So, apparently I am a stupid ****** ****** because the iPhone 4S was a dud.

[purbeast0]

Junior high can be so cruel

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2196198

then looks like we have a forum full of junior high kids!

 

[theprodigalrebel]

The opposite happened with me. I know a few people IRL who love everything Apple and are super annoying with their condescending "Oh, you bought a WP7 phone? Why?" act while secretly thinking that you are just too cheap to be able to afford an iPhone. I somewhat enjoy trolling them but honestly, I just don't think smartphone-choice warrants a flamewar. (On the Internet or IRL)

Now the iPhone 4S has been announced and I honestly think it's a decent upgrade within reasonable expectations yet people (including the Apple fans) are upset it's a 'minor' upgrade.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Siri is so far ahead of anything google has that its ridiculous.

it seems nice, but let's remember none of the heavyweights invent a damn thing. apple bought the inventor for $200 million, just like ms bought the kinect, and so forth. and the only reason they're buying these outfits is because they can't steal like they used to.

 

[amdhunter]

This is probably what really happened:

1. Friends jokingly call Amdhunter a stupid lovely human.
2. Amd thinks to himself "sweet! now I got something to post about on ATOT"
3. Amdhunter makes this thread pretending he was seriously butthurt by his friends calling him a (refer to 1.)

No - we actually got into a heated argument about it lol.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

You might not be far off there. I think it will take off once Win8 comes out.

I kind of understand that WP7 hasn't had wide adoption in the US because of the whole 'people only buy phones subsidized by a carrier' ecosystem you have there (I am aware not a lot of carriers offer much in the way of choice with WP7).

What I can't quite understand is why the phones didn't take off in the rest of the world where people mostly buy no-contract unlocked phones. I bought a WP7 phone (HTC Mozart 7, 8GB storage, 8MP camera, 800x480 screen) when the competing Androids (from LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC) were offering 480x320 screens, typically with 2GB memory and a 2GB microSD card thrown in to boost it up to 4GB, usually on a 800MHz CPU. Then the HD7 fell down to the same price (5MP camera but 16GB storage, 4.3" screen instead of 3.7") and yet, no takers.

It plain doesn't make sense to me.

 

[LookBehindYou]

People were expecting a 4.3" screen, thinner case, 4G, and a longer battery life. What they got is a two year old phone with an updated processor that matches what other standard phones have today. Hence the drop in Apple stock yesterday. Apple releases innovations, and this seemed to be a lot of hoopla over a minor update. They gave the image of "we're no longer on top, we're struggling for ideas."

The new iOS 5 didn't impress either: it's main hallmark Suri (voice command) is viewed in the same light as Facetime...cool to show off, but nobody really uses it.

The new iPhone is being viewed as a stopgap to keep relevant among competitors with more advanced products. I was waiting to see what they released because I want to buy an iPhone for my daughter for Christmas. I'll probably just get her an upgraded older model for $99.

We got the longer battery life, I dont know who was actually expecting a bigger screen or 4g. People may have been hoping for one, but shit, we can hope for anything.

To say it is an upgraded 2 year old phone is kind of crazy, it's essentially all new internals from the cpu to the camera. If you're not changing the screen size, why do change the screen, it's the best available.

Siri, IF it works like they say, could be awesome. I can actually picture myself using it quite a bit while driving.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

I kind of understand that WP7 hasn't had wide adoption in the US because of the whole 'people only buy phones subsidized by a carrier' ecosystem you have there (I am aware not a lot of carriers offer much in the way of choice with WP7).

What I can't quite understand is why the phones didn't take off in the rest of the world where people mostly buy no-contract unlocked phones. I bought a WP7 phone (HTC Mozart 7, 8GB storage, 8MP camera, 800x480 screen) when the competing Androids (from LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC) were offering 480x320 screens, typically with 2GB memory and a 2GB microSD card thrown in to boost it up to 4GB, usually on a 800MHz CPU. Then the HD7 fell down to the same price (5MP camera but 16GB storage, 4.3" screen instead of 3.7") and yet, no takers.

