So I go see The Matrix: Reloaded and a 4 year old sits down next to me...

[kt]

Originally posted by: MachFive

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: MachFive

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: AstIsis

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.

at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on

Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.

Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.

Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.

Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

Actually, I know several people who are raising their kids on a philosophy of, "If they're old enough to ask, they're old enough to be told the truth." Sex, drugs, violence, you name it, if the kid asks, he gets an honest and simple answer.

Needless to say, they're some of the brightest and most mature kids I've ever met, and I'll probably do the same thing if hell freezes over and I decide to propagate my genetic line.

That's something completely different than what we're talking about though. I completely agree with that train of thought - However, I do not agree with the notion that it is okay to blatantly expose your children to adult things. It doesen't have anything to do with religion or any nonsense like that.

Religion? That's funny, I didn't bring up religion. Why are you bringing it up?

I'll give you one post to clarify before I unleash the rabid nontheist on ya. It's taking all my willpower just to keep him restrained! DOWN BOY!

You jumped into a middle of a discussion without reading the whole discussion. AstIsis brought up religion, not Eli. Eli merely dismissing that religious factor has nothing to do with the fact that a small child should not have to be exposed to adult rated movie just because the parent couldn't find a baby sitter.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: kt
Talking about bad parenting. We went to a 11:30PM showing of The Matrix thinking there wouldn't be kids going that late. But I guess that doesn't keep stupid parents from bringing their kid anyway. Half way through the movie, the kid started crying. Of course, it's WAAY past his bed time. This went on for about 30 minutes before she finally decided to walk out with the kids. Then everyone started to applaud. If I weren't too busy watching the movie, I would gave her a piece of my mind.

I'll agree with you on it being bad-parenting, but only because it sounds like a really young child (crying for 1/2 an hour), and it was an R-rated movie.

However, as far as the time is concerned, unless it was a school night, I see nothing wrong with the time.

We have these things in my area that a lot of you have probably never seen... they're called "drive-in movies". The drive-in is a place where you watch movies from your car (or more often, in lawn chairs in front of the car) while eating tons candy and chips and all sorts of junk food. Since it needs to be dark out to watch a movie outdoors, the movies don't start until at least 9:30 pm. We typically don't get home until well after 1 a.m. Probably 3/4 of all the movies shown locally appeal to the general family audience. (not a lot of R stuff and not too many dramas). Anyone who went with their family as a child probably has fond memories of these times. My own kids really enjoy it too. It's too bad drive-ins are disappearing from the American landscape. Nonetheless, I have *never* heard anyone say anything negative about kids being at the drive-in so late with their parents. And, I don't think I could count all of my kids' friends that we've taken along with us. (they often charge $5 or $10 a carload on the family nights)

On another note, I took my son to see the most recent Star Wars at midnight when it first played. He had to take a nap from 6:30 to 11 so he wasn't too tired for school the next day. I have to say that this was one of his favorite moments from his middle school years. He was the only kid to have gone from his middle school and was instantly elevated to fame and coolness in his school, something that's really important to all middle school aged students as they try to get acceptance from their peers.

edit: And, he asked, "Can we see the first showing of the Matrix Reloaded?" No, I'm not letting you stay up late for an R-rated movie.

 

[RyanM]

And you jumped in, skipping over my VERY last post. You're good at this internet thing! ;-)

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: MachFive
And you jumped in, skipping over my VERY last post. You're good at this internet thing! ;-)

Actually, the post I quoted was the very last post at the time I press the Quote button.

<sarcasm detection on>
And what does this have to do with whether I am good at this internet thing or not?
<sarcasm detection off>

 

[RyanM]

Well, you took your time writing that post. There's a 15 minute difference in the timestamps.

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: MachFive
Well, you took your time writing that post. There's a 15 minute difference in the timestamps.

And that's how long it took me to get myself from my chair to the restroom and back.

 

[RyanM]

And the mystery is solved.

New mystery - Was the stay in the bathroom just really long, or is your bathroom REALLY far away?

