So, I am going to the chiropractor tommorrow

[DrPizza]

I posted a thread a couple weeks ago about going to the chiro for frequent headaches... I've only had one headache since. Prior to the chiro visit (most of the headaches originated in the neck area, almost like a tension headache), I woke up with a headache *every* day. Problem solved in one visit. I had the same problem with headaches 5 or 6 years ago; I went to the chiro 4 times before the effects were lasting. It seems that the problem possibly originated in one of the two car accidents in which I was rear-ended while sitting at a red light.

I also had numbness in my right thumb; I thought the beginnings of carpal tunnel were setting in... My hand and wrist really bothered me when I went fishing, after about 1/2 an hour to an hour of reeling (I do a lot of fishing; it was a problem that plagued me everytime I went)... Chiro adjusted my wrist, and I haven't had numbness in my thumb since, plus I went on a week long fishing vacation (many many hours of fishing) and didn't have a single problem.

As eits said, research... some chiros really don't seem to know their stuff, or are just plain quacks.

 

[eits]

9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: eits
9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

so do you work for a chiropractor or a related-type office?

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

so do you work for a chiropractor or a related-type office?

I think he is a med student.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[jhayx7]

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

so do you work for a chiropractor or a related-type office?

I think he is a med student.

Cheers,
Aquaman

Nah, Holiday Inn Express.

 

[EPCrew]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: EPCrew

Originally posted by: moshquerade
once you start going they will keep you coming back.

This is exactly the reason why you shouldn't go even for the first time. He/she will make you feel better by cracking your back and you'll feel the need to return to him every time your back starts to bother you again. perhaps a neurologist would be more in order.

what would a neurologist be able to tell you that a chiropractor couldn't?

Everyone that I know of that has gone to a chiropractor hasn't learned anything but how to go and get their backs cracked. and then they go back...

My father had back problems over the last few years and had back surgery last year to fix a herniated disc. when he wasn't able to regain his leg strength his neurologist recommended a neck MRI and then a head MRI and then found this... http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1846957&enterthread=y

I'm far from being a doctor myself, but i'd rather go get some tests done rather than have a chiropractor give me temporary relief.

 

[49erinnc]

Originally posted by: eits
chiropractors are just like any other doctor out there.

Yeah, except for actually going to medical school, having true credibility and being heavily favored by the majority of insurance companies.

I'm not saying that chiros can't offer up some relief but I think WAY too many people depend upon them like a crack addict does a dealer. My boss has a "family plan" with his where he, his wife and their 4 kids go. I find it to be hysterical because none of them feel normal unless they go for their weekly treatments. His kids are teens who are 100% healthy but now feel like they have to go to a chiro to feel good. :roll:

If you get relief from one, then more power to you but most want to reel you in so that they can convince you that you need to come see them for the rest of your life to feel good. I have a ruptured disc in my neck right now and my boss told his chiro about me. Of course, the chiro is now telling me I'm stupid for having surgery next month and that he can fix me right up. Though, two different neurosurgeons have told me that I have to have surgery. I think I'll opt to take their advice given their medical background.

If you have a sore back from something like poor posture, then go see a chiro but if you have anything serious (something affecting nerves), do yourself a favor and see a real doctor. Just my $.02

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: eits
chiropractors are just like any other doctor out there.

Yeah, except for actually going to medical school, having true credibility and being heavily favored by the majority of insurance companies.

I'm not saying that chiros can't offer up some relief but I think WAY too many people depend upon them like a crack addict does a dealer. My boss has a "family plan" with his where he, his wife and their 4 kids go. I find it to be hysterical because none of them feel normal unless they go for their weekly treatments. His kids are teens who are 100% healthy but now feel like they have to go to a chiro to feel good. :roll:

If you get relief from one, then more power to you but most want to reel you in so that they can convince you that you need to come see them for the rest of your life to feel good. I have a ruptured disc in my neck right now and my boss told his chiro about me. Of course, the chiro is now telling me I'm stupid for having surgery next month and that he can fix me right up. Though, two different neurosurgeons have told me that I have to have surgery. I think I'll opt to take their advice given their medical background.

If you have a sore back from something like poor posture, then go see a chiro but if you have anything serious (something affecting nerves), do yourself a favor and see a real doctor. Just my $.02

sounds like a cult/brainwashing.

