So Berkeley types want to explain this away?

[jonks]

It is on par with Kansas requiring "intelligent design" education. Stupid people are everywhere. They come from both ends of the politcal spectrum.

get out

 

[BoberFett]

The party of death has created a race to the bottom, and the bottom is on its way.

So you're proud to be one of the runners?

 

[werepossum]

The redistribution of knowledge has proved to be difficult, thankless work. The redistribution of ignorance seems much more promising.

 

[BoberFett]

I guess they could try the Republican way, where you defund the schools, use lower student performance as a justification to segregate the students, and lynch anyone that gets upset about it.

Leave it to CitizenLame to think his way of destroying education is superior to the Republican way of doing it.

 

[shiner]

I guess they could try the Republican way, where you defund the schools, use lower student performance as a justification to segregate the students, and lynch anyone that gets upset about it.

I don't know about where you are, but here the schools are funded quite well. In fact their funding is higher than it has ever been on a per student basis.

What's the problem?

Well for starters it is the way kids are being taught now, instead of their being a focus on hard learning the focus is too often on making sure nobody's feelings get hurt. I have several friends who are teachers and all of them complain about the touchy feely garbage they have to deal with.

Secondly a lot of that school funding is being eaten up by administrative costs. I can give you a local example that I'm sure plays out elsewhere in the country.....

The district I went to school in has a high school (10th -12th grade), 4 junior highs (8th & 9th grades), 2 middle schools (6th & 7th grades) 6 elementary schools (2nd - 5th grades) and 1 very large "early education center" (kindergarten & 1st grades)

Now when I was in school it was arranged a bit differently but essentially all the schools existed, just the grades they served has been rearranged. Back then there was a principal for each school and a superintendent for the district. Now each school as a principal and multiple vice principals. A friend who is a teach there told me the high school alone has 4 vice principals as well as several directors....athletic director(there are actually 2), vocational education director, etc, etc....and the high school even has a "Green Czar" who is in charge of making sure they are recycling everything that can be and that their energy usage stays as low as possible.

It is easy to see that a lot of administrative overhead has been created in this scenario. Now...on top of all of that I have also been told that when you go to the district offices they are quite plush and full of very expensive furniture and the latest and greatest in computers. Meanwhile back at the schools the teachers are still using desks that were there, and old, when I was in school. If the classrooms have computers they are mostly older models with 15" or 17" CRT's if they are lucky.

Now, tell me....wouldn't all that money being spent on administrators, fancy furniture and nice fast computers with 24" LCD's in the administrative offices be better spent on teach salaries and making sure the classrooms had the best technology? Seems like a simple yes, but that answer seems to escape that school district and from what I've heard many many others across the country.

Will fixing that fix everything? No, but they are examples of what is wrong with the public school system and why my kids go to a private school.

 

[Red Dawn]

It is on par with Kansas requiring "intelligent design" education. Stupid people are everywhere. They come from both ends of the politcal spectrum.

Except Bezerkely is just one city, Kansas is a whole state of stupid.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I'm still trying to figure out what a "Berkeley type" is. Is it some smelly Hippie in a tie died tshirt?

Hitting a little too close to home for you?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Does this make Democrats anti-science?

 

[Patranus]

LOL
I love it.
Ensuring I have a job the rest of my life.
THank you Berkeley.

 

[Red Dawn]

Does this make Democrats anti-science?

Democrats, what makes you think they're Democrats? Odds are they are Marxists, this being Bezerkely. Even San Franciscans think they're looney.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Democrats, what makes you think they're Democrats? Odds are they are Marxists, this being Bezerkely. Even San Franciscans think they're looney.

Ok, let me rephrase.. 'Obama Democrats'..

 

[Zebo]

LOL
I love it.
Ensuring I have a job the rest of my life.
THank you Berkeley.

Are you a prison guard?

 

[shiner]

Are you a prison guard?

I was thinking "Drool Removal Technician"

 

[marincounty]

Berkeley High School is actually a great inner city high school, and has a problem because people in surrounding shithole cities, like Richmond and Oakland, try and send their kids there by pretending they live with Grandma or an uncle in Berkeley. Instead of ending science classes they need to remove the bad actors from outside Berkeley.

