So Dragon Age 2 is really bad on the PC and consolized?

[NYHoustonman]

Yeah I think a lot of people who don't think it's a big deal are probably only 10 hours into the game or something.

Having just finished the game - 58 hours, fwiw - this is probably my biggest problem, and it's a shame (as I've said before) as it could have been fixed with a few more months development time. The game could have been excellent, or at least more than 'good.'

However, a lot of the bashing that goes on regarding this and other shortfalls are exaggerated IMO. It sucks, yes, but it never *really* took me out of the game. I was too busy killing shit.

 

[martensite]

I have been playing for a few hours, and while its more dumbed down than DAO, its not a bad game. I quite enjoy it, especially the graphical improvements and companion AI.

BTW, I need some help: I finished all the quests in Kirkwall, the only thing remaining is to hand over the 50 gold and maps to Bartrand for the Deep Roads trip. But I don't have 50 gold...only 43 something...spent the rest on er..armor and stuff.

So now a shady character in Lowtown offers to loan me $$ in exchange for a 200% return on his 'investment'.

Should I take his cash? I'd prefer not to, but I can't see how I'd raise the remaining 7 gold...no quests left. I've already refused him once.

 

[Dumac]

01/10 - What is this shit?
02/10 - Did they even finish this?
03/10 - Ugh, that is bad, I mean, I can tell where they were going but they missed the mark.
04/10 - The game is decent, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
05/10 - Average game, works ok, has potential but there are plenty of better games out there.
06/10 - Good game with flaws
07/10 - Good game, enjoyed it.
08/10 - Great game, lots to enjoy, any cons were greatly outweighed by the pros.
09/10 - Great game, nearing perfection, will probably spend many hours on it, a great example of it's specific genre.
10/10 - Perfect game, cons are either insignificant or were patched out. Game will be an instant classic and people will be playing it for at least a decade. Will cross generational gaps. Will be used as the bar by which all games to follow will be measured against.

That is how I see ratings....

DA2 seems liek it fits a 5/10 to me definitely not a 7 or 8 in my book by your scale

 

[Mem]

I have been playing for a few hours, and while its more dumbed down than DAO, its not a bad game. I quite enjoy it, especially the graphical improvements and companion AI.

BTW, I need some help: I finished all the quests in Kirkwall, the only thing remaining is to hand over the 50 gold and maps to Bartrand for the Deep Roads trip. But I don't have 50 gold...only 43 something...spent the rest on er..armor and stuff.

So now a shady character in Lowtown offers to loan me $$ in exchange for a 200% return on his 'investment'.

Should I take his cash? I'd prefer not to, but I can't see how I'd raise the remaining 7 gold...no quests left. I've already refused him once.

I had like 97 gold before I did Deep Roads,I did not bother with the shady dwarf.

Double check you did all possible quests including night ones and out of town,did you do all the mining ones with your mining partner(he is in High Town near the merchants)

 

[lozina]

To the guy suggesting the repeated levels aren't noticeable, how far in are you? I'm 41 hours in (still in Act 2) and I've run through the same dungeons OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. I believe the last time I came across a unique dungeon layout was the Deep Roads. That was about 12 in-game hours ago. In those last 12 hours, and the previous 12 hours before that, there haven't been ANY new dungeons. Just re-textured levels that share an identical layout, functionally they are the same.

The game has unbelievably serious issues which will prevent me from re-playing it the way I did with DA:O.

I haven't gotten to the deep roads yet, I'm just about finishing up in Kirkwall. I play slow :\

 

[martensite]

I had like 97 gold before I did Deep Roads,I did not bother with the shady dwarf.

Double check you did all possible quests including night ones and out of town,did you do all the mining ones with your mining partner(he is in High Town near the merchants)

Thanks, seems I had missed a couple of secondary quests.. did those just now and got some more cash.

I also roamed the city at night killing several gangs and looting the corpses. Sold off my extra equipment and finally managed to raise enough money.