 

[49erinnc]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

sounds like a cult/brainwashing.

Actually, I wouldn't say there's a ton of contrast between that and some chiros. Except, instead of brainwashing you, chiros just pop your back (which obviously feels good) and then you feel like you need it all the time to feel "right." Silly considering how so many back/neck problems are simply a result of really poor posture, sleeping habits and crappy mattresses/pillows.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: moshquerade

sounds like a cult/brainwashing.

Actually, I wouldn't say there's a ton of contrast between that and some chiros. Except, instead of brainwashing you, chiros just pop your back (which obviously feels good) and then you feel like you need it all the time to feel "right." Silly considering how so many back/neck problems are simply a result of really poor posture, sleeping habits and crappy mattresses/pillows.

and lack of exercise.

 

[Pacemaker]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: eits
chiropractors are just like any other doctor out there.

Yeah, except for actually going to medical school, having true credibility and being heavily favored by the majority of insurance companies.

I'm not saying that chiros can't offer up some relief but I think WAY too many people depend upon them like a crack addict does a dealer. My boss has a "family plan" with his where he, his wife and their 4 kids go. I find it to be hysterical because none of them feel normal unless they go for their weekly treatments. His kids are teens who are 100% healthy but now feel like they have to go to a chiro to feel good. :roll:

If you get relief from one, then more power to you but most want to reel you in so that they can convince you that you need to come see them for the rest of your life to feel good. I have a ruptured disc in my neck right now and my boss told his chiro about me. Of course, the chiro is now telling me I'm stupid for having surgery next month and that he can fix me right up. Though, two different neurosurgeons have told me that I have to have surgery. I think I'll opt to take their advice given their medical background.

If you have a sore back from something like poor posture, then go see a chiro but if you have anything serious (something affecting nerves), do yourself a favor and see a real doctor. Just my $.02

sounds like a cult/brainwashing.

Maybe I have been lucky but the Chiropractor in my old town was great. He wouldn't touch you before giving you an X-ray and making sure what the problem was. If i went in to have something fixed I left with it fixed and as long as I followed his instructions for the next few days it stayed fixed (usually he would say something like, "try not to look left for a few hours it may pop it back"). He was actually and MD first and then went to school to be a chiro, my guess would be that this was the difference.

Also, he would tell you if you needed an MD not a Chiro. My dad really messed up his back and he went to the same chrio and the chiro told my dad, "go to a hospital" after he X-rayed him. It comes down to the person. I see Chiropractors and Automotive Mechanics in the same light, some are bad and it makes people think they are all crooks.

 

[lokiju]

I find it interesting how so many people are against chiropractors but as soon as a medical doctor recommends a chiropractor they all seem to suddenly think it's OK.

Even my fiancee does this (shes an x-ray tech)

From my own personal experience all chiropractors are not equal just as all medical doctors aren't so "shop" around and find one that is known to be good, it can help but isn't a sure thing, just don't let them try and convince you to keep going since they all will pretty much do that.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

so do you work for a chiropractor or a related-type office?

i'm going to be one.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: jhayx7

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

so do you work for a chiropractor or a related-type office?

I think he is a med student.

Cheers,
Aquaman

Nah, Holiday Inn Express.

HAHAHA :thumbsup: that was funny

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: eits
chiropractors are just like any other doctor out there.

Yeah, except for actually going to medical school, having true credibility and being heavily favored by the majority of insurance companies.

I'm not saying that chiros can't offer up some relief but I think WAY too many people depend upon them like a crack addict does a dealer. My boss has a "family plan" with his where he, his wife and their 4 kids go. I find it to be hysterical because none of them feel normal unless they go for their weekly treatments. His kids are teens who are 100% healthy but now feel like they have to go to a chiro to feel good. :roll:

If you get relief from one, then more power to you but most want to reel you in so that they can convince you that you need to come see them for the rest of your life to feel good. I have a ruptured disc in my neck right now and my boss told his chiro about me. Of course, the chiro is now telling me I'm stupid for having surgery next month and that he can fix me right up. Though, two different neurosurgeons have told me that I have to have surgery. I think I'll opt to take their advice given their medical background.

