dog as a pet and would let it bark constantly. The HOA has been taking care of that and fining her. Although the barking is greatly reduced she still lets it bark every morning and when she's at home after work. She'll just get more fines. She just doesn't really care.
She used to also park about a foot into my parking space all the time. And if I have to park a foot over then the next people beside me can't even get in because it's hard since they are on the end. She just pulls in and doesn't care where she's at. No one should be that inconsiderate. I went and told her off and she stopped that though. But That's the problem she just wants to live her life like no one else is around to think about. And I'm thinking that maybe to some extent the OP was lucky in the complexes he lived in before because they were more soundproof so they could get away with it. And now some adjustments need to be made and he doesn't realize it.
Maybe if he could go over there and hang out in her place for a while and let people do their every day life he'd probably be surprised at how really bad it is. I mean it may be she is partly to sensitive and partly the complex. I dont know. I'm just saying it must be a lot of noise to make her come yelling over and over. Noise is ok if it's reasonable. I expect some noise and I'm sure she does too. I'm sure she's lived with some level of noise from previous tenants above. I doubt she goes and yells at every single person thats ever lived there constantly over and over. There must be some merit to it at least. Maybe at least *try* something differernt and see if the OP gets results. That might be reasobale no?
She used to also park about a foot into my parking space all the time. And if I have to park a foot over then the next people beside me can't even get in because it's hard since they are on the end. She just pulls in and doesn't care where she's at. No one should be that inconsiderate. I went and told her off and she stopped that though. But That's the problem she just wants to live her life like no one else is around to think about. And I'm thinking that maybe to some extent the OP was lucky in the complexes he lived in before because they were more soundproof so they could get away with it. And now some adjustments need to be made and he doesn't realize it.
Maybe if he could go over there and hang out in her place for a while and let people do their every day life he'd probably be surprised at how really bad it is. I mean it may be she is partly to sensitive and partly the complex. I dont know. I'm just saying it must be a lot of noise to make her come yelling over and over. Noise is ok if it's reasonable. I expect some noise and I'm sure she does too. I'm sure she's lived with some level of noise from previous tenants above. I doubt she goes and yells at every single person thats ever lived there constantly over and over. There must be some merit to it at least. Maybe at least *try* something differernt and see if the OP gets results. That might be reasobale no?
I know when I used to live in an apartment the first requirement was cement floors and walls. I would never move in a place where I could hear my neighbors above me, I'd go nuts. But that's why I bought a house. I'm sure if she couldn't hear you she wouldn't be complaining, but on the flip side I'm sure you guys don't think you're being too loud.
PingSpike
Lifer
I agree with v1001. While the lady is probably kind of nuts, and we don't know anything about the OP...some people are just plain loud. They talk loud, they stomp around everywhere, and they do their normal routine like a drunk gorilla. Now, I'm not saying this is the case for the OP...just a general thing.
Frankly, I don't understand why they even build condos and apartments without extensive soundproofing between the units. It seems like the additional cost would be well worth the reduced aggrivation it causes tenants and management.
Our neighbor is terrible with her screaming kid who stomps around the house. Thats annoying, but I can live with it. The really annoying thing is her damn stereo. When I go over there to complain, I ask her to turn the BASS down. I can't hear the music...just an annoying base line that makes it impossible to read, sleep or even enjoy TV! But she just turns the music down (which isn't really loud in the first place!) and acts like I'm unreasonable. FUCK YOU!
Ultimately, you just have to move. Its a pain in the ass, but what else can you do? For us, this was the spark the got us rolling on buying a house.
Frankly, I don't understand why they even build condos and apartments without extensive soundproofing between the units. It seems like the additional cost would be well worth the reduced aggrivation it causes tenants and management.
Our neighbor is terrible with her screaming kid who stomps around the house. Thats annoying, but I can live with it. The really annoying thing is her damn stereo. When I go over there to complain, I ask her to turn the BASS down. I can't hear the music...just an annoying base line that makes it impossible to read, sleep or even enjoy TV! But she just turns the music down (which isn't really loud in the first place!) and acts like I'm unreasonable. FUCK YOU!
Ultimately, you just have to move. Its a pain in the ass, but what else can you do? For us, this was the spark the got us rolling on buying a house.
Gooberlx2
Lifer
What kind of floors? Carpet or wood? Very old building?
The last apt my wife and I lived in had wood floors and was build in the late 1890s. Sound from the apt above carried and actually amplified the sound. The girl up there would walk around in metal heels, making it sound like a damn horse with shoes was trotting around. They even were playing yahtzee once and the sound of dice amplified to drums....it was ridiculous how bad the acoustics affected everything.
OTOH, we never complained until it was atleast 11pm.
The last apt my wife and I lived in had wood floors and was build in the late 1890s. Sound from the apt above carried and actually amplified the sound. The girl up there would walk around in metal heels, making it sound like a damn horse with shoes was trotting around. They even were playing yahtzee once and the sound of dice amplified to drums....it was ridiculous how bad the acoustics affected everything.
OTOH, we never complained until it was atleast 11pm.
palindrome
Senior member
We are not the party types, we actually choose apartments farther from the university to get away from that crap. We have carpet all around, we are typically very quiet and as I said before, we have never had a complaint in any previous apartment. I talked to our next door neighbors and they haven't heard a peep. I actually haven't even played music on my stereo since I've moved in. God only knows what would happen if I did. Also, keep in mind this lady is at home almost 24/7 and does not seem to have a job.
palindrome
Senior member
Haha, nope. No fatties in our apartment. I'm 6" 170lbs soaking wet, my roommates are both smaller than I.
palindrome
Senior member
The complex was built in 2000 or 2001, don't remember. Also noise disturbances can't be reported until after 10 pm on weekdays and midnight on weekends in my city. This lady comes up during daylight hours and beat down our door. A police report was filed today for harassment. 😀
palindrome
Senior member
I don't want to become friends with a middle aged fat lady on welfare... Not my idea of a good time.
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