Sad thing is, I had something like 65 gold a while ago, but I wasted a lot of it.. lol.
Anyway, off to the Deep Roads now .

 

[Jeeebus]

Anyway, off to the Deep Roads now .

Might want to take care who you bring with you. Just sayin...

 

[RandomSanity]

Since everything has been discussed to death, I will just briefly add my opinion to confirm these.

I did enjoy this game quite thoroughly, although it is extremely console oriented, the dialogue is crude and the story is less than spectacular the voice acting is excellent and the game was engrossing so I would have to give it a 6.5/10.

What ruined this game the most for me was, as others have pointed out the fact that the same areas were used over and over again. It really bugs me when I enter an area which is very important to the story-line, complete a quest and defeat a boss to my immense satisfaction and then later in the game, hundreds of miles away I enter another area only to find it is an exact clone of the earlier area. This greatly undermines the stories believability and demeans your accomplishments in prior areas.

Secondly, this was no Dragon Age Origins. If this were a stand alone game I would probably rate it much higher. However, this was a sequel and in my opinion developers should strive to improve upon their games. Bioware did not attempt to improve upon DAO and instead simply removed many of the features that were not quite perfect in the first game instead of attempting to improve them.

 

[StinkyPinky]

The most funny part for me (and its a very minor sub quest so I wont bother with a spoiler tag) was a quest for Anders where you had to go to the "sewers" to get some crystals. The sewers was just the routine undercity map. Nothing changed. No water, no sewage or anything. Shit, it had camp fires still burning and the design was nothing like any sewer I've ever seen (raised areas, square rooms, stairs everywhere, no pipes or drainage of any sort.)

I just laughed when I saw it. Just lazy.

 

[Alienwho]

The most funny part for me (and its a very minor sub quest so I wont bother with a spoiler tag) was a quest for Anders where you had to go to the "sewers" to get some crystals. The sewers was just the routine undercity map. Nothing changed. No water, no sewage or anything. Shit, it had camp fires still burning and the design was nothing like any sewer I've ever seen (raised areas, square rooms, stairs everywhere, no pipes or drainage of any sort.)

I just laughed when I saw it. Just lazy.

I'll continue with the spoilers.

No kidding on what you said above. Then Anders wants to separate himself from justice. I go through the hassle doing everything for him and then nothing happens? The whole game just reeks of being rushed. They try to pull off all these epic decisions and storylines but every single one falls way way way short. Here's some examples: Anders separating justice, Hawks mom dying from some no name douche, I slaughtered the entire tribe of dalish elves like it was nothing, I gave varric the stone that turned his brother crazy and nothing ever came from that.

 

[NoSoup4You]

^ Not cool, put tags on that stuff. The other guy had a harmless spoiler which wasn't even really a spolier at all. You, on the other hand...

 

[dighn]

The most funny part for me (and its a very minor sub quest so I wont bother with a spoiler tag) was a quest for Anders where you had to go to the "sewers" to get some crystals. The sewers was just the routine undercity map. Nothing changed. No water, no sewage or anything. Shit, it had camp fires still burning and the design was nothing like any sewer I've ever seen (raised areas, square rooms, stairs everywhere, no pipes or drainage of any sort.)

I just laughed when I saw it. Just lazy.

wow... Bioware, how low have you sunk...

 

[martensite]

Might want to take care who you bring with you. Just sayin...

Ah crap... I know now what you mean...impossible to kill the bastard with my current 2 Rogues + 2 Mages party
Gotta go back and replace a mage with my tank. I hate it when the game forces you to take a (useless) companion along eating up a precious slot.

I've developed tactics with 1 R (Hawke) + 1 Tank (Aveline) + 2 Mages (Merrill and Beth), now I am forced to replace either my offensive or defensive mage with another rogue whos only strength is ranged combat. WTF! Lousy game design.

 

[Dumac]

I'll continue with the spoilers.