It plain doesn't make sense to me.

given their shitty track record in gadgets, i'm surprised windows phones are as popular as they are. i ain't buying no brown zune.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

To say it is an upgraded 2 year old phone is kind of crazy, it's essentially all new internals from the cpu to the camera. If you're not changing the screen size, why do change the screen, it's the best available.

when most people look at it, what do they see? the same iphone as before.

 

[Sluggo]

I am also heavily invested in apps.

I believe wasted, as opposed to invested, may have been a more appropriate word.

 

[bignateyk]

Siri sounds retarded. I don't want to walk around talking to my phone like an idiot. I can't imagine being on a bus or something with 50 people all giving voice commands to their phones to do everything instead of typing.

 

[fatpat268]

I'll probably buy the Iphone 4S myself. It'll be my first smartphone actually... so I don't give a fuck what others think.

But the main reason why I want an iphone is simply because I already have a ton of apps from when I had an ipod touch, and to me, it's the apps that seperate apple's ios devices from android/wp7/webos.

 

[Josh]

Siri sounds retarded. I don't want to walk around talking to my phone like an idiot. I can't imagine being on a bus or something with 50 people all giving voice commands to their phones to do everything instead of typing.

But for a lot of us who drive more frequently than taking the bus or jog around, or walk around a lot and think of things we don't want to forget, etc ...it could prove useful.

 

[Wyndru]

I really want the extra horsepower to play non-converted MKV videos and have a better overall experience on my phone.

HD I hope, only the best 1080P for that little screen.

 

[bignateyk]

But for a lot of us who drive more frequently than taking the bus or jog around, or walk around a lot and think of things we don't want to forget, etc ...it could prove useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPbc3GqCTvQ

 

[Krazy4Real]

Enjoy your iphone. I'll enjoy my android phone.

 

[AMDZen]

it seems nice, but let's remember none of the heavyweights invent a damn thing. apple bought the inventor for $200 million, just like ms bought the kinect, and so forth. and the only reason they're buying these outfits is because they can't steal like they used to.

Wait, you mean how Palm basically invented the smart phone? And how Apple basically invented one that didn't suck? Every android is an iPhone clone, whether they like to admit it or not. That isn't to say they don't do some things better, because they do.

 

[amdhunter]

I believe wasted, as opposed to invested, may have been a more appropriate word.

Wasted how? I use the apps I bought regularly. I like having regular updates to my items also.

 

[abaez]

Siri is so far ahead of anything google has that its ridiculous.

Wow, that is amazing. Have you used it or are you basing your opinion off of a 5 minute demo?

 

[amdhunter]

HD I hope, only the best 1080P for that little screen.

I watch a lot of anime, and yeah they are usually 720p. I've put 1080p vids on my iPad 2, but mostly just to show off that it can do it (mostly.)

 

[BudAshes]

Your "friends" are sad pathetic people.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Android fanboys are annoying.

One of the few times im ever going to agree with you

 

[AstroManLuca]

Fanboys are annoying.

Fixed.

 

[KGB]

Mr. Chucker,

All your 'friends' couldn't give a rat's ass what kind of cell phone you use... I know, I talked to him.
However, his description of you is quite accurate.

 

[hellfire88]

I watch a lot of anime, and yeah they are usually 720p. I've put 1080p vids on my iPad 2, but mostly just to show off that it can do it (mostly.)

What video player app do you use that can play those unconverted?

 

[Capt Caveman]

I kind of understand that WP7 hasn't had wide adoption in the US because of the whole 'people only buy phones subsidized by a carrier' ecosystem you have there (I am aware not a lot of carriers offer much in the way of choice with WP7).

What I can't quite understand is why the phones didn't take off in the rest of the world where people mostly buy no-contract unlocked phones. I bought a WP7 phone (HTC Mozart 7, 8GB storage, 8MP camera, 800x480 screen) when the competing Androids (from LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC) were offering 480x320 screens, typically with 2GB memory and a 2GB microSD card thrown in to boost it up to 4GB, usually on a 800MHz CPU. Then the HD7 fell down to the same price (5MP camera but 16GB storage, 4.3" screen instead of 3.7") and yet, no takers.

It plain doesn't make sense to me.

Marketing/Advertising. Has there even been an ad for WP7 or WP7 phone?