So, apparently I am a stupid ****** ****** because the iPhone 4S was a dud.

[D1gger]

I kind of understand that WP7 hasn't had wide adoption in the US because of the whole 'people only buy phones subsidized by a carrier' ecosystem you have there (I am aware not a lot of carriers offer much in the way of choice with WP7).

What I can't quite understand is why the phones didn't take off in the rest of the world where people mostly buy no-contract unlocked phones. I bought a WP7 phone (HTC Mozart 7, 8GB storage, 8MP camera, 800x480 screen) when the competing Androids (from LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC) were offering 480x320 screens, typically with 2GB memory and a 2GB microSD card thrown in to boost it up to 4GB, usually on a 800MHz CPU. Then the HD7 fell down to the same price (5MP camera but 16GB storage, 4.3" screen instead of 3.7") and yet, no takers.

It plain doesn't make sense to me.

I've been surprised by the lack of success for WP7 as well. I know in North America the carriers and the retail stores don't advertise or sell WP7 very well. When I told my phone supplier I wanted the first WP7 phone available in Canada, he looked at me like I was crazy. But after a year, I still love this phone. (HTC Surround).

I believe WP7 will gain more market share with the release of Windows 8, and also with the release of some better hardware from Nokia.

 

[CRXican]

I still have an old LG flip phone. I really need to get with it and pick something new.

 

[Lifted]

Your thought for Apple is so real? I want join your mail list. How I can do it!

 

[jhansman]

Fuck iPhones. More nipples!

 

[Maximilian]

Pfft wouldn't even be my friend if you had an iphone

 

[Fritzo]

I've been surprised by the lack of success for WP7 as well. I know in North America the carriers and the retail stores don't advertise or sell WP7 very well. When I told my phone supplier I wanted the first WP7 phone available in Canada, he looked at me like I was crazy. But after a year, I still love this phone. (HTC Surround).

I believe WP7 will gain more market share with the release of Windows 8, and also with the release of some better hardware from Nokia.

They were too late to the game, plain and simple. It's a great OS, but Android took the "Powerful and Cheap" category, Apple has the "Trendy and Expensive" category. Microsoft hasn't defined who they're going after.

Like I said, I think Windows 8 will make people more accepting of Windows phones.

 

[amdhunter]

What video player app do you use that can play those unconverted?

AVPlayerHD - I think it's 3 dollars.

 

[amdhunter]

Won't that make it north of $500 then? That's what doesn't make sense.

But hey, it's your money.. if it makes you happy.

I don't pay for service which is a huge savings. I think it's going to be a little bit more since I want a 32GB.

 

[Todd33]

Dude, just go with WP7. It's the future

It's the future next dead MS line. Their market share is actually falling.


I could never buy an Apple product. I'm glad the iPhone 4S is getting beat up in the news, they are no longer the only game in town and they can't own a market based solely on marketing and loyal zombie fans. Time to step up your game apple.

 

[Aikouka]

People were expecting a 4.3" screen, thinner case, 4G, and a longer battery life. What they got is a two year old phone with an updated processor that matches what other standard phones have today. Hence the drop in Apple stock yesterday. Apple releases innovations, and this seemed to be a lot of hoopla over a minor update. They gave the image of "we're no longer on top, we're struggling for ideas."

That's kind of funny though, because the iPhone 4 has the exact same GPU as the iPhone 3GS. Normally, you would think this isn't a huge problem since Apple does everything the same, but the iPhone 4 has 4x the number of pixels!

Yet, no one complained about that because of the Retina display? I considered upgrading my 3GS ahead of time, but when I visited the Apple store, I didn't really see that much of a difference. Maybe I'm just "visually retarded."

But anyway... the point is, I think this shows that people clamor over Apple products when they have fancy new buzzwords to throw around. Things like "retina display" or "4G" work well, because you can throw around the term as something fancy without actually knowing what the hell you're talking about.

I don't pay for service which is a huge savings. I think it's going to be a little bit more since I want a 32GB.

It'll also be considerably cheaper if you sell your old phone, which can probably recoup about 1/2 of the cost or more.

AVPlayerHD - I think it's 3 dollars.

