So about that climate "Pause"......

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Paratus

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Paratus, while all the other pieces are important and compelling for selling the narrative, just start with GISS. Surface temps stand without contest. If opponents raise the specter of Satellite you shoot them down with the fact that they measure different things and we live on the surface, not the upper atmosphere.

GISS is not being scientifically challenged is it? No. So it stands as is. That massive, continuing, surge of warmer temps is the record we live by. End of story. If they want to raise their concerns to a scientific level and attempt to take down GISS then be our guest... but until then all they're got is slinging mud.

Gentlemen, if you cannot depose GISS then you've got nothing.

I get what you are saying but in this case the question wasn't whether the Earth is warming but do we understand why it's warming to be able to predict what it will do.

We need to be honest and realize people dont care about whats going to happen in 50-100 years. They wont be alive. They care about themselves and what they got now.

Well some do care right now. If you have or intend to buy property near the coast then it should concern you.

Besides I could conceivably still be around in 40-50 years and my kids most likely will be. So it concerns me.
 
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yeah but a lot of the people who are arguing with you are old fucks who wont last 20 more years. They dont give a shit.

I own in Los Angeles so yeah coastal. I care.
 

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Lifer
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yeah but a lot of the people who are arguing with you are old fucks who wont last 20 more years. They dont give a shit.

I own in Los Angeles so yeah coastal. I care.

I'm near the gulf coast. Already had to rebuild half my house after a hurricane. So I care too.
 

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They say something like 50% of the population of America live within 50 miles of the sea.

-John
 

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No thank you inland please.

Cities need room to sprawl otherwise they become dysfunctional.