So how are you liking Win10 so far?

[RampantAndroid]

wtf. did all of that and didn't work. ugh..

I should have stuck with 7. fuck 10

What card do you have? Did you follow the above steps, being sure to reboot?

 

[cmdrdredd]

I'm liking it. It's a lot less cluttered to me since I can pin everything I use to the start menu and use the tiles to load up things like Steam and Firefox and remove them entirely from the taskbar. It's going to take some time to get used to but it's fast and responsive.

I really don't like that to use Cortana you have to upload your contacts, browser history etc to Microsoft. I understand they would need that stuff for Cortana to function as they intend but I don't want to send MS any of that stuff. I also don't care for their Advertising ID stuff either.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Downloaded version doesn't work, but the GFE tool and driver through Windows update does. And barely even has acceptable performance.

For anyone dealing with this like I was. Start in safe mode by going to msconfig and clicking the boot tab and selecting safe boot. Then uninstall nvidia drivers manually in safe mode. For reassurance you can also run driver fusion to force all nvidia registry entries and directories to be deleted. Then go back into msconfig and turn off safe mode and restart. Nvidia drivers will now install properly when downloaded from nvidia. It isn't windows 10 that is causing problems, it's the windows 7 or 8 drivers that are there and causing a stoppage.

I've read nothing to suggest that updates will be pushed for 3rd party drivers with windows update. Only that it installs a default version when none is detected like all windows versions did previously. I might be wrong but I don't think it'll push Nvidia updates on its own.

 

[SparkyJJO]

But it is more fun to blame Microsoft.

 

[twjr]

LMMFAO at that screen grab and your comment to it.

Yeah, I had that on my laptop when trying to upgrade. I was like WTF is this bull$hit. WTF happened? PC Load Letter, WTF does that mean. LOL.

anyways, just delete the contents of "\windows\softwaredistribution\download" folder, reboot and retry.

I have that error on my tablet and was just stumped. Thanks for the tip. I will give it a go and see what happens.

 

[twjr]

I've installed Win10 on my laptop and my initial impressions are mixed.

Pros:

It seem fast, stable and the upgrade on my laptop went smoothly. But really there aren't a huge number of noticeable pros over Win 8.

Cons:

Why can't I uninstall all the 'Metro' Apps in one fell swoop. You can run the Powershell commands as in Win8 but that also kills Store and still leaves some programs in the All Apps menu which can't be deleted. Some people don't wan't to use any of those Apps.

On the All Apps. I find that to be a regression from Win8. There isn't enough room for that part of the menu and it isn't resizeable. Apps are all hidden in folders. Within Win8 programs were much more visible and the current solution in Win10 doesn't reduce the number of clicks to open something.

Why can't we select multiple tiles any longer? It took me a lot longer to sort my tiles post upgrade because I couldn't select the tiles in groups. Obvious regression from Win8. Also there is no longer a customise option for the 'Start Screen' as there was in Win 8.

I personally find the Start Menu to be a Frankenstein's Monster of Win7 + Win8 with none of the best parts of either. Too constrained when compared to either predecessor.

Settings are a dog too. With Win8 I could keep to the vanilla control panel but Win10 forces me to use the Metro themed settings and they are just too limited to do everything and are missing options that were present in previous versions.

Overall I am underwhelmed. I am sure it will improve with time but some of the failings are directly regressive when compared to either Win8 or 7.

Edit: One final whinge. On the styling both myself and my girlfriend find the icons to be very flat and makes it look very retro, but heading towards dated. In other areas the retro look works though.

 

[cmdrdredd]

On the All Apps. I find that to be a regression from Win8. There isn't enough room for that part of the menu and it isn't resizeable. Apps are all hidden in folders. Within Win8 programs were much more visible and the current solution in Win10 doesn't reduce the number of clicks to open something.


Settings are a dog too. With Win8 I could keep to the vanilla control panel but Win10 forces me to use the Metro themed settings and they are just too limited to do everything and are missing options that were present in previous versions.

1) Clicking and looking for apps is outdated. Just press the windows key and type the name of what you're looking for. Done. You could also click the start menu and then type. Either way it's multiple times faster to just type the name of your program or app.

2) Press the windows key + X to bring up the menu where you can go to the control panels by clicking it. Alternatively right click the start button to bring the menu up. The old control panel items are all right there. The settings button is for those who aren't computer savvy and made extremely simple. There's nothing preventing a power user from loading up the control panel.

