I have a question beggerking. You keep bringing up the example of HT as software being fooled and thus not having to be based around hardware. If this is true then can you use HT on any old cpu Intel or AMD? Cause I have a AMD 64 that I would like to use HT on, if in fact all you have to do is fool the os into thinking there are more than one cpu.
BFG, stop making up new phrases to cover yourself. the correct term is stages!
and its not how HT works.
"A feature of certain Pentium 4 chips that makes one physical CPU appear as two logical CPUs. It uses additional registers to overlap two instruction streams in order to achieve an approximate 30% gain in performance. "
when a pipeline stall, data is pulled and set aside waiting, while new data enters the pipeline.
Data cannot only be skipped in a pipeline (aka your *section*)
really? so you are pulling nonsense to fool yourself now?
link me to an article that talks about your "driver path" then. If you can't, then be quiet from now on.
btw, your original quote is :
"Hyper-Threading doesn't add another physical CPU, it simply allows the utilization of unused pipeline locations from the existing CPU without duplicating an entire CPU core. "
its a complete nonsense. "pipeline locations"???
if you don't even know the term, how can you explain anything correctly?
It's sortof ironic, they claim it's a single card when it's being used by itself, but when you use two in sli, they claim it's quad SLI aka 4 gpu's 
EDIT: And your poll is messed up. It takse up 2 slots, doesn't have reasonable power consumption, and when you add a second one nvidia claims it's quad sli. And on your second one, it's NOT 2 GTX's slapped together, it's 2 MOBILE GTX's slapped together. Note the lower clock speeds. Although yes it's still SLI with it's limitations. Due to the errors in your poll I refuse to say it takes up a single slot (which it doesn't), or it's 2 GTX's (which it isn't)
EDIT: And your poll is messed up. It takse up 2 slots, doesn't have reasonable power consumption, and when you add a second one nvidia claims it's quad sli. And on your second one, it's NOT 2 GTX's slapped together, it's 2 MOBILE GTX's slapped together. Note the lower clock speeds. Although yes it's still SLI with it's limitations. Due to the errors in your poll I refuse to say it takes up a single slot (which it doesn't), or it's 2 GTX's (which it isn't)
Ok Beggerkind here you go Driver Path
This is a link to a web site describing how to mod or make drivers Quote:
If the people who write their own drivers use it to describe something are you going to discredit them also? Oh...and I still haven't heard anything from you on how I am supposed to fool my OS into thinking that my A64 can do hyperthreading since you seam to believe software can do anything you make it do irregardless of the hardware required to utilize certain software features.
This is a link to a web site describing how to mod or make drivers Quote:
If the people who write their own drivers use it to describe something are you going to discredit them also? Oh...and I still haven't heard anything from you on how I am supposed to fool my OS into thinking that my A64 can do hyperthreading since you seam to believe software can do anything you make it do irregardless of the hardware required to utilize certain software features.
again, its a name...
DATA PATH, on the other hand, is a technical term.
stop struggling. you won't find anything on "driver path" simply because it doesn't exist..
Ok I guess I am having a hard time understanding what the difference between the name driver path and the technical term is. Please enlighten me. I am also waiting for your explaintion on your software/hardware views.
How can you not see the second PCI-E connector? It's smack-bang right in the middle of the bottom card.
Addition: Seeing as some people refuse to see what is directly in front of them, here is a diagram. Excuse my horrible MSPaint-fu, I don't have Photoshop installed at the moment.
So you see, the 7950GX2 is as much a single-card solution as the sky is green and the grass is blue. It has two PCI-E connectors, uses two PCI-E slots, but simply uses the architecture of the main card as a sort of add-on/expansion card.
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Define PCI-E connector in the context you're using it in.
Because, I only see one of those PCB's capable of being inserted into a PCI-E slot. The other PCB is just along for the ride.
Now if you are talking about PCI-E power connectors, I only see one of those as well.
And finally, if you are talking about the small connector for the SLI bridge, I only see one of those, just to frost em.
Because, I only see one of those PCB's capable of being inserted into a PCI-E slot. The other PCB is just along for the ride.
Now if you are talking about PCI-E power connectors, I only see one of those as well.
