So I go see The Matrix: Reloaded and a 4 year old sits down next to me...

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AstIsis

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.

at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
That's completely irrelevant. Just because they don't understand yet doesen't mean it's okay for them to see the images.

Besides, you would be surprised. People don't give kids nearly enough credit.

What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.

 

Tab

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Ugh, I absolutely hate it parents bring thier toddlers to movies and church and any other events. Then they start crying and scream! Or people with cell phones, if they say something like. "I am in the middle of a movie, eating etc.." that doesnt bother me. I just want to ring them by their necks!
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif
 

no0b

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: datalink7
...and doesn't say a single word the entire movie! :Q

I was extremely suprised. I was real worried when the little girl, and her parents, sat down right next to me. I thought the child would make a lot of noise and ruin the movie for me (and everyone else).

I still don't know about taking a 4 year old to a movie like The Matrix, but I must say she was very well behaved.



Did not know that you were from Detroit...

That sounds fishy that she had the apple juice for 10 days then had it tested.

If that flight attendant did try to slip the kid a drug I would be congradulating her.

 

AstIsis

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.

 

Kev

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I've been impressed with the kids in my area lately. Usually all I hear through the movies now are cell phones. Unfortunately the phones are across the theater from me instead of right in front of me, or they wouldn't be ringing a second time during the movie.

i was at a movie theater the other day and right as the movie started some guy yelled, "hey look the movie's starting, i guess i better TURN OFF MY CELL PHONE."

it was funny because then all the tools sitting around me started reaching for their phones and turning them off... very effective indeed
 

Vic

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Someone took their 4 year-old kid to an "R" rated movie?? :confused:

I thought that kind of stupid thing only happened in Eugene. :p
 

Dacalo

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Anyone else thought the movie was a let down?

I was yawning through out the first half, and the some actions scenes were already shown in the previews... bah!
 

clamum

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Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.

at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
That's completely irrelevant. Just because they don't understand yet doesen't mean it's okay for them to see the images.

Besides, you would be surprised. People don't give kids nearly enough credit.

What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.

Amen! :)
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: dolph
Originally posted by: kt
Talking about bad parenting. We went to a 11:30PM showing of The Matrix thinking there wouldn't be kids going that late. But I guess that doesn't keep stupid parents from bringing their kid anyway. Half way through the movie, the kid started crying. Of course, it's WAAY past his bed time. This went on for about 30 minutes before she finally decided to walk out with the kids. Then everyone started to applaud. If I weren't too busy watching the movie, I would gave her a piece of my mind.

what kind of parent would bring a child to a midnight showing of a rated r movie?

the kind that shouldnt be a parent
My local AMC has a rule... no little brat kids past 6 pm in any rated R movie :)
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.
It is needed. Sex is a natural course of nature, why not educate them about it? Of course the modern religious fanatics of today have made sex seem bad and rebellious.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: no0b
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: datalink7
...and doesn't say a single word the entire movie! :Q

I was extremely suprised. I was real worried when the little girl, and her parents, sat down right next to me. I thought the child would make a lot of noise and ruin the movie for me (and everyone else).

I still don't know about taking a 4 year old to a movie like The Matrix, but I must say she was very well behaved.



Did not know that you were from Detroit...

That sounds fishy that she had the apple juice for 10 days then had it tested.

If that flight attendant did try to slip the kid a drug I would be congradulating her.

As would I, that was probably a very long flight
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

Actually, I know several people who are raising their kids on a philosophy of, "If they're old enough to ask, they're old enough to be told the truth." Sex, drugs, violence, you name it, if the kid asks, he gets an honest and simple answer.

Needless to say, they're some of the brightest and most mature kids I've ever met, and I'll probably do the same thing if hell freezes over and I decide to propagate my genetic line.
 

AstIsis

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

So they should learn about sex and violence from their peers?! As I stated before, there is nothing wrong with sex and it is nothing to be ashamed of. I am not saying advocate small children having sex or even teenagers, but I do think they need to learn what sex is and when it is appropriate to have sex.

BTW...I am not 15. I happen to be a COO of a successful company and in my late 20's.

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

Actually, I know several people who are raising their kids on a philosophy of, "If they're old enough to ask, they're old enough to be told the truth." Sex, drugs, violence, you name it, if the kid asks, he gets an honest and simple answer.

Needless to say, they're some of the brightest and most mature kids I've ever met, and I'll probably do the same thing if hell freezes over and I decide to propagate my genetic line.

That's something completely different than what we're talking about though. I completely agree with that train of thought - However, I do not agree with the notion that it is okay to blatantly expose your children to adult things. It doesen't have anything to do with religion or any nonsense like that.
 

Looney

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Kids don't normally bother me... it's the young teens that do.

I went to the movies yesterday, and the theater was empty except for a couple of OLD ladies... one was 80, and the other must have been her daughter at 60. I was a few rows behind them, but i saw covering their faces a lot during the movie. It was funny.

