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so, how many of you have considered suicide?

Multiple times, and I'm only 17. Sucks to be manic depressive... Though each time I've come to some rational thought that sways me to not commit the act.
 


<< Multiple times, and I'm only 17. Sucks to be manic depressive... Though each time I've come to some rational thought that sways me to not commit the act. >>

Get drugs man, sometimes that's what you need against it 😉
 
lol, i like the "never (but really i have)" option 😀

yes, i've considered it... i believe in considering all options before making a decision.
 
hmm.. not sure how to answer this... have i thought about what it would be liek to commit suicide, or thought of ways to commit suicide yes.. on occasion when things get bad...

however i've never actually considered it. i love my life, family, freinds, and car way to much.
 


<< lol, i like the "never (but really i have)" option 😀

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i put it there for those people who like to think they haven't, or forgotten they had, to stir their memory and get an accurate poll 😉
 


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<< Multiple times, and I'm only 17. Sucks to be manic depressive... Though each time I've come to some rational thought that sways me to not commit the act. >>

Get drugs man, sometimes that's what you need against it 😉 >>



I have some convictions about drugs intended to alter one's mental state.. basically, I just don't get down like that. If I was so created to have such a type of personality or mental state, then it's mine to live with. If I would one day become depressed enough and not able to find a way out and indeed did commit suicide, then so be it. It's my flaw and I'm happy to have it.
 
Who knows. But it'd never happen since that would just be depriving the world of such a highly intelligent, superior being such as myself.

:Q
 
I've never actualy thought about commiting suicide but on occasion I have thought about what commiting suicide would be like and the affect that it would have and what would be after it


cheers😎
Mike
 
I have some convictions about drugs intended to alter one's mental state.. basically, I just don't get down like that. If I was so created to have such a type of personality or mental state, then it's mine to live with. If I would one day become depressed enough and not able to find a way out and indeed did commit suicide, then so be it. It's my flaw and I'm happy to have it.

1.) i wouldn't be happy to have such a flaw, and i have doubts as to whether you really are.
2.) if you were born nearsighted, would you refuse to wear glasses?
 


<< yes, i've considered it... i believe in considering all options before making a decision. >>



rotfl
"Hmm, do I want vanilla ice cream or rocky road, or would I like to commit suicide?"
 


<< Suicide is the only crime you can legally get away with. >>



Lol - and no matter how you do it, you don't have to worry about the mess you leave behind!

j/k 😀
 


<< I have some convictions about drugs intended to alter one's mental state.. basically, I just don't get down like that. If I was so created to have such a type of personality or mental state, then it's mine to live with. If I would one day become depressed enough and not able to find a way out and indeed did commit suicide, then so be it. It's my flaw and I'm happy to have it. >>

Like gopunk mentioned would you live without glasses if nearsighted? What if your legs didn't work ? Would you get a wheelchair or drag yourself along the ground living with the problem? Do you take tylenol for headaches? Do you ever go to the doctor or dentist? Will your wife go to the doctor when she is having children?

What these drugs do is repair something that is wrong with you. Just like many people have physical problems in their eyes you may very well have a physical problem in your head (though it's mental it is caused by physical problems; this is why drugs fix it). This assumes that the depressions is not caused by the environment like your mom is dying, or something like that.
 
<< 1.) i wouldn't be happy to have such a flaw, and i have doubts as to whether you really are. >>

I would say that I've done some of my best thinking in such a depressive mood, I've also written some of my favorite works in those times. Although it may be very painful at times, some good things, or at least things that mean something to me, come out of it.

<< 2.) if you were born nearsighted, would you refuse to wear glasses? >>
I find this to be a very different issue. I consider my mind to be something vastly different from my body, and something that shouldn't be altered or 'fixed' just like some physical set backs. To Skoorb as well, I understand both your rational arguements, and surely they make sense. It's just a conviction of mine.
 


<< I find this to be a very different issue. I consider my mind to be something vastly different from my body, and something that shouldn't be altered or 'fixed' just like some physical set backs. >>

Well you're wrong - your thoughts and mind are caused by chemical reactions in your head. Synapses and neuro connections and all that. Many forms of depression are caused by a problem in this area; drugs simply fix it. The mind is not an abstract thing just hanging around you.
 
<< 2.) if you were born nearsighted, would you refuse to wear glasses? >>
I find this to be a very different issue. I consider my mind to be something vastly different from my body, and something that shouldn't be altered or 'fixed' just like some physical set backs.

your mind is part of your body, and one of the most important parts at that. it is like saying you will get your car detailed and the windows washed, but you refuse to fix the engine. people get brain tumors that make them go insane. should these tumors not be removed?

of course, some medications are being prescribed too frequently, but if you have a legitimate problem...
 

Well you're wrong - your thoughts and mind are caused by chemical reactions in your head. Synapses and neuro connections and all that. Many forms of depression are caused by a problem in this area; drugs simply fix it. The mind is not an abstract thing just hanging around you.

Agreed. Though is not love the same thing? Nothing more than chemical and electrical interactions in one's brain? Surely it is, but I'm sure you hold love in a higher regard than say.. one's ability for solving a mathematics problem even though each are basically the same physical type of action. How about if they devised a pill that would make you fall in love, or out of it. Would you be completely willing to take it just because it's easier that way?


your mind is part of your body, and one of the most important parts at that. it is like saying you will get your car detailed and the windows washed, but you refuse to fix the engine. people get brain tumors that make them go insane. should these tumors not be removed?

If they wish them to be removed of course, if not, well obviously not. Is it not one's choice really? Can you really say that their choice, or my choice, is wrong?
 


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Well you're wrong - your thoughts and mind are caused by chemical reactions in your head. Synapses and neuro connections and all that. Many forms of depression are caused by a problem in this area; drugs simply fix it. The mind is not an abstract thing just hanging around you.

Agreed. Though is not love the same thing? Nothing more than chemical and electrical interactions in one's brain? Surely it is, but I'm sure you hold love in a higher regard than say.. one's ability for solving a mathematics problem even though each are basically the same physical type of action. How about if they devised a pill that would make you fall in love, or out of it. Would you be completely willing to take it just because it's easier that way? >>



well, being either in or out of love, is generally not considered a disorder 😛

seems to me that you are reluctant to take the drugs because you think your mind is something special, like you have a soul or something that transcends the body.
 
If they wish them to be removed of course, if not, well obviously not. Is it not one's choice really? Can you really say that their choice, or my choice, is wrong?

of course, it's your choice. i'm not going to hold you down and cut your head open 😛

but yes, i would say your choice is wrong. it's not my life, so i don't really care, but i still think it's wrong. not morally wrong, but just a bad decision. sorry. it's not just you 😛 for example, if my friend broke her leg, and decided just to let it be instead of seeing a doctor, i would think her decision was wrong as well.
 
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