If you have a sore back from something like poor posture, then go see a chiro but if you have anything serious (something affecting nerves), do yourself a favor and see a real doctor. Just my $.02

That's a pretty out of context quote.

Do you work for CNN?

 

[azoomee]

Have heard mixed reviews about them. They do lots of things to you just after looking at an xray. One Chiropractor around me advertises that they can cure infections and make you healthier just by manipulating your joints/back.

I'm sure not all chiropractors are the same, but just be careful -- they're not MDs.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: EPCrew

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: EPCrew

Originally posted by: moshquerade
once you start going they will keep you coming back.

This is exactly the reason why you shouldn't go even for the first time. He/she will make you feel better by cracking your back and you'll feel the need to return to him every time your back starts to bother you again. perhaps a neurologist would be more in order.

what would a neurologist be able to tell you that a chiropractor couldn't?

Everyone that I know of that has gone to a chiropractor hasn't learned anything but how to go and get their backs cracked. and then they go back...

My father had back problems over the last few years and had back surgery last year to fix a herniated disc. when he wasn't able to regain his leg strength his neurologist recommended a neck MRI and then a head MRI and then found this... http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1846957&enterthread=y

I'm far from being a doctor myself, but i'd rather go get some tests done rather than have a chiropractor give me temporary relief.

the only times chiropractors offer temprary relief is when the problem the patient is having is chronic or permanent (i.e. degererative disc disease, rheumatoid arthritis, fused vertebrae, etc). aside from that, the chiropractor's job is to reallign the body in order to restore the proper neural integrity and tone to the body.

sorry to hear about your dad's tumor. however, that doesn't seem related to having a herniated disc. it doesn't seem related, even, to not having regained strength in his leg. it has more to do with numbness and dizziness. if he had a loss of strength in his entire left or right side, THAT'D be a significant finding for a tumor. the corticospinal (aka pyramidal) tract is the nerve tract from the brain to the body that tells it to move. it's the voluntary movement tract, so to speak. the only likely way that a tumor would cause weakness in his leg is if there were a tumor in his spinal cord around the l2-l5 level on the side of weakness.... not in his brain.

either way, thank God someone found it! a lot of times, patients go into clinics complaining of something and whenever the doctors order tests for it, they discover something else that's MUCH more significant/dangerous. it's happened with every one of my professors... for example, patients will come in with back pain, so they do a bunch of orthopedic tests and then take an x-ray to help figure out EXACTLY what's wrong and they discover that the patient has a tumor or has plaquing of the abdominal aorta (it's extremely dangerous if you adjust on a patient with abdominal aorta plaquing because you could cause it to rupture and they'll die right there on your table).

your dad's chiropractor should have ordered an mri to make sure that the disc was actually herniated. you can't tell herniations on x-ray. if your dad had the tumor while he was getting treatment from the chiropractor, the tumor would be on his films. if they are, sue the bastard. he should have referred your dad to a specialist right away.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: eits
chiropractors are just like any other doctor out there.

Yeah, except for actually going to medical school, having true credibility and being heavily favored by the majority of insurance companies.

I'm not saying that chiros can't offer up some relief but I think WAY too many people depend upon them like a crack addict does a dealer. My boss has a "family plan" with his where he, his wife and their 4 kids go. I find it to be hysterical because none of them feel normal unless they go for their weekly treatments. His kids are teens who are 100% healthy but now feel like they have to go to a chiro to feel good. :roll:

If you get relief from one, then more power to you but most want to reel you in so that they can convince you that you need to come see them for the rest of your life to feel good. I have a ruptured disc in my neck right now and my boss told his chiro about me. Of course, the chiro is now telling me I'm stupid for having surgery next month and that he can fix me right up. Though, two different neurosurgeons have told me that I have to have surgery. I think I'll opt to take their advice given their medical background.

If you have a sore back from something like poor posture, then go see a chiro but if you have anything serious (something affecting nerves), do yourself a favor and see a real doctor. Just my $.02

chiropractors go through med school... except it's not called med school... it's called chiropractic school... which is the same thing. pretty lame, in my opinion. in my opinion, you call it what it is.

in fact, chiropractors have to go through 5 years of med school as opposed.

if you have something serious that affects nerves, you should see a chiropractor to restore the proper nerve tone. if it's more serious than that and the doctor can't do anything about it, the doctor should refer out to a surgeon.

you should NEVER get surgery when it's not absolutely 100% necessary. it only causes chronic degenerative problems in other areas.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: moshquerade

sounds like a cult/brainwashing.