EDIT: it was Matrix Reloaded as well.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

So they should learn about sex and violence from their peers?! As I stated before, there is nothing wrong with sex and it is nothing to be ashamed of. I am not saying advocate small children having sex or even teenagers, but I do think they need to learn what sex is and when it is appropriate to have sex.

BTW...I am not 15. I happen to be a COO of a successful company and in my late 20's.
We are talking about a 4 year old.

If you want to teach your kids about sex at the age of 4, that's your business. That doesen't mean they should be witnessing it on the big screen.

It is painfully obvious that you guys saying this is okay do not have children. :p

It is one thing to teach and educate them, instead of letting their peers do it. It is something completely different to take them to an R rated movie.

Fscking christ.
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

Actually, I know several people who are raising their kids on a philosophy of, "If they're old enough to ask, they're old enough to be told the truth." Sex, drugs, violence, you name it, if the kid asks, he gets an honest and simple answer.

Needless to say, they're some of the brightest and most mature kids I've ever met, and I'll probably do the same thing if hell freezes over and I decide to propagate my genetic line.

That's something completely different than what we're talking about though. I completely agree with that train of thought - However, I do not agree with the notion that it is okay to blatantly expose your children to adult things. It doesen't have anything to do with religion or any nonsense like that.

Religion? That's funny, I didn't bring up religion. Why are you bringing it up?

I'll give you one post to clarify before I unleash the rabid nontheist on ya. It's taking all my willpower just to keep him restrained! DOWN BOY!
 

DT4K

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You think watching a sex scene in The Matrix is somehow educational to kids?
4 year olds don't need to know about sex, especially not the hollywood entertainment version.

I would be more concerned about the violence. Exposing children to violence at a young age desensitizes them. I'm not one that blames the media for all the violence in this world, but letting a 4 year old watch The Matrix is a recipe for more Columbines. It should be considered child abuse and the kid should be taken away from those parents.

And yes, 4 year olds do pay attention and "get it".

 

Wingznut

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A child asking about the facts of life (sex, violence, drugs, etc...), and taking them to see the images of, are two very different things. There's no good reason to place those images in front of a child who isn't mature enough to understand them.

Let them be children.

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: AstIsis
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Eli
Christ.. As much as I like the movie, it's hardly appropriate for children.
at 4 i doubt they understand whats going on
Obviously, you don't have a 4-yr old. As Eli said, people don't give kids enough credit.


Originally posted by: AstIsis
What images? Sex? Oh dear...let's hide all images of sex from children so that they are ignorant about it as they mature. Personally, I think we should start explaining it to them early so that they know what it is and that it is something beautiful between two people who love each other.

If it is the violence, then you might not want them to even leave the house. It is not only plastered all over network tv, but is also in games/schools, you name it. Once again, the sooner we start teaching children what violence is and how to deal with it, the better off we are.

Besides, we should also be instructing them on what is real and what is "make believe" so that they can recognize the difference.
Please do your kids a HUGE favor and mature before you have them.
rolleye.gif

ROFLMAO..I don't have kids nor do I care for them much. I just see no reason to treat them like they are retarded. When my 3.5 year old niece asks me a question, I answer her honestly.
Uhh?

Please, keep it that way. I don't have children either, but I have enough brains to know some basic "kid etiquette". It has nothing to do with "treating them like they're retarded". Come on. You will understand one day. I hope.

There are some things children just don't need to see. Sex scenes are one of them. It is in no way beneficial. It is not educational-- at least not in the way you want them educated. It's not needed. That's why movies have ratings in the first place.

I probably would have said the same thing- when I was 15.

Actually, I know several people who are raising their kids on a philosophy of, "If they're old enough to ask, they're old enough to be told the truth." Sex, drugs, violence, you name it, if the kid asks, he gets an honest and simple answer.

Needless to say, they're some of the brightest and most mature kids I've ever met, and I'll probably do the same thing if hell freezes over and I decide to propagate my genetic line.

That's something completely different than what we're talking about though. I completely agree with that train of thought - However, I do not agree with the notion that it is okay to blatantly expose your children to adult things. It doesen't have anything to do with religion or any nonsense like that.

Religion? That's funny, I didn't bring up religion. Why are you bringing it up?

I'll give you one post to clarify before I unleash the rabid nontheist on ya. It's taking all my willpower just to keep him restrained! DOWN BOY!

It was Jmmsbnd007 that brought it up.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Eli
We are talking about a 4 year old.

If you want to teach your kids about sex at the age of 4, that's your business. That doesen't mean they should be witnessing it on the big screen.

It is painfully obvious that you guys saying this is okay do not have children. :p

It is one thing to teach and educate them, instead of letting their peers do it. It is something completely different to take them to an R rated movie.
EXACTLY!