 

[JEDIYoda]

redistribution of knowledge... WOW that a new! inspired by Obama's redistribution of wealth - are we?
I have heard a lot about students being rewarded for being bright and hard working - this will be a first where...
I would run away from an ISD and even the city which comes up with such a brilliant idea and never look back.

if you actually knew what you were talking about it would be a very scary day...as it is your comments are comical and befitting someone who is in kindergarten!!

 

[Blackjack200]

So I guess this was a hit and run by the OP. I'm disappointed as I wanted to know what a Berkeley type is

 

[BoberFett]

Berkeley High School is actually a great inner city high school, and has a problem because people in surrounding shithole cities, like Richmond and Oakland, try and send their kids there by pretending they live with Grandma or an uncle in Berkeley. Instead of ending science classes they need to remove the bad actors from outside Berkeley.

Oh, so you're trying to disenfranchise the poor? You want to prevent the less privileged from getting an education? Don't want the children riff-raff mingling with your precious snowflakes?

Yeah, you're a California liberal alright.

 

[marincounty]

Oh, so you're trying to disenfranchise the poor? You want to prevent the less privileged from getting an education? Don't want the children riff-raff mingling with your precious snowflakes?

Yeah, you're a California liberal alright.

Are you a freaking moron? You have to be a resident of a city to send your children to school there. People from out of the city are sending their kids there because IT IS A BETTER SCHOOL.

Are all conservatives idiots?

 

[marincounty]

I never lived in Berekely which is unlike any other city in CA besides Santa Cruz and Santa Cruz has beaches and barely clothed women so at least there is a reason to visit it. Berekely is a shithole,without it's great University it wouldn't even be noticed.

Berkeley is awesome. The finest city in the east bay. Here's another reason to live in Berkeley.

Living in Berkeley means longer life study finds
http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-05-...y-residents-life-expectancy-african-americans
All those organic bean sprouts and hikes in Tilden Park have paid off. According to a Berkeley public health study released today Berkeley residents have longer healthier lives than almost anyone else in the Bay Area.

The average life expectancy for Berkeley residents is 83 five years longer than the national average and four years longer than their fellow Alameda County residents. Berkeleyans live about three years longer than San Franciscans and four years longer than Californians in general

 

[Patranus]

Berkeley is awesome. The finest city in the east bay. Here's another reason to live in Berkeley.

Living in Berkeley means longer life study finds
http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-05-...y-residents-life-expectancy-african-americans
All those organic bean sprouts and hikes in Tilden Park have paid off. According to a Berkeley public health study released today Berkeley residents have longer healthier lives than almost anyone else in the Bay Area.

The average life expectancy for Berkeley residents is 83 five years longer than the national average and four years longer than their fellow Alameda County residents. Berkeleyans live about three years longer than San Franciscans and four years longer than Californians in general

So the cities own study is self promoting. No shit sherlock.

 

[Zebo]

More proof vouchers are needed. Send idiots to remedial schools and smart to AP schools. There is no one size fits all with people we all learn different and at different rates a voucher system would allow for this.

 

[Patranus]

More proof vouchers are needed. Send idiots to remedial schools and smart to AP schools. There is no one size fits all with people we all learn different and at different rates a voucher system would allow for this.

Ya but that would be the 'free market' solution and we wouldn't want that.
Another example of the Democrats commitment to "choice & competition"

 

[palehorse]

More proof vouchers are needed. Send idiots to remedial schools and smart to AP schools. There is no one size fits all with people we all learn different and at different rates a voucher system would allow for this.

I support a fair voucher system.

 

[werepossum]

Berkeley is awesome. The finest city in the east bay. Here's another reason to live in Berkeley.

Living in Berkeley means longer life study finds
http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-05-...y-residents-life-expectancy-african-americans
All those organic bean sprouts and hikes in Tilden Park have paid off. According to a Berkeley public health study released today Berkeley residents have longer healthier lives than almost anyone else in the Bay Area.

The average life expectancy for Berkeley residents is 83 five years longer than the national average and four years longer than their fellow Alameda County residents. Berkeleyans live about three years longer than San Franciscans and four years longer than Californians in general

Meh, they probably just think they are older because they never learned to count that high.

 

[blackangst1]

So I guess this was a hit and run by the OP. I'm disappointed as I wanted to know what a Berkeley type is

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=berkeley