There are actually a few players that work like that, but there's one huge problem with them (at least the last time I looked). The only way you can add videos is by adding them in the App section of your device. That's not a huge deal right? The problem is that whenever you create a back-up, iTunes backs up all app data. If you put 20GB of video files in that app's data, it will create a 20GB+ backup.

 

[Broheim]

OP, buy the 4S if you want it and then tell your friends they should try sex with women and stop being losers who get worked up over cellphones.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Reading the android fan-boys going apeshit on the gizmodo/engadget comments section is nauseating. It reminds me of the 3dfx vs Nvidia vs AMD arguments back in the day, with the difference being that apple users don't really care enough to argue. Apple didn't invent the smart phone. They transformed the smart phones of yesterday from geeky pocket computers to mainstream consumer devices by focusing on the experience. It just chaps the ass of some Android users that many iphone users don't care how much ram, or how fast the processor in their smartphone is. It just works, and thats good enough for most people, and if you dont agree with that approach, take a look at Apple's stock price and try to argue it's misguided.

Every feature apple releases it's always "OMG WTF @#$@#$ ANDROID ALREADY DOES THAT!!!!!". We know dumb asses, apple just took it and made it better. I know the response to that would be "OMG WTF RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE #$#$ WHAT ABOUT NOTIFICATIONS, THEY COPIED THAT!!!!!". I imagine apple's response would be "Yeah, SO? We thought it was good enough to copy" They'll wrap a pretty bow around it, put it in a commercial, and make a billion more dollars off it.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Yet, no one complained about that because of the Retina display? I considered upgrading my 3GS ahead of time, but when I visited the Apple store, I didn't really see that much of a difference. Maybe I'm just "visually retarded." .

I think even an Android fan boy would have to agree that you are indeed visually retarded to not see the difference

 

[Dumac]

If Android users are the ones that have hurting bottoms, who's really the f-gg-ts here?

Last time I said something like that (by complete accident actually), I got in trouble with the mods.

 

[IronWing]

I wish I had postponed parenthood. I could have taken the kids' pics with my iPhone 4S. What a waste of a family.

 

[Aikouka]

I think even an Android fan boy would have to agree that you are indeed visually retarded to not see the difference

You don't have to be so blunt about it. :'(



I think it would make it more clear if I said I can see more clarity in things like the icons, but I just didn't think it was a very big deal. It's not like my 3GS is terribly pixelated.

 

[slayer202]

that's not why you're stupid

(I'm guessing someone else beat me to that, but I'm not reading this thread)

 

[SP33Demon]

It's the future next dead MS line. Their market share is actually falling.


I could never buy an Apple product. I'm glad the iPhone 4S is getting beat up in the news, they are no longer the only game in town and they can't own a market based solely on marketing and loyal zombie fans. Time to step up your game apple.

Yep, further proof that everyone smart should open a business and exploit the sheeple with shiny things. For every smart tech user, there are 3 sheeple who will buy the prettiest gadget regardless of functional ability. Exploitation never worked so well.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Android fanboys are probably the worst next to the brainless Sheeple.

But for most people who just gawk at Apple products, they're mostly uninformed.


The iPhone 4S is like the Nexus S.... both are missing something...

 

[William Gaatjes]

Android fanboys are annoying.

Fanboys are annoying in general.

 

[mb]

I don't pay for service which is a huge savings. I think it's going to be a little bit more since I want a 32GB.

Go for it then. You'll probably be able to still sell it for a decent price when iphone 5 does come out.

 

[IronWing]

Dude, just go with WP7. It's the future

There's a Word Perfect 7? Cool, I never liked Word.

 

[02ranger]

I have an android phone. I had an iPhone 3g. Both are nice. I personally like android and don't see myself ever going back to ios.

That being said, I honestly couldn't give 2 shits what phone anybody has beyond the "what kind of phone is that?" conversations. If you like the iPhone 4s, more power to you. Tell your friends to get over it. The only thing more annoying than internet phone fanboys, in either camp, are real-life phone fanboys.

 

[dwell]

Android == lemon party (SFW)

 

[Sephire]

I have both Android and iPhone.

I prefer the iOS by far.