Spoiler

No kidding on what you said above. Then Anders wants to separate himself from justice. I go through the hassle doing everything for him and then nothing happens? The whole game just reeks of being rushed. They try to pull off all these epic decisions and storylines but every single one falls way way way short. Here's some examples: Anders separating justice, Hawks mom dying from some no name douche, I slaughtered the entire tribe of dalish elves like it was nothing, I gave varric the stone that turned his brother crazy and nothing ever came from that.

Hey, man, be considerate.

 

[AstroManLuca]

The most funny part for me (and its a very minor sub quest so I wont bother with a spoiler tag) was a quest for Anders where you had to go to the "sewers" to get some crystals. The sewers was just the routine undercity map. Nothing changed. No water, no sewage or anything. Shit, it had camp fires still burning and the design was nothing like any sewer I've ever seen (raised areas, square rooms, stairs everywhere, no pipes or drainage of any sort.)

I just laughed when I saw it. Just lazy.

That sounds like the three different possible environments in Mass Effect 1. Except they fixed that in the sequel instead of regressing.

Really makes me worry about ME3. If it's anything like DA2, it'll suck.

 

[Mem]

That sounds like the three different possible environments in Mass Effect 1. Except they fixed that in the sequel instead of regressing.

Really makes me worry about ME3. If it's anything like DA2, it'll suck.

You forgot DA3 ,I really hope they listen to the constructive feedback from the people,the sewer quest was funny, I don't think I saw a single rat lol.

 

[Anneka]

Really hope it will come in our PCs soon (i am speaking about dragon age 3). I am sure they will learn from the mistakes in this one and add a few improvements here and there

 

[AstroManLuca]

You forgot DA3 ,I really hope they listen to the constructive feedback from the people,the sewer quest was funny, I don't think I saw a single rat lol.

I honestly don't care if DA3 sucks (it will), but I actually LIKE the Mass Effect games so if BioWare continues their spiral into mediocrity I would be really disappointed. The only hope is that they have their "A" team working on ME and their "B" team working on DA.

 

[jonks]

I honestly don't care if DA3 sucks (it will), but I actually LIKE the Mass Effect games so if BioWare continues their spiral into mediocrity I would be really disappointed. The only hope is that they have their "A" team working on ME and their "B" team working on DA.

Wouldn't worry too much about ME3, the dev time seems in line with how long it took to get me2 out the door. otoh, DA2 did not have anywhere near the dev time dao had, they'd been working on that one forever.

 

[Jeeebus]

Ah crap... I know now what you mean...impossible to kill the bastard with my current 2 Rogues + 2 Mages party
Gotta go back and replace a mage with my tank. I hate it when the game forces you to take a (useless) companion along eating up a precious slot.

I've developed tactics with 1 R (Hawke) + 1 Tank (Aveline) + 2 Mages (Merrill and Beth), now I am forced to replace either my offensive or defensive mage with another rogue whos only strength is ranged combat. WTF! Lousy game design.

Not actually what I'm talking about. For that fight, most people just lower the difficulty and move on. I'm talking about something that will annoy you after the fight.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Since when is Bioware trending downward? They make one merely decent game and people are up in arms. I'm not worried about ME3 at all.

 

[drebo]

Not actually what I'm talking about. For that fight, most people just lower the difficulty and move on. I'm talking about something that will annoy you after the fight.

Yep...I got WAAAY pissed off about that. There was no reason. And now I have to go through the game without it. Stupid stupid stupid. Stupid.

No point. It serves no purpose in the story (there is no story).

 

[Dumac]

*****SPOILERS IN THIS LINK*****

http://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=224

*****SPOILERS IN THIS LINK*****

I actually liked t his review

 

[Dumac]

Since when is Bioware trending downward? They make one merely decent game and people are up in arms. I'm not worried about ME3 at all.

I didn't care that much for ME2 (thought it was merely decent) and DA2 isn't even decent. It is mediocre at best.

 

[DangerAardvark]

I thought it would be funny to make my character get gay with Anders. It wasn't. It was terrifying.