 

[twjr]

1) Clicking and looking for apps is outdated. Just press the windows key and type the name of what you're looking for. Done. You could also click the start menu and then type. Either way it's multiple times faster to just type the name of your program or app.

True with a keyboard. But I feel on a touch device the method in Win10 is not going to be as easy. Though I haven't yet managed to get Win 10 installed on my tablet so I can't say first hand.

Also I would bet that most people still don't search for things they want to open. The way it is handled in 10 is currently not as easy as 7 or 8 was, and when you are targeting the lowest common denominator you want things to be easy.

2) Press the windows key + X to bring up the menu where you can go to the control panels by clicking it. Alternatively right click the start button to bring the menu up. The old control panel items are all right there. The settings button is for those who aren't computer savvy and made extremely simple. There's nothing preventing a power user from loading up the control panel.

Of course you can go into the traditional control panel. But some things are missing now. Personalisation is non-existent. Jump list customisation is non-existent. Save locations under the new storage settings conflict with locations defined in user folders. Metro apps aren't found and traditional Programs and Features. At the moment there is a lack of coherency. Some things can only be handled through the new Settings App. It would be OK if everything could be handled through the regular Control Panel but that just isn't the case. I can't recall the last time I used the metro settings in Win8 but I've already spent too much time in it in 10.

 

[cmdrdredd]

On a touch device you could tap the search bar and type away with the on screen keyboard couldn't you? That's always going to be the easiest way to access a program I think.

I dunno what you're doing specifically but I've spent exactly zero time in the touch interface of Windows 10 and I don't feel the need to ever mess with it's settings on a desktop system. Everything I had set in Windows 8.1 was saved over to 10 so I didn't have do change anything except the new privacy stuff to use Cortana.


As far as features I'm not a fan of who thought it was a good idea to send or receive updates over the internet from other users? That seems like a good way to get infected files doesn't it? Not only that but doesn't uploading files count against a data cap?

 

[destrekor]

The UI itself is odd in places, Explorer still doesn't have tabs STILL, and Pin to taskbar (not Start or quick access) is odd and requires to show on a jump list before you can pin it. The merging of Modern UI and Windows works well though, MS is way closer than 8.1. Consistency still needs work though.

Ugh... I cannot wait until Explorer has native tabs. I don't like the add-on tools, I want a native tabbed file explorer! How hard is it Microsoft? I mean, they finally acknowledged how awesome virtual desktops are, it kind of seems that tabbed Explorer should have been in the same group of revelations.

 

[spdfreak]

I upgraded the old Vostro 1000 and everything went pretty smooth. It did get stuck at 2% during the checking for updates but after a few hours moved on and finished. For the people who are having trouble getting a video driver installed on old hardware, you might need to do what I did and install a legacy driver in compatibility mode- I used the vista driver for the ATI 1150 express in compatibility mode and it installed fine.
All in all, it is a nice upgrade- definitely snappier than 8.1 and more useable on an old laptop.

 

[Traxan]

I skipped the Cortana setup step, but what the actual hell?

Probably an import/export law issue. Cortana is not actually on your machine, it runs in a Microsoft data center. The only thing on your PC is the front-end to do the query. So it's likely a border thing.

 

[Traxan]

So guys, I need to know, does Win10 support SoundBlaster X-Fi? A beta I tried did not and that was a show stopper for me.

 

[postmortemIA]

So guys, I need to know, does Win10 support SoundBlaster X-Fi? A beta I tried did not and that was a show stopper for me.

Driver coming in October 2015
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=126331

Have you tried unofficial package "SB X-Fi Series Support Pack 3.4"?

 

[davmat787]

I skipped the Cortana setup step, but what the actual hell?

Microsoft is tailoring Cortana for each country and region. So for Canada, the country of complaint that you replied too, she will probably say "eh" after most sentences and want you to take her out for Poutine a lot.

Seriously there is a lot of work to make it work correctly with all the different dialects and differences each country and region have, even if they are all English speaking. Microsoft wants to get it right in regards to those differences, that is be country and dialect aware instead of agnostic.

 

[DustinBrowder]

I'm only going to be getting win10 for DX12 and the new file explorer, otherwise windows7 is the best!

If they allowed DX12 on win7, I'll just use that OS and probably never switch.

I absolutely hate that there are still "apps" in windows10, the start menu is clustered with the useless "Apps" rather than real programs.