And finally, if you are talking about the small connector for the SLI bridge, I only see one of those, just to frost em.
WTH? Did you even look at the link I just posted, or do you have an adblocker set to filter out anything even remotely anti-Nvidia?
Look at the big, red circle on the left hand side of the "bottom" (actually the top) PCB, there is a specialised PCI-E connector in the middle of it, that plugs into the specialised PCI-E slot hilighted at the top. :roll:
The main one of the cards (they are basically both Geforce GO 7900s) has the secondary function of being an add-on PCI-E slot for the second. It's simple logic, don't go all dense on me now.
I would be wasting less time talking to a wall than to a fanboy who ignores what he doesn't like to read. :roll:
You are excused, unsure why though since you quoted the diagram already, so what is your input on the diagram?
I already did, one of those two modified GO 7900s functions as an expansion board. :roll: Look at the diagram.
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Input on the diagram is:
That connector you circled. That is so the second GPU can communicate with the PCI-E bus. 8X per GPU. Add a second GX2 on a 32X PCI-E SLI board, and what do we have?
4 GPU's using 2 (TWO) PCI-E slots. I'm sorry dude, but there is no way you can call a single GX2 two video cards. When separated, can they work individually? No of course not. It is one unit and rather than making the card a mile long, they used 2PCB's. I don't see the problem here.
Yes, this is because the first board has the secondary function of being an expansion board just as I said. You can see, clearly as day, that it has a specialised 8x PCI-E connector on it, which connects to the specialised 8x PCI-E slot on the second card.
You have two modified GO 7900 graphics cards. One serving as an expansion board, the other serving as an add-on card.
No, four (oops, typo) PCI-E slots. Did you look at the diagram? A "single" 7950GX2 uses two PCI-E connectors. :roll:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html
Why don't you try asking a question that is not a logical fallacy, and that is actually relevent to the discussion? The number of PCI-E slots it uses on the motherboard is irrelevent, as one of those graphics cards functions as an expansion board as I have said for the nth time. :roll:
Two cards, two PCI-E slots as I have demonstrated with photographic evidence. Get over it already.
Edit: And typo again, pasted the wrong link. Been awake all night.
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EIGHT huh? So one 7950GX2 would use 4 then? How so?
First of all, where are the white papers that show and describe that connector being called a "specialized PCI-E connector". Not that it would make a difference. Because, both PCB's utilize ONE PCI-E slot
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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/biased-sample.html
Why don't you try asking a question that is not a logical fallacy, and that is actually relevent to the discussion? The number of PCI-E slots it uses on the motherboard is irrelevent, as one of those graphics cards functions as an expansion board as I have said for the nth time. :roll:
Two cards, two PCI-E slots as I have demonstrated with photographic evidence. Get over it already.
I just figured that I had to ask the question that you don't dare answer. I believe any fallacy would lie there. Since you cannot bring yourself to answer a direct question, I can only assume you have an agenda. Because answering said question correctly, would deflate your entire ensemble of posts, I'm afraid. At any rate, nice try.
Sorry, was a typo. I typed eight instead of four. A quad-SLi system uses four PCI-E slots, two on the motherboard and two on the expansion board in a 7950GX2 couplet.
Now I need white papers, do I? So when photographic evidence of a second PCI-E connector and the PCI-E slot it plugs into the second board with is not enough for a fanboy, I need white papers? :roll:
I'm sorry, but it is you with the agenda here and I have exposed your red-herring fallacy. I would love you to deny it right now, since it's already posted publicly for all to see.
You are avoiding the issue of one of those boards being an expansion board by bringing up the irrelevent question "how many PCI-E slots on the motherboard does it use?" Your aim is to divert attention from the second PCI-E slot on the expansion board, have me answer the question the way you want me to, and then claim victory while leaving the second PCI-E slot unaddressed.
Therefore I say again; Instead of using a red-herring fallacy, why don't you just accept my answer of "the 7950GX2 uses two PCI-E slots, one being the method by which one of the cards is an expansion card"?
I already know that you won't address this though, you already dismissed photographic evidence of the reference 7950GX2 and demanded I use white papers instead. :roll: It's going to take one large hammer to break through this wall of ignorance.
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