Shrug, you gotta protest some way. I say good for him and it is legal US currency. Personally I think the penny should be taken out of circulation because it's freaking useless.
Shrug, you gotta protest some way. I say good for him and it is legal US currency. Personally I think the penny should be taken out of circulation because it's freaking useless.
Of course it is not to mention they should had refused it as it was not a valid amount unless it was precounted.
Then again it was at the dmv so screw them anyways.
They can't refuse it by law.
IronWing
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Yeah, the issue is that the tax due is a debt so cash can't be rejected as payment. Had the guy tried buying a map from DMV with pennies, they could reject cash as payment because it isn't a debt.
So he wasted tax dollars and delayed other taxpayers just to be an ass.
OutHouse
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was not aware the the state of virginia made money.
(pretty sure the state has no control over what money the feds make)
OutHouse
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sure they can. the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation is check only, and most toll roads now are ez pass and up until last year the IRS had a no cash policy. AND if you pay the IRS by cash you can only pay 1000 a day and they tack on a $3.99 fee.
nakedfrog
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Maybe the guys that might be answering the phone are counting massive piles of coins that a total fuckwit brought in?I applaud him for making his point. The problem with these government entities whose sole purpose for existing is to serve the public is that they have forgotten they serve the public and seem to think the public serves them. That is wrong. When they go out of their way to make contacting them difficult or impossible which they certainly did in this case then they are intentionally violating the public trust. They have a responsibility to be accessible and responsive to the public that they are here to serve.
Thats a fair point!
Ryland
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He originally received the coins in rolls and paid people $10/hour to remove them from the rolls.
Humpy
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ponyo
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He paid the vehicle sales tax on the new Chevrolet Silverado and a new Cadillac Escalade he bought. He's required by law to pay within 30 days of purchase. This is not income tax. And all this butthurt started with him trying to pay the sales tax on the new Chevrolet Corvette he bought for his 15 year old son who had learner's permit.
nakedfrog
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Sales tax must be way less there too, if he only has to pay $3k to register his son's new Corvette and some other new car.
And he's probably raising that kid to be a little prick as well.
http://www.craftvinyl.com/page165
And he's probably raising that kid to be a little prick as well.
http://www.craftvinyl.com/page165
zinfamous
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Ah OK. I did notice DMV, car something something, but was like fuck it: I'm gonna post my comment anyway! NOW who's the arsehole?
Well it was worth it for him to spend a not insignificant amount of time and money in order to make his point so I still say good for him.
nakedfrog
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ME! ME! ME!Ah OK. I did notice DMV, car something something, but was like fuck it: I'm gonna post my comment anyway! NOW who's the arsehole?
But he's also still an arsehole.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5103
It even says so in the article, trust me if they could have refused them they damn sure would have and then had a hell of a laugh at the guy having to haul all those pennies back home and figure out what to do with them.
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OutHouse
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and i am pointing out that state and federal agencies do have or had no cash rules. the IRS charging a fee for cash payments is over the top. THEY ARE THE FEDS
GagHalfrunt
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and i am pointing out that state and federal agencies do have or had no cash rules. the IRS charging a fee for cash payments is over the top. THEY ARE THE FEDS
No, you're pointing out that you do not understand the difference between a purchase and a legal debt. Pennsylvania DOT can turn down cash because renewing a drivers license, paying a toll, buying an EZ Pass or registering a car is not a legal debt, it's an discretionary purchase. The Pennsylvania Tax Collectors office can't turn down cash because tax debts are non-discretionary, you have to pay and they have to accept legal tender.
I'd count until closing time, then provide a receipt for the amount I had verified, explain that the office is now closed and that he'll have to return tomorrow to complete the rest of his payment.
shortylickens
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Murloc
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it's legal tender so you suck it up and accept it, especially if you're an employee of the state, even if this guy's beef with the DMV is total bs.
If the government or anyone isn't fine with this, promote legislation to eliminate coins under a certain value. Supermarkets already have to do rounding anyway so it's not a problem implementing this.
If the government or anyone isn't fine with this, promote legislation to eliminate coins under a certain value. Supermarkets already have to do rounding anyway so it's not a problem implementing this.
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