I hate that there is a new "settings" menu's for various things and its completely garbage, the control panel has been completely destroyed and you can barely do anything from it, everything goes through some retarded, stupid "Settings" menu that is designed for mobile phones, NOT desktop users.

 

[flexy]

Surely an exaggeration. Start->Settings->Updates and Security?

What did you try during the first 29:47?

I am using classic shell. If I use the "normal" Start ...there is no "Settings", neither can I find "Windows update" searching (which of course was the case before 10). Before 10 all I did was type "upd" in the search box.

BUT..I admit this can be since classic shell is not 100% compatible yet.

 

[flexy]

Lemme guess, you're one of those "WinXP 4 lyfe!" guys aren't you? Just admit it...

No. But after 7 all I saw from MS was crap.

 

[flexy]

No, I also cannot see windows update clicking on the "lens" symbol and searching. Nada. The only way to get to Windows Update is when I click on the "new notifications" on the taskbar on the right, bottom.

But GOOD NEWS. I mean I cannot get to Windows Update, but at least my PC now turned into a tabloid. THIS is what I see when I click on the "home" button.... why worry about Windows update when someone was groped and someone else is in coma! Get your priorities straight, people!

 

[TeknoBug]

Microsoft is tailoring Cortana for each country and region. So for Canada, the country of complaint that you replied too, she will probably say "eh" after most sentences and want you to take her out for Poutine a lot.

Seriously there is a lot of work to make it work correctly with all the different dialects and differences each country and region have, even if they are all English speaking. Microsoft wants to get it right in regards to those differences, that is be country and dialect aware instead of agnostic.

lol this made me laugh.

 

[TeknoBug]

For anyone dealing with this like I was. Start in safe mode by going to msconfig and clicking the boot tab and selecting safe boot. Then uninstall nvidia drivers manually in safe mode. For reassurance you can also run driver fusion to force all nvidia registry entries and directories to be deleted. Then go back into msconfig and turn off safe mode and restart. Nvidia drivers will now install properly when downloaded from nvidia. It isn't windows 10 that is causing problems, it's the windows 7 or 8 drivers that are there and causing a stoppage.

I've read nothing to suggest that updates will be pushed for 3rd party drivers with windows update. Only that it installs a default version when none is detected like all windows versions did previously. I might be wrong but I don't think it'll push Nvidia updates on its own.

It still happened when I had the driver completely uninstalled via safemode and DDU, GFE worked and WU downloaded the same driver too but I went and disabled driver updates from WU after I discovered that, I redownloaded 353.62 from Nvidia again later that day and did custom install and it worked- I suppose express might've been the problem.

 

[twjr]

On a touch device you could tap the search bar and type away with the on screen keyboard couldn't you? That's always going to be the easiest way to access a program I think.

Until Microsoft puts out a swipe keyboard like Android that is still going to be slower than pushing a hardware Start button and going into the Start menu for me. Windows' touch keyboard is OK but it is miles slower than the real thing or Android's swipe one.

I dunno what you're doing specifically but I've spent exactly zero time in the touch interface of Windows 10 and I don't feel the need to ever mess with it's settings on a desktop system. Everything I had set in Windows 8.1 was saved over to 10 so I didn't have do change anything except the new privacy stuff to use Cortana.

The most noticeable thing for me was the need to change my desktop background. That was reset to solid black and all the personalisation options in 10 are within the new settings. If you want to turn off P2P/torrenting of Windows Updates you will need to go into the new settings as there are no Windows Update options in the normal CP.

I suppose part of it was that I had very little trust in Microsoft's default settings (too much data sent back to MS) so I took it upon myself to see what was set as default within the new settings compared to normal CP.

 

[pandrig]

For the most part i like windows 10 so far.
the only issues i have had are:
1) couldn't install the new Nvidia drivers. I just disabled the device in device manager, rebooted the computer and installed it and everything worked fine after that.
2)on the second day after install, i have a weird cold boot issue. on a cold boot, when it boots up and gets to the wallpaper that shows time and date, it flashes that for a second and shows the pc login page. the problem is that it will not allow me to log in because the keyboard will not work. i have tried many different usb keyboards but none work. the only way i was able to get in, was i hit the reset and the pc acts normally after that.

 

[tidy]

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[Makaveli]

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Not sure what is going on with your computer boss but when I click on start and type in windows update I see this.