Actually, I wouldn't say there's a ton of contrast between that and some chiros. Except, instead of brainwashing you, chiros just pop your back (which obviously feels good) and then you feel like you need it all the time to feel "right." Silly considering how so many back/neck problems are simply a result of really poor posture, sleeping habits and crappy mattresses/pillows.

and lack of exercise.

true.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: eits
chiropractors are just like any other doctor out there.

Yeah, except for actually going to medical school, having true credibility and being heavily favored by the majority of insurance companies.

I'm not saying that chiros can't offer up some relief but I think WAY too many people depend upon them like a crack addict does a dealer. My boss has a "family plan" with his where he, his wife and their 4 kids go. I find it to be hysterical because none of them feel normal unless they go for their weekly treatments. His kids are teens who are 100% healthy but now feel like they have to go to a chiro to feel good. :roll:

If you get relief from one, then more power to you but most want to reel you in so that they can convince you that you need to come see them for the rest of your life to feel good. I have a ruptured disc in my neck right now and my boss told his chiro about me. Of course, the chiro is now telling me I'm stupid for having surgery next month and that he can fix me right up. Though, two different neurosurgeons have told me that I have to have surgery. I think I'll opt to take their advice given their medical background.

If you have a sore back from something like poor posture, then go see a chiro but if you have anything serious (something affecting nerves), do yourself a favor and see a real doctor. Just my $.02

sounds like a cult/brainwashing.

Maybe I have been lucky but the Chiropractor in my old town was great. He wouldn't touch you before giving you an X-ray and making sure what the problem was. If i went in to have something fixed I left with it fixed and as long as I followed his instructions for the next few days it stayed fixed (usually he would say something like, "try not to look left for a few hours it may pop it back"). He was actually and MD first and then went to school to be a chiro, my guess would be that this was the difference.

Also, he would tell you if you needed an MD not a Chiro. My dad really messed up his back and he went to the same chrio and the chiro told my dad, "go to a hospital" after he X-rayed him. It comes down to the person. I see Chiropractors and Automotive Mechanics in the same light, some are bad and it makes people think they are all crooks.

true.

most of the time, people have to keep coming back for their adjustment because they don't follow directions. they continue their poor posture, they continue not exercising, they continue eating poorly, they continue trying to crack their own backs.... all that stuff will just make them have to come right back into the office and have the treatment plan start all over again.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: azoomee
Have heard mixed reviews about them. They do lots of things to you just after looking at an xray. One Chiropractor around me advertises that they can cure infections and make you healthier just by manipulating your joints/back.

I'm sure not all chiropractors are the same, but just be careful -- they're not MDs.

stay away from any chiropractor that says he can cure stuff. chiropractors don't cure anything... the body (or, sometimes, certain medications) cures the body.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: jhayx7

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

so do you work for a chiropractor or a related-type office?

I think he is a med student.

Cheers,
Aquaman

Nah, Holiday Inn Express.

HAHAHA :thumbsup: that was funny

Hey....... what scholl are you going to? My friend went to DD Palmer in Berkley.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: jhayx7

Originally posted by: Aquaman

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits
9/10 headaches are cervicogenic headaches (come from having a bad neck allignment). bad, recurring tension headaches are most-likely due to this tiny newly discovered ligament that was found in people that attaches between the anterior surface of the posterior arch of your c1 vertebra to the dura of your central nervous system. when your c1 is out of allignment, it tugs on that ligament which tugs on the dura mater (the outer membrane that covers the brain) and causes differences in intercranial pressure and causes lots of pain. once that gets adjusted, the headache goes away almost instantly.... certainly beats the hell out of taking nsaids and increasing the risk of ending up in the emergency room when you're in your 40s or 50s because of gastric bleeding due to nsaid overuse.

so do you work for a chiropractor or a related-type office?

I think he is a med student.

Cheers,
Aquaman

Nah, Holiday Inn Express.

HAHAHA :thumbsup: that was funny

Hey....... what scholl are you going to? My friend went to DD Palmer in Berkley.

Cheers,
Aquaman

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