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: kt
Talking about bad parenting. We went to a 11:30PM showing of The Matrix thinking there wouldn't be kids going that late. But I guess that doesn't keep stupid parents from bringing their kid anyway. Half way through the movie, the kid started crying. Of course, it's WAAY past his bed time. This went on for about 30 minutes before she finally decided to walk out with the kids. Then everyone started to applaud. If I weren't too busy watching the movie, I would gave her a piece of my mind.

I'll agree with you on it being bad-parenting, but only because it sounds like a really young child (crying for 1/2 an hour), and it was an R-rated movie.

However, as far as the time is concerned, unless it was a school night, I see nothing wrong with the time.

We have these things in my area that a lot of you have probably never seen... they're called "drive-in movies". The drive-in is a place where you watch movies from your car (or more often, in lawn chairs in front of the car) while eating tons candy and chips and all sorts of junk food. Since it needs to be dark out to watch a movie outdoors, the movies don't start until at least 9:30 pm. We typically don't get home until well after 1 a.m. Probably 3/4 of all the movies shown locally appeal to the general family audience. (not a lot of R stuff and not too many dramas). Anyone who went with their family as a child probably has fond memories of these times. My own kids really enjoy it too. It's too bad drive-ins are disappearing from the American landscape. Nonetheless, I have *never* heard anyone say anything negative about kids being at the drive-in so late with their parents. And, I don't think I could count all of my kids' friends that we've taken along with us. (they often charge $5 or $10 a carload on the family nights)

On another note, I took my son to see the most recent Star Wars at midnight when it first played. He had to take a nap from 6:30 to 11 so he wasn't too tired for school the next day. I have to say that this was one of his favorite moments from his middle school years. He was the only kid to have gone from his middle school and was instantly elevated to fame and coolness in his school, something that's really important to all middle school aged students as they try to get acceptance from their peers.

edit: And, he asked, "Can we see the first showing of the Matrix Reloaded?" No, I'm not letting you stay up late for an R-rated movie.

The kid could not have been any older than 3 or 4. So, school or no school they shouldn't be out that late. And I HIGHLY doubt it is her kid watching the movie. There's a difference between taking your kid to watch a movie because he wanted to watch it then bringing your kid to a movie because YOU want to watch it.

 

Not all kids are misbehaving twits.

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: MachFive
And the mystery is solved.

New mystery - Was the stay in the bathroom just really long, or is your bathroom REALLY far away?

And how is that any of your business? Do you want a pics of me taking a dump? If you do, then it will explain a lot about your twisted mind. And we have just proved our case without having to look any further for an example.

 

[AstIsis]

Originally posted by: kt
You jumped into a middle of a discussion without reading the whole discussion. AstIsis brought up religion, not Eli. Eli merely dismissing that religious factor has nothing to do with the fact that a small child should not have to be exposed to adult rated movie just because the parent couldn't find a baby sitter.

Uhm..I am not the one who brought up religion. I prefer not to make inferences about others when debating.

 

[DrPizza]

The kid could not have been any older than 3 or 4. So, school or no school they shouldn't be out that late. And I HIGHLY doubt it is her kid watching the movie. There's a difference between taking your kid to watch a movie because he wanted to watch it then bringing your kid to a movie because YOU want to watch it.

I completely agree.... big difference between 3 year old and 12 year old, as well as a big difference between them wanting to watch it and you dragging them too it. The 3 and 4 year olds are easiest at the drive-in... park facing backwards, open the hatch on the SUV, and turn the back end into a bed for them... they almost always fall asleep after the first movie.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

When I saw Phone Booth there was a 6 year old kid sitting behind me. I was wondering who would bring such a young kid to such a violent movie...but he was quiet the whole time. I was pretty impressed

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: AstIsis

Originally posted by: kt
You jumped into a middle of a discussion without reading the whole discussion. AstIsis brought up religion, not Eli. Eli merely dismissing that religious factor has nothing to do with the fact that a small child should not have to be exposed to adult rated movie just because the parent couldn't find a baby sitter.

Uhm..I am not the one who brought up religion. I prefer not to make inferences about others when debating.

My apologies, someone quoted your discussions slipped it in there. I guess Eli was just responding to what the other person said about religious fanatics controlling media content.

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
When I saw Phone Booth there was a 6 year old kid sitting behind me. I was wondering who would bring such a young kid to such a violent movie...but he was quiet the whole time. I was pretty impressed

You sure he wasn't busy taking mental notes?

 

[MainFramed]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1
WOW

so pigs are flying now???

<--eagerly looks out window with digi cam ready

LMAO

 

[RyanM]

Originally posted by: kt

Originally posted by: MachFive
And the mystery is solved.

New mystery - Was the stay in the bathroom just really long, or is your bathroom REALLY far away?

And how is that any of your business? Do you want a pics of me taking a dump? If you do, then it will explain a lot about your twisted mind. And we have just proved our case without having to look any further for an example.

I would strongly advise you GROW A SENSE OF HUMOR.

Jesus, some of you people are really scaring me with how serious you are all of the time.

 

[atom]

Bah, my parents took me to see violent movies when I was young (saw Robocop in theatres when I was 6) I don't think it screwed me up one bit. Kids are a lot smarter than the monkey see monkey do attitude most grown ups give them credit for.

Anyways, I was at a showing at X2 and a 5 Y/O girl sat 2 seats away from me. She was kinda loud before the show. We even talked a little bit ( small talk, like whats her favorite character, etc.). But when the movie came on she shut up, I was pretty surprised.

 

[gwlam12]

i dunno...saw violent movies when i was small..now i have violent images in my head

 

[gwlam12]

nightmares of monsters hiding under the stairs turned into nightmares of a burglar shooting me in the head

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: MachFive

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: MachFive

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: AstIsis

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.

at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on

Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.

Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.

Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.

Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

Actually, I know several people who are raising their kids on a philosophy of, "If they're old enough to ask, they're old enough to be told the truth." Sex, drugs, violence, you name it, if the kid asks, he gets an honest and simple answer.

Needless to say, they're some of the brightest and most mature kids I've ever met, and I'll probably do the same thing if hell freezes over and I decide to propagate my genetic line.

That's something completely different than what we're talking about though. I completely agree with that train of thought - However, I do not agree with the notion that it is okay to blatantly expose your children to adult things. It doesen't have anything to do with religion or any nonsense like that.

Religion? That's funny, I didn't bring up religion. Why are you bringing it up?

I'll give you one post to clarify before I unleash the rabid nontheist on ya. It's taking all my willpower just to keep him restrained! DOWN BOY!

It was Jmmsbnd007 that brought it up.

I mentioned it, no one quoted me.

 

[kenrippy]

there was a friggin 3 month old baby in our theater cryin half the time. especially bad when i couldn't concentrate on the oracle. i was about to yell something, but some chic in the back yelled "take the baby out" LOL. nothing worse than that.

 

[Gage]

At the risk of being labled a bad parent, I will admit that I took my 7 year old to see the matrix on a saturday afternoon. She is really into martial arts and loved watching the fight scenes. She did NOT however watch the sex scenes. I saw the movie the thursday before and covered her eyes during the whole rave/sex scene. (I wish someone could have done the same for me).

She was a lot better behaved then the asshat teenagers sitting behind me. Apparently one of them had never seen the first matrix and the whole movie had to be explained to him over and over again during the movie.

As for being overexposed to violence, well, she has 2 older step brothers (13 and 15) and they aren't really careful around her when they come to visit. (Not that I'm blaming them, Im just pointing out that she's exposed in various ways) She knows the difference between real and make-believe. And she knows the difference between right and wrong. (My daughter said, "If someone tried to give me a pill and told me to jump off a building, I would say "You are crazy boy!!")

I think that by not making it a big deal it takes a lot of the mystery out of it and makes it less tempting.

But that's just my opinion.

 

[cavemanmoron]

 

[everman]

Two kids around 5 or 6 sat in front of me w/ their parents when I saw reloaded, they never made any noise at all. I don't think they really belong there watching that though. I imagine a baby sitter would have cost as much or less than what it cost for their